Massive space galaxy weighs as much as 800 trillion Suns

[DesiGuy]

Astronomers today said they found a massive space system known as a galaxy cluster 7 billion light-years away from Earth that holds hundreds of galaxies and weighs in at around 800 trillion Suns.

The cluster, designated SPT-CL J0546-5345, seen at 7 billion light years away would be four times larger in real time making it one of the most massive galaxy clusters in the universe, astronomers claim.

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"This galaxy cluster wins the heavyweight title. It's among the most massive clusters ever found at this distance," Mark Brodwin, a Smithsonian astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics said in a statement. Brodwin and his colleagues spotted the huge system from data collected from the National Science Foundation-funded, South Pole Telescope.

Once this distant cluster was found, the team studied it with the Infrared Array Camera on the Spitzer Space Telescope to pinpoint galaxies within the cluster. Detailed observations of the galaxies' speeds with the Magellan telescopes in Chile proved that the galaxy cluster was a heavyweight, the astronomers stated.

The team expects to find many more giant galaxy clusters lurking in the distance once the South Pole Telescope survey is completed next year, the astronomers stated.

 

[BATMAN]

And who says their is no God.
God is the creator of whole universe including men and devil.

 

[DesiGuy]

And who says their is no God.
God is the creator of whole universe including men and devil.

because god never told us that these galaxies weights as much as 800 trillion suns. maybe that's why.

 

[BATMAN]

God gave us the knowledge.
The guy who discovered gravity was not taught about that in school and so on.

But...have fun with your beliefs.

 

[Zeluvaa]

The title is wrong actually.

The cluster of galaxies which contains millions or billions of galaxy has a weight of 800 trillion suns. The title suggests a single galaxy has that weight which is simply impossible.

 

[Gold1010]

According to the big bang different universes could have different physics from our own universe.

and yes its not 1 galaxy for some reason astronomers class these clusters of galaxies as a single object.

 

[Jade]

The clusters of galaxies are really was an enigma for scientists. The question for most scientists was how come the galaxies are bounded when their velocities should rip them apart. Even after taking the intra galactic gas, the total gravitational attraction should not prevent the galaxies from flying apart. The missing component could be the dark matter that is preventing the individual galaxies from flying apart.

As regarding the future of a cluster of galaxies, they may amalgamate to form a super galaxy

According to the big bang different universes could have different physics from our own universe.

No there is no physical evidence that there are many universes, how mathematically that is a possibility, because the laws of physics are dependent on the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles such as electrons, protons etc… and the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles are determined at the time of big bang…and as the big bang cannot be replicated exactly similar every time, the law physics should be different in different universes

As regarding the number of universes and different laws of physics, Leonard Susskind, One of the first string-theorist, says that hypothesis of Eternal Inflation contains countless numbers of universes (~10 ^500), all with different laws of physics.

and yes its not 1 galaxy for some reason astronomers class these clusters of galaxies as a single object.

The classification of units in the Universe is very difficult as every body is having some effect on every other body...so if the effect is very large there is nothing wrong in classifying the whole system as a single unit. For ex:let us take our own solar system. Sun is one unit but again its a part of another unit called the solar system

 

[Gold1010]

I never said there was evidence thats why i said couldand i never said there was anything wrong with classing it as a single object i was just pointing it out.

Space has to be the least understood subject by humans after all even the big bang is just a theory.

 

[anoopsaxena76]

No there is no physical evidence that there are many universes, how mathematically that is a possibility, because the laws of physics are dependent on the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles such as electrons, protons etc… and the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles are determined at the time of big bang…and as the big bang cannot be replicated exactly similar every time, the law physics should be different in different universes

The statement in bold is scientifically speaking, fundamentally wrong.

So the conclusion you made about the law of physics to be different do not hold.

Regards,
Anoop.

 

[Jade]

I never said there was evidence thats why i said couldand i never said there was anything wrong with classing it as a single object i was just pointing it out.

Space has to be the least understood subject by humans after all even the big bang is just a theory.

Nobody for sure can say that Big Bang has actually happened. However, having said that, Big Bang is actually more than a theory. We have plenty of evidence such as measure of Doppler shift of galaxies, cosmic microwave background radiation Map, and cosmic distance ladder etc… to support Big Bang

It is not to say that there are no competing theories to big bang. Some of the prominent ones are steady state theory, oscillatory universe theory and Milne model. However, the ever increasing evidence about origins of Universe is zeroing on the big bang. Now, all most all physicists are betting big on big bang. It is hard to find physicists now support the alternative theories

 

[Jade]

The statement in bold is scientifically speaking, fundamentally wrong.

So the conclusion you made about the law of physics to be different do not hold.

Regards,
Anoop.

Regarding the bold statement, could you please elucidate it further.

Regarding the conclusion about the law of physics, if you observe all the laws from gravity to quantum mechanics to thermodynamics use the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles, hence if the fundamental properties changes so does the physics

 

[anoopsaxena76]

Regarding the bold statement, could you please elucidate it further.

Regarding the conclusion about the law of physics, if you observe all the laws from gravity to quantum mechanics to thermodynamics use the fundamental properties of the fundamental particles, hence if the fundamental properties changes so does the physics

No physicist will ever go beyond big bang. Science breaks down at big bang and so to talk about multiple big bangs is pure speculation. That is making one too many assumptions. Some of which are:

1.) That universe existed before big bang time period
2.) That this previous universe also started with a big bang etc....

So let's just stick to the current big bang theory. And as someone pointed out that this is just a theory. The evidence against it is also overwhelming actually. Not that I am a supporter of Steady state or string theory. Those are just the facts and it remains the most widely accepted theory.

Regards,
Anoop

 

[Jade]

No physicist will ever go beyond big bang. Science breaks down at big bang and so to talk about multiple big bangs is pure speculation. That is making one too many assumptions. Some of which are:

1.) That universe existed before big bang time period
2.) That this previous universe also started with a big bang etc....

So let's just stick to the current big bang theory. And as someone pointed out that this is just a theory. The evidence against it is also overwhelming actually. Not that I am a supporter of Steady state or string theory. Those are just the facts and it remains the most widely accepted theory.

Regards,
Anoop

First, there is no relationship between big bang and multiple Universes/multiple big bangs neither am I arguing that multiple Universes exist. Multiple Universes is a mathematical possibility and a direct consequence Eternal Inflation theory, one of the theories in the string theory and itself based on the theory of probability

As regarding whether physicist should go beyond big bang, it may not be required, as time and space have their origins in the big bang and any thing that has happened before big bang has no effect after the big bang and on the present status of the Universe

 

[anoopsaxena76]

First, there is no relationship between big bang and multiple Universes/multiple big bangs neither am I arguing that multiple Universes exist. Multiple Universes is a mathematical possibility and a direct consequence Eternal Inflation theory, one of the theories in the string theory and itself based on the theory of probability

No.. but even in the case of a multiverse, to assume all those came from their own respective big bangs is wrong.

As regarding whether physicist should go beyond big bang, it may not be required, as time and space have their origins in the big bang and any thing that has happened before big bang has no effect after the big bang and on the present status of the Universe

If scientist could, they would.. else science would not have evolved.

Regards,
Anoop.

 

[Frankenstein]

because god never told us that these galaxies weights as much as 800 trillion suns. maybe that's why.

Trust me most of the thing were written in Quran, a lot before scientist even discovered it