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Mind your tongue Mr. Prime Minister

Bangladesh :rofl: the same Bangladesh who have fougt deadly civil war to get away from yourself?

Sri Lanka is not ur friend that so called friendship ko jumma jumma do din nahi huye hain. Sri Lanka is a friend of India for sure.

Now, talk about Iran:

'Some Pak officials aiding terrorists'

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Iranian Deputy Interior Minister Ali Abdollahi

Pakistan blamed for attack on Revolutionary Guards - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Iran blames Pakistan for attack - Middle East - Al Jazeera English





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Let's talk about Afghanistan too:




Afghans blame Pakistan over Kabul bombing - Press & Journal

Blame Pakistan for the Continuing Afghan Conflict - NYTimes.com

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Afghan papers blame Pakistan


Now, i request you to leave the thread for the topic = Sri Lankan PM's silly mistake.

Iran also thanks us for helping catch rigi??? komeini holds prayers for us? we have signed a multi billion $ oil deal... etc

While they openly support Kashmiri freedom struggle..... n u evrn backed off frm ipi deal on US pressure....We know how much iranians,lankans,bangladeshis etc like u on PDF aswell.


Abt afghanistan,.... they blame everybdy... us,uk.eu.nato etc... n thn praise them on occasions.
 
is their any nation left in the region with whom you indians have friendly relations left???feel sorry for you guys....no future...China in the north,Pakistan in the west,Lankans in the south ,300 plus insurgencies within coupled with bengali youth high on phensedyl :woot: in the east :victory:


http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...old-curb-phensedyl-smuggling.html#post1566362

India has only adversarial equation with China and Pakistan. That makes it two.

One must not take 'Rambling Mouth' (dodwanawa), as he is called at home, very seriously to club Sri Lanka as country with animus against India.

You will notice that it is a Singhalese Newspaper which has the story and headlined - Mind Your Tongue, Mr Prime Minster!

If Sri Lanka was anti Indian, then would such a news report come out of Sri Lanka?
 
Now as far as the medicine phensedky, the smugglers smuggle it, apart from many other things, including cattle.

And a whole lot of chaps enter as illegals and it cannot be curbed!

Even the mighty US cannot stop smuggling along its border with Mexico.

So, your point is?
 
what makes you think that way? 'cause china has good relation with myanmar & for that reason india can't have one??

:coffee: It has nothing to do with China.
1# Myanmar and India have a history of grievances.
2# Myanmar and India has border dispute.
3# China fleet stationed in Myanmar Bassein and Sittwe. Myanmar and China have a covenant.
4# Each year, India andaman exercises held against Myanmar.
5# Indian People's Party and the Indian National Congress is hostile to Myanmar.

Do you feel that good diplomatic relations between Myanmar and India? What makes you think that way?
 
:coffee: It has nothing to do with China.
1# Myanmar and India have a history of grievances.
2# Myanmar and India has border dispute.
3# China fleet stationed in Myanmar Bassein and Sittwe. Myanmar and China have a covenant.
4# Each year, India andaman exercises held against Myanmar.
5# Indian People's Party and the Indian National Congress is hostile to Myanmar.

You say its nothing to do with china, then in the same breath you say chinese fleet stationed in myanmar.

Then you say india holds andman exercises against myanmar :)

Buddy, your illogical rants are making less and less sense.
 
:coffee: It has nothing to do with China.
1# Myanmar and India have a history of grievances.
2# Myanmar and India has border dispute.
3# China fleet stationed in Myanmar Bassein and Sittwe. Myanmar and China have a covenant.
4# Each year, India andaman exercises held against Myanmar.
5# Indian People's Party and the Indian National Congress is hostile to Myanmar.

grievances between two countries doesn't mean that you can't have a good diplomatic tie. india had or has grievances against quite a few countires including US, Uk, aus, nepa etc.. difference in openion & diplomacy goes side by side! relationship between india & Mynamar improved considerably since 93 & now india is one of the largest market for burmese products. india's engagement with myanmar regime has helped them ease international isolation & lesson their reliance on china.
myanmar itself knows that india's andaman excersise is not against them, but against the growing chinese influence in the area. india & myanmar are the leading members of BIMSTEC & the mekong ganga corporation along with rest of the regional countries, helping india develop its influence & ties with rest of the south east asian countries. all in all things are not that bad between india & burma!!
 
grievances between two countries doesn't mean that you can't have a good diplomatic tie. india had or has grievances against quite a few countires including US, Uk, aus, nepa etc.. difference in openion & diplomacy goes side by side! relationship between india & Mynamar improved considerably since 93 & now india is one of the largest market for burmese products. india's engagement with myanmar regime has helped them ease international isolation & lesson their reliance on china.
myanmar itself knows that india's andaman excersise is not against them, but against the growing chinese influence in the area. india & myanmar are the leading members of BIMSTEC & the mekong ganga corporation along with rest of the regional countries, helping india develop its influence & ties with rest of the south east asian countries. all in all things are not that bad between india & burma!!

:coffee: Indians helped the British invasion of Burma. 1942, British troops to leave Burma, All Indian immigrants have been killed in Myanmar.
Myanmar believes that Assam&Mizoram&Manipur&Nagaland is the territory of Myanmar. Zen-ethic and Wa-ethnic people of India is the Myanmar people, and Myanmar support their independence movement.
 
You say its nothing to do with china, then in the same breath you say chinese fleet stationed in myanmar.

Then you say india holds andman exercises against myanmar :)

Buddy, your illogical rants are making less and less sense.

:coffee: China-merchant-ship need to go through the Bay of Bengal, China's fleet to protect trade routes, not directed against India govt. But the Indian govt to respond it by exercises each year. So its nothing to do with china, It is the liability of Indian govt.
 
:coffee: It has nothing to do with China.
1# Myanmar and India have a history of grievances.
2# Myanmar and India has border dispute.
3# China fleet stationed in Myanmar Bassein and Sittwe. Myanmar and China have a covenant.
4# Each year, India andaman exercises held against Myanmar.
5# Indian People's Party and the Indian National Congress is hostile to Myanmar.

Do you feel that good diplomatic relations between Myanmar and India? What makes you think that way?

Strategically, Myanmar has great importance to both India and China. While India has pushed for democracy, China has been at ease to operate without qualms with the military regime because China is accustomed to such equations, being a totalitarian regime.

China also gives low-interest loans, grants, development projects, technical assistance etc and for a nation that is under sanctions, it is a manna Myanmar. Myanmar’s questionable human rights record does not irk China, being birds of the same feather.

When it became obvious that the Myanmar military will not relinquish power even thought Aung San Suu Kyi winning the election, India took a pragmatic view since insurgency and narcotics smuggling were assuming alarming proportions in the states bordering Myanmar. Contact was established and a flurry of agreements were signed to deal with cross-border terrorism and narcotics smuggling and to promote trade and economic development along the Indo-Myanmar border.

The most pragmatic Narashima Rao, the then PM of India realized that giving too much weight to human rights and democracy in Myanmar over strategic considerations may not be in its long term interests. He moved to bring change not by isolating Myanmar and instead by engaging and persuading Myanmar. This invited criticism from the ‘democracy or nothing’ groups in India, apart from the international criticism.
India’s interest was in Energy which is in abundance with Myanmar, as also to curb the use of Myanmar as a sanctuary by the China promoted insurgency, in the NE.

It was decided, after consultations, the construction and operation of a multi-modal transit and transport facility on the Kaladan River, on intelligence exchange to combat transitional crime including terrorism, and an agreement on avoidance of double taxation and prevention of fiscal evasion.

Myanmar and India had reached four more economic cooperation agreements, during the visit of Minister of State for Commerce and Power in 2008. These agreements include bilateral investment promotion, a USD 20-million credit line between the Exim Bank of India and the Myanmar Foreign Trade Bank (MFTB) for the establishment of a manufacturing facility, another 64-million-dollar credit line for three 230 KV transmission lines; and for establishing banking arrangement between the Myanmar Investment and Trade Bank and the United Bank of India.

The economic transactions between the two governments, have been in areas like agriculture, telecommunications, aviation and gas exploration. Myanmar has shown interest in pharmaceuticals, cement, fertilizer, steel, IT and food processing. Indian firms seem reluctant to invest, for fear of a repetition of the earlier nationalization drive.

Myanmar-compiled figures show that India's contracted investments in Myanmar reached USD 219.57 million as of January 2008, of which USD 137 million was in the oil and gas sector. India has given USD 100 million credit for Myanmar’s infrastructure, while USD 57 million has been offered to upgrade the railway system. A further USD 27 million in grants has been pledged for road and rail projects, but there is little yet to show in terms of concrete benefit.

India-Myanmar bilateral trade reached USD 995 million in 2007-08, with Myanmar's exports accounting for USD 810 million. India is Myanmar's fourth largest trading partner (after Thailand, China and Singapore) and absorbs about 25% of its total exports. India hopes to double by 2010 the bilateral trade that now stand at $ one billion.
It is axiomatic that Myanmar needs help from her friends. In order to improve Myanmar’s multi-lateral trade, India can take the initiative by bringing in the ambit of bilateral trade products like bicycles and spare parts, life saving drugs, fertilizers, textiles, gold plated jewelry, fruits, pulses, tea, gems etc. Already, India imports about 60% of Myanmar’s export of pulses. India can provide the technology to improve productivity in Myanmar’s tea industry. Indian expertise in gem cutting and polishing can be harnessed

India and Myanmar are considering the upgradation of the border trade carried out at Reedkhoda (India) and Tamu-Moye (Myanmar) to “normal” trade. This was discussed at the third meeting of Myanmar-India Joint Trade Committee held in October 2008 during the second visit of Indian Minister Jairam Ramesh.

In return for various economic concessions (and support in the UN), China seems to have been given preferential access to exploit Myanmar's natural resources and port facilities along Myanmar's coast. Chinese investment includes involvement in the Shwe gas project off Myanmar's western coast. Human rights organizations allege that the offshore project and a dual oil and gas pipeline being constructed from the coast to Kunming have already resulted in human rights abuses and will likely result in many more as the projects progress.

China was scheduled to begin (in September 2009) the laying of 1,100 kms-long, parallel oil and natural gas pipelines from the deep-sea port at Kyaukpyu (on Myanmar’s Arakan coast in the Bay of Bengal) to Kunming. The pipeline will also tap into key blocks in Myanmar’s energy-rich Shwe gas fields that have been given on a 30-year lease to a Chinese-led consortium. The pipeline project was agreed to during the visit Maung Aye to Beijing in mid-June 2009. It will reduce China’s dependence on the narrow Malacca Straits, through which 80% of its oil imports of four million barrels per day currently pass. When the oil and gas pipelines are completed by 2013, Chinese tankers will dock at Kyaukpyu port to transport 600,000 barrels per day from West Asia and Africa. The gas pipeline can move about 12 billion cubic meters of gas annually.

In late September 2007, when the pro-democracy protests were under way, India’s Minister for Petroleum (Murli Deora) visited Myanmar and secured a contract for three deep-water gas exploration projects for the ONGC.
The 160 km India-Myanmar Friendship Road, between Tamu and Kalemayo (Myanmar) and going on to Kalewa, was built by India in 2001. It is now being strengthened and resurfaced. It effectively links Manipur with Myanmar. Two other sections at Rhi-Tidim and Rhi-Falam across the border from Mizoram are under way.
An optical fibre network has been laid from linking Kolkata with Yangon and Mandalay.

The Kaladan Multi-Modal Transit-cum-Transport Project is essentially transportation project on the River Kaladan, which flows in and out of Mizoram and is navigable all the way to the sea. It empties into the Bay of Bengal near the port of Sittwe (formerly known as Akyab). This port will be developed by India into a major commercial hub, to distribute Mizoram's bamboo crops and Myanmar's forest wealth. Besides 225-km waterway, the project also envisages construction of two roads, ie.e 117 km extending NHI54 to the border and 52 km from the border to Kaleutwa. Sea lanes are also to be developed between Sittwe and Kolkata and Visakhapatnam. Sittwe could also become a major distribution center for oil and gas supplies to India’s North-East.

Kaladan, a wide river with perennial water flow, originates in the upper reaches of Myanmar, enters Mizoram and then meanders back into Myanmar to continue its passage south to the Bay of Bengal. Navigation with 500-ton river crafts is possible all the way from Mizoram. Gooda from the North-East could easily be transported by river to the Bay of Bengal and then onwards to markets in India and elsewhere. The circuitous surface route via Assam and through the Siliguri Corridor could be avoided, cutting transportation costs by nearly half.
Union Minister of State for Commerce and Industry, Jairam Ramesh, announced on 7 January 2008 that India has decided to undertake the project at a cost of more than USD 120 million. The port will be India’s gift to Myanmar, but India would have usage rights. Ramesh termed it as “the most significant initiative the Indian government has taken in South-East Asia”.

When Myanmar realizes the full potential of this project, it may begin utilizing the river for domestic navigational purposes also. Sittwe could eventually become the onshore hub of Myanmar's gas industry once the vast reserves in the Shwe fields in the Bay of Bengal are developed. It is a win-win situation for both India and Myanmar. Further development of the Sittwe port into a gas and oil transshipment terminal may add to its importance. More funds will be required to develop Sittwe to its full potential, but India may (and should) not be averse to putting up the additional funds.

Cyclone Nargis hit Myanmar on 3 May 2008, causing heavy damage in the densely populated, rice-farming delta of the Irrawaddy Division. There were reports that more than 200,000 people were dead or missing, in the worst recorded natural disaster in Myanmar’s history. UN estimates projected that as many as one million people were left homeless. In the immediate days following the disaster, the military regime complicated recovery efforts by delaying the entry of planes delivering medicine, food, and other supplies. A US naval task force carrying much-needed relief supplies, helicopters and other vehicles as well as manpower was denied permission, based on fears that it could be a prelude to a military invasion. Indian leaders sent condolence messages and rushed urgently needed relief and medical supplies to the affected areas, using two naval ships from Port Blair.

High-level military-to-military contacts began in 2000. In January, Indian Army Chief General Ved Prakash Malik paid a two-day visit to Myanmar. This was followed by the reciprocal visit by his Myanmar counterpart, General Maung Aye, to the northeast Indian city of Shillong. In the aftermath of these meetings, India began to provide non-lethal military support to Myanmar troops along the border. Most of the Myanmar troops' uniforms and other combat gear originated from India, as were the leased helicopters Myanmar needed to counter the ethnic insurgents operating from sanctuaries along both sides of the border.

Since the initial exchange of visits, there has been a steady flow of high level visits from both sides. Junta chief, General Than Shwe, visited India In 2004, followed in December 2006 by the third-highest ranking officer in Myanmar's military hierarchy, General Thura Shwe Mann. The latter toured the National Defense Academy in Khadakvasla and the Tata Motors plant in Pune, which manufactures vehicles for India’s military.

After the relatively small-scale pro-democracy demonstrations in 1988, China stepped in with enhanced military aid, enabling Myanmar's army to expand to some 500,000 men, the second-largest standing army in South east Asia. Indian military is also concerned about China modernizing the naval bases at Hanggyi, Cocos, Akyab,, Mergui and the port at Kyauk Phuy. The situations seems to have become an unequal triangular relationship, where one party seems to be reaping all the benefits.
 
:coffee: Indians helped the British invasion of Burma. 1942, British troops to leave Burma, All Indian immigrants have been killed in Myanmar.
Myanmar believes that Assam&Mizoram&Manipur&Nagaland is the territory of Myanmar. Zen-ethic and Wa-ethnic people of India is the Myanmar people, and Myanmar support their independence movement.

i think you are missing my point. go back & read my post 24 again, which should answer your above grievance. ok.. let me copy and paste it again..

'grievances between two countries doesn't mean that you can't have a good diplomatic tie. india had or has grievances against quite a few countires including US, Uk, aus, nepa etc.. difference in openion & diplomacy goes side by side! relationship between india & Mynamar improved considerably since 93.
 
Who is going to tell india to mind terror activity in their soil. Looks like Kerala just did that exposing duplicity in indian official stand.

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Kerala tightens vigil on T.N. border to curb LTTE activities

Special Correspondent

The Intelligence Bureau is keeping a vigil on the movement of suspected persons in the border areas of Tamil Nadu after it received inputs that members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam had reportedly tried to set up camps in the forest areas near Idukki district.

Highly placed sources said there were chances of setting up such camps in the forest areas and adjoining villages as it would give them cover, adding Sri Lankan Tamils could be easily identified in Tamil Nadu by their dialect.

The chances of using airports in Kerala for transit were monitored after Sri Lanka clamped down on the group's activities. The sources said the airports could be used by certain overseas sponsors of the group to keep channels of communication open.

Idukki's forest areas bordering Tamil Nadu in the Periyar Tiger Reserve (PTR) could be used by the cadres to regroup. It is estimated that about 1,000 Sri Lankan Tamils live in Pachakkanam Gavi inside the PTR where they had been repatriated as part of a rehabilitation pact signed by the then Sri Lankan Prime Minister Sirimavo Bandaranaike and her Indian counterpart Jawaharlal Nehru. They work in the cardamom plantations of the Kerala Forest Development Corporation Ltd.

Intelligence sources said a large number of repatriates had migrated to Tamil Nadu and there was a remote chance of communication between them and members of the LTTE.

The Hindu : News / National : Kerala tightens vigil on T.N. border to curb LTTE activities
 
Lol you are bsing mate. Aussies and Kiwis can't tell for shyte, who is Indian who is Pakistani. So anything they say about Pakistanis they say about us too.

wrong matie They can tell who are the winners i.e. India and China. They also know who are the losers full of Al-Qaeda and Drugs. They have become wie after being kicked in the balls (911) and know hypocrite jokers who migrate to thier country and try to impose their backward culture on them. They know all about ayurveda, yoga and bollywood. they also know about our software developing prowess and NAMASTE - AS they greet me here sometimes
 
Who is going to tell india to mind terror activity in their soil. Looks like Kerala just did that exposing duplicity in indian official stand.

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Kerala tightens vigil on T.N. border to curb LTTE activities

Special Correspondent

The Intelligence Bureau is keeping a vigil on the movement of suspected persons in the border areas of Tamil Nadu after it received inputs that members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam had reportedly tried to set up camps in the forest areas near Idukki district.

Highly placed sources said there were chances of setting up such camps in the forest areas and adjoining villages as it would give them cover, adding Sri Lankan Tamils could be easily identified in Tamil Nadu by their dialect.

The chances of using airports in Kerala for transit were monitored after Sri Lanka clamped down on the group's activities. The sources said the airports could be used by certain overseas sponsors of the group to keep channels of communication open.

Idukki's forest areas bordering Tamil Nadu in the Periyar Tiger Reserve (PTR) could be used by the cadres to regroup. It is estimated that about 1,000 Sri Lankan Tamils live in Pachakkanam Gavi inside the PTR where they had been repatriated as part of a rehabilitation pact signed by the then Sri Lankan Prime Minister Sirimavo Bandaranaike and her Indian counterpart Jawaharlal Nehru. They work in the cardamom plantations of the Kerala Forest Development Corporation Ltd.

Intelligence sources said a large number of repatriates had migrated to Tamil Nadu and there was a remote chance of communication between them and members of the LTTE.

The Hindu : News / National : Kerala tightens vigil on T.N. border to curb LTTE activities

Who is going to tell india to mind terror activity in their soil. Looks like Kerala just did that exposing duplicity in indian official stand.

You jumped into this argument without understanding southern India.

Tamil Nadu has several refugees like west bengal has several Bangladeshi refugeees. Neither bangladesh nor Srilanka has taken back all their refugees. And it becomes India's responsibility to curb the activities of the refugees which should have been priority for bangladesh and srilanka to take back their citizen.

And this is precisely what Kerala Govt and Intelligence bureau is doing.
 
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