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MFN status to ruin agriculture, industry alike

MFN status to ruin agriculture, industry alike | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

LAHORE – If the government, by granting MFN status to India, is eager to enhance its imports from the neighbouring country, firstly it should import cheaper fertilisers, diesel and electricity from there, as our manufacturers are looting the masses by selling their products at much higher rates, experts said.
“Diesel is Rs94 per liter in Pakistan while in India it is available for Rs77 (Pakistani rupee) per liter. Electricity is being provided to Indian growers at Re1 per unit and in Pakistan it is not less than Rs8.38 per unit,” they said. The rate of agriculture produce is much higher in India than Pakistan while their cost of production is very low, as the Pakistani farmers spend Rs321.33 billon more on agri inputs as compared to Indian growers.
“As per statistics, India provides around Rs855 billion subsidy to its farmers to reduce their production cost, whereas Pakistan hardly spends Rs8 billion in this regard. India’s agriculture production cost was around two to three times lower than Pakistan due to these subsidies,” agriculture expert and Agri Forum Pakistan chairman, Ibrahim Mughal said.
He claimed that a bag of urea fertilizer of 50kg is available in Pakistan at Rs1,700 but the same bag in India is being sold at Rs513. Similarly, DAP bag is being sold in Pakistan at Rs4,200, while in India it is available for Rs1,539.
He stated that the MFN status to India would ruin Pakistani agriculture. He went on to say that because many of the local industries depend on agriculture, so the industries will also be affected by granting MFN status to India. Curtailing water by India is an attempt to convert Pakistan into a desert and in this way it would sell its fruits and vegetables in Pakistani markets more conveniently at cheaper rates. Bilateral trade between the two countries should be on the basis of equality, he stressed.
He said if Islamabad is serious in giving the status of most favoured nation to India, it must complete its homework first, he said. Mughal urged the government to provide a level playing field to the Pakistani growers before awarding MFN status to India.
In an appeal to the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, he stated that India gives an annual subsidy of Rs855 billion to its agricultural sector and Rs340 billion to the food sector. If Pakistan wants to grant MFN status to India, it should first ensure abolition of this subsidy on Indian side or givt same amount of subsidies to Pakistani growers to ensure a level playing field, he demanded.
He appreciated setting up of a ministry at the federal level for food security and hoped that this new ministry would work efficiently with less spending. Appreciating the government step of timely stopping sugar import and allowing import of urea, he warned that before granting MFN status to India, government should look into some ground realities.
He proposed that the amount for this subsidy could be generated by reducing government official vehicles by half and saving expenses on petrol and maintenance of these vehicles. He said the decision would compromise the viability of domestic pharmaceutical industry.
Local industry is importing 99 per cent of its raw material from India and China, but once the MFN status is functional local manufacturing would be out of question, he added.
Mughal warned the government not to give most favoured nation status to India, saying such a move would be equivalent to economic and agricultural destruction of the country.
Mughal said talks on the issue of Kashmir and water should precede dialogues on trade. He said Pakistan’s Trade Secretary Zafar Mehmood is unaware of geographical realities of the country. He said such a status could only be given to India if the Pakistani traders get facilities in India. He said India was planning to make the lands of Pakistan barren by stopping its water and at the same time it was deceiving the world in the name of composite dialogue.
Pakistani farmers cannot compete with their Indian counterparts, as the Indian government is providing high subsidies on the agriculture inputs, making the cost of production almost half.
Agri experts said there is a marked difference in prices of inputs, including fertiliser, seeds, pesticides, diesel and electricity in both the countries, they said. Hence, they said, there is no comparison between the overall costs of production of farmers living in the two countries. They said that due to such multiple factors, we are not capable of compete with India in international as well as in our own market.
They asked the government to ensure level-playing field to their own farmers before opening trade route with India.
Since inception, the agriculture sector remained neglected and suffered from the lack of investment by the government of Pakistan, they said, adding that India had always given intense importance to its agriculture sector augmented by various subsidies and other incentives.
 
The agri industry in India, perticularly the farmers in India are already loosing a battle to produce quality products because of misplace priorities. we say that "Agri is tha back bone of the Nation" but our policies are breaking our own back bone.
1) Lower procurment price from the farmers is one of the reason that in the comming generations, the number of farmers in India is going to go down.
2) No farmer wants his son to go into farming for reason number 1.

I hope the status of the Pakistani farmers is also the same as ours,
 
Government urged to provide level playing field for Pakistani growers
Government urged to provide level playing field for Pakistani growers | Business Recorder

Agri-Forum Pakistan Chairman Muhammad Ibrahim Mughal has urged the government to provide a level playing field to the Pakistani growers before awarding Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India.

In an appeal to the Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, Agri Forum Chairman claimed that India used to give an annual subsidy (in pak rupees) of Rs 855 billion to its agricultural sector and Rs 340 billion in the food sector.

'Pakistan should ensure abolition of this subsidy or extend same amount of subsidies to Pakistani growers ensuring a level playing field,' Mughal added.

He appreciated setting up of a ministry at the federal level for food security and hoped that this new ministry would work more and spend less.

He also appreciated the government steps of timely stopping sugar import and allowing timely import of urea.
However, he said before giving MFN status to India, government should look in to some ground realities.

He said that India was extending huge subsidies to its growers annually.

Ibrahim Mughal claimed that a bag of Urea fertilizer weighing 50-kilogram is available in Pakistan from Rs 1300 to Rs 1700 but the same in India is sold at Rs 513 per bag.

Similarly DAP bag is being sold in Pakistan at Rs 4200, while in India the same is available at Rs 1539, diesel is Rs 94 per liter in Pakistan while the same in India is available at Rs 77 per liter.
Electricity is being provided to Indian agriculturists at Re 1 per unit and in Pakistan it is being provided at Rs 8.38 per unit.

Agri Forum said that India at one hand was using water as a threat to Pakistan, while on the other hand wanted to turn Pakistan in to market of its agricultural products, which were less expensive due to subsidies.

He said it would also destroy the industrial sector of Pakistan basing on agriculture.

He said if Pakistan wanted to import something then it should import cheaper fertilisers, diesel and cheaper electricity.
He said if India decline to end subsidies to its growers then Pakistan should also extend same amount of subsidy to its growers.

He proposed that the amount for this subsidy could be generated by reducing government official vehicles by half and saving expenses on petrol and maintenance of these vehicles.
 
Ibrahim Mughal is lying. He has not talked about the -ve list that will be used.

Surprise you didn't termed him terrorist :cheesy:

How dare Pakistanis demands, that there tax money shall not be gifted to bhartis by lending Pakistani infrastructure free of cost and paying over time for salaman bashir, while he was working hard to prepare death note of Pakistan economy.
 
Government urged to provide level playing field for Pakistani growers
Government urged to provide level playing field for Pakistani growers | Business Recorder

Agri-Forum Pakistan Chairman Muhammad Ibrahim Mughal has urged the government to provide a level playing field to the Pakistani growers before awarding Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India.

In an appeal to the Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, Agri Forum Chairman claimed that India used to give an annual subsidy (in pak rupees) of Rs 855 billion to its agricultural sector and Rs 340 billion in the food sector.

'Pakistan should ensure abolition of this subsidy or extend same amount of subsidies to Pakistani growers ensuring a level playing field,' Mughal added.

He appreciated setting up of a ministry at the federal level for food security and hoped that this new ministry would work more and spend less.

He also appreciated the government steps of timely stopping sugar import and allowing timely import of urea.
However, he said before giving MFN status to India, government should look in to some ground realities.

He said that India was extending huge subsidies to its growers annually.

Ibrahim Mughal claimed that a bag of Urea fertilizer weighing 50-kilogram is available in Pakistan from Rs 1300 to Rs 1700 but the same in India is sold at Rs 513 per bag.

Similarly DAP bag is being sold in Pakistan at Rs 4200, while in India the same is available at Rs 1539, diesel is Rs 94 per liter in Pakistan while the same in India is available at Rs 77 per liter.
Electricity is being provided to Indian agriculturists at Re 1 per unit and in Pakistan it is being provided at Rs 8.38 per unit.

Agri Forum said that India at one hand was using water as a threat to Pakistan, while on the other hand wanted to turn Pakistan in to market of its agricultural products, which were less expensive due to subsidies.

He said it would also destroy the industrial sector of Pakistan basing on agriculture.

He said if Pakistan wanted to import something then it should import cheaper fertilisers, diesel and cheaper electricity.
He said if India decline to end subsidies to its growers then Pakistan should also extend same amount of subsidy to its growers.

He proposed that the amount for this subsidy could be generated by reducing government official vehicles by half and saving expenses on petrol and maintenance of these vehicles.

How India could be threat to Pakistan agri?? We literally have to fight with India in BD so that they dont stop exporting to us. Just watch the drama over Cattle, rice and onions and cotton.. LOL
We are always ready with bigger wallet..
 
How India could be threat to Pakistan agri?? We literally have to fight with India in BD so that they dont stop exporting to us. Just watch the drama over Cattle, rice and onions and cotton.. LOL
We are always ready with bigger wallet..

Bigger wallet than whos? try to get an amriki brain transplant while you are there!

And do some google search that when bhartis were exporting onions to Pakistan than your big wallets got stuck in small holes.
 
Interesting to note is the term we call "ignorance of masses". Be it India or Pakistan protectionism comes at the cost of consumer. The producer are a minority and are well organized to safeguard their interests as opposed to consumers. When protectionist barriers are built, the domestic price of goods increase and those "innocent" manufacturers reap profits while consumers lose.
 
Surprise you didn't termed him terrorist :cheesy:

How dare Pakistanis demands, that there tax money shall not be gifted to bhartis by lending Pakistani infrastructure free of cost and paying over time for salaman bashir, while he was working hard to prepare death note of Pakistan economy.

hahaha i can call him an intellectual terrorist.. but seriously you dont know what you are talking about.
 
Big Question!!! Why Pakistan gave MFN to India when there is long list of things being ruined in Pakistan. First it was Pharmaceuticals, now agriculture. If they feel they are going to loose only why they gave MFN to India. :wave:
 
There you go guys these fools are taking 'MFN' literally by its name. There is nothing favored in 'Most Favored Nation'. May be UN should change the term to something else just to cajole Pakistanis .
 
Vested interest are finding lame excuses to protect their "turf" or "license raj " as said in India.
Remember "Bombay Club".???
 
Interesting to note is the term we call "ignorance of masses". Be it India or Pakistan protectionism comes at the cost of consumer. The producer are a minority and are well organized to safeguard their interests as opposed to consumers. When protectionist barriers are built, the domestic price of goods increase and those "innocent" manufacturers reap profits while consumers lose.

Man are you from mars, you don't know that producers are the ones who get the least of the pie.
Producing Milk is a costly business, it needs labour, the cows need oil cake, paddy dust, and good gracing and at the end the government companies which buy and sell to the consumers get the milk from producers at a price that does not even tally with the cost of producing it in the first place.
When consumers are ready to buy coco cola at Rs 40 a liter, why not the consumers not ready to accept that the milk is more worth than coke.
After all the middle man is the one who gets the most, the producers loose, the consumers loose only the middle men gain.
This situation is not only with milk, but for any agri product to take the case is the same.
The minimum support price is not there for perishable agri products and if that is fixed by the government, its lower than the production cost of the products.
This is the reason why the number of farmers commit sucuide, has there been a case where the middle men, and the end consumer commit sucide because of price raise, NO.

Lets come to the case of consumers, today the salary of every one has increase.
A skilled mason is charging Rs 600 a day, a software engineer gets over Rs 3000 a day, the government employees get much higger.
So when the spending capacity of individuals increase, what they do, they start trading their money on non-esential commodities such as CAR, jwells, etc. my question is why are they complaining when food prices raise and why are they not complaining when gold price raises?

come on man, the farmers are not selfish. they just make a living by doing social service(producing the essential commodities) for our nation.
Amd is this the way we treat them? telling that they are steeling money from consumers.

Your posts shows the level of ignorance that you have about agri.
 
There you go guys these fools are taking 'MFN' literally by its name. There is nothing favored in 'Most Favored Nation'. May be UN should change the term to something else just to cajole Pakistanis .

What does UN had got to do with subsidies, assisted facilities, express visas, duty exemption, accelerated paper work & free transportation to bharti scrap?

Normally, it is Pakistan's industry who need to file case against Pakistan govt. in international court of justice.
 
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