Man dies after getting hit by falling parts of Metro Bridge in Rawalpindi

[silent hawk]

Than there should be already FIR registered by the opposition party, against Hanif Abbasi.
Apparently IK is lollypop of self proclaimed liberals.

The guy has said he would take criminal action. Why should the opposition register FIR?

 

[OTTOMAN]

The guy has said he would take criminal action. Why should the opposition register FIR?

Sorry for asking too much from opposition.
I didn't read the news but from title, I assume the guy is dead !
How come he register FIR?

 

[silent hawk]

Sorry for asking too much from opposition.
I didn't read the news but from title, I assume the guy is dead !
How come he register FIR?

The relative giving the interview.

 

[Bouncer]

Another Fool Flag post!!!! What's your educational background? Write back to me and let's debate in Engineering terms. Fan boy is one thing, putting your nose into highly Engineering related topics is another, and even that, WITHOUT proofs or a full Engineering assessment!!! NO PM or CM or even the CEO of a company have to go for an accident like this. The company should offer compensation if it was their material's fault.

What's next? A homeless druggie, dying because of getting hit by a bus, and fools on here screaming that the bus is a part of the state transportation so therefor the CM should be let go?

Btw, IK got so many killed in his violent sit-ins and committed treason against the country by attacking Parliament.....how many of you have written about him getting arrested for murder trial....????? And that was for PURE personal greed!!! Like I told one of your other cousins, clean up your own house. Practice what you preach, don't bullshiit others and do worst yourself.

Electrical engineer turned project manager. Executed multi-million USD projects globally. And a resident of Pindi who uses this road almost every other day. Vendor was supposed to use the right quality and quantity of materials according to the engineering design and Gov body managing this project was supposed to ensure it. So how am I wrong when I say that the ultimate responsibility lies with the Gov?

What's your background? You and that moron Qalandari are paid shills most probably. I am not a PTI supporter. And I am definitely not a blind fucktard like you.

And what's up with you and IK? Teri pehn nu chadd k dor gaya si? You make every thread about IK bashing. Wadda aya analyst BC.

 

[OTTOMAN]

The relative giving the interview.

Relative is easy to handle, consider the case closed.
Hanif Abbasi is well known drug dealer... he will settle it with relative ease... rather said cheaply.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

NLC is the National Logistics Cell, they don't do construction genius, they do logistics.

NLC also build remember the sheer Shah bridge that fell was also build by NLC

i know which firm build which section....
Bidding Status –
Projects In Center - National Logistics Cell


NLC wins a contract for Pindi section of Metro Bus Project

RAWALPINDI: Three firms were selected to build the Rawalpindi part of the Metro Bus Project when bids for the works were opened on Monday, but the army-run National Logistics Cell (NLC) won the best deal.

Its bid of Rs4.71 billion for one of the three sections of an elevated road to be built from Flashman’s Hotel to Faizabad, was accepted by the Rawalpindi Development Authority (RDA) although it was nominally above the official offer of Rs4.7 billion for the job.

Of the other two winners, ZKB bid was Rs600 million less than the official offer of Rs5.3 billion and the Lemark-Reliabale joint venture’s was Rs200 million less than the official Rs3.7 billion.

District Coordination Officer Sajid Zafar Dall, who presided over the scrutiny of the bids, said that NLC’s bid was comparatively lower than other firms.

“There is no need to re-invite any more bids for this section as it is some million higher than the official estimates,” he told Dawn.

Nine firms were vying for the three contracts in the bidding process, held for the second time because of the objections raised by the Chinese firm CGRF to the first processing held in February.

However, the CGRF found itself ousted again as it failed to produce the Pakistan Engineering Council’s certificate that it was a Category A firm.

Another army-run firm, the Frontier Works Organisation (FWO), also was in the run but lost the race because its bids were higher. Interestingly, the FWO entered the bid when it had abandoned the contract awarded to it to rebuild the burnt out Madressah Taleemul Quran in the city on the plea that it was busy in Balochistan.

NLC won the contract for the Committee Chowk to 6th Road section of the elevated road over the Benazir Bhutto Road. It is the first contract in Rawalpindi that NLC got through proper bidding. In the past the provincial government awarded it contracts for three flyovers worth about Rs4 billion without calling any bids for the jobs.

At present it is working on widening the Marrir Chowk Railway Bridge for Rs550 million.

A RDA officer, requesting anonymity, confirmed to Dawn that the provincial government is yet to acquire land for the construction of bus stations in thickly populated area from Committee Chowk to 6th Road and needed a ‘powerful’ contractor for the purpose.

Bids for the Rawalpindi part of the Metro Bus Project were opened at RDA office in the presence of District Coordination Officer Sajid Zafar Dall, RDA Chief Engineer Asghar Warraich, Lahore Development Authority Chief Engineer Israr Ahmed, Nespak representative Suhail Sulhari and Works and Communication Executive Engineer Mohammad Haider.

ZKB won the contract for Package A of the project that is Flashman’s Hotel to Committee Chowk section, NLC for Package B, from Committee Chowk to 6th Road, and Lemak-Reliable joint venture for Package C from 6th Road to Faizabad.

DCO Dall said that in the next two days the RDA will ask the contractors to start moving their machinery and equipment to the work sites and formal work will start from March 27.

“It is not violating any rules. According to PEPRA rule, the work order is issued after 10 days of the bidding,” he said. Though acknowledging that land acquisition for bus stations would take two months, the DCO said it would not affect the construction work of elevated road from Saddar to Faizabad.

DCO Dall said the process of prequalification for the firms for Islamabad section of the Rs23.9 billion metro bus project would start soon.

 

[OTTOMAN]

I say that the ultimate responsibility lies with the Gov?

Without any pressure... why should govt. punish it self?
Govt. was far more directly complicit in model town killings, captured on cameras.... nothing happened than nothing will happen now.
We are just watching time exposing IK and his politics.

 

[I M Sikander]

Nothing wrong with the bridge, it was actually the extra concrete usually left after the construction , and it fell on the person below.

Hats off to metro haters for making it an issue of poor quality.

 

[I M Sikander]

They themselves are directly involved in selecting the contractors.

This is fact. You can't argue with this.

They chose contractors based on commissions/kickbacks. Their preference is obviously towards foreign companies.

The contractor is NLC which is a renowned local firm. Do some homework before farting online.

 

[Bouncer]

Nothing wrong with the bridge, it was actually the extra concrete usually left after the construction , and it fell on the person below.

Right, the extra concrete was left sticking to the BOTTOM of the bridge. See the pictures, my friend. And this coming from someone who absolutely loves the metro. Someone has to pay for this poor guy's life.

 

[I M Sikander]

Right, the extra concrete was left sticking to the BOTTOM of the bridge. See the pictures, my friend. And this coming from someone who absolutely loves the metro. Someone has to pay for this poor guy's life.

That concrete was stick on the sides of the columns near the bottom. Check the pic.

 

[Leader]

 

[somebozo]

When projects are done on political grounds this will be the result always....an independent infrastructure development body free of all political interference should under take such plans

 

[Viper0011.]

Electrical engineer turned project manager. Executed multi-million USD projects globally. And a resident of Pindi who uses this road almost every other day.

Vendor was supposed to use the right quality and quantity of materials according to the engineering design and Gov body managing this project was supposed to ensure it. So how am I wrong when I say that the ultimate responsibility lies with the Gov?

What's your background? And I am definitely not a blind fucktard like you.

And what's up with you and IK? Teri pehn nu chadd k dor gaya si? You make every thread about IK bashing. Wadda aya analyst BC.

I am going to ignore whatever personal crap you've written. But your "Educational" background sounded impressive for a second till I saw the personals. I highly DOUBT you've executed projects across the globe as the "civil" and "polish" personality from your posts is missing. But that's ok. Electrical Engineer isn't an authority over Civil Construction, Metal and other items we've been discussing here.

Who managed the project? Did SS sit down over it? Projects this size (if you REALLY have a project management background) are executed by the contracting company. Government provides oversight. When someone bids on the project, one of the few MAIN requirements are higher quality material. That's why you have LICENSES. In any country, if an Engineering Company, a Doctor or any License holder does fraud and is proven through an investigation, they lose their license, pay millions in damages and fix the problem, AND lose the contract.

So why not follow the legal process and take the builder to the court, ask for damages, do a full investigation and find out who did fraud. What's wrong with it? That is THE legal process used throughout the world. So why there should be an exception that should be made to include SS or NS in it? These things have and will happen as humans work. Unless you think God would send angels to develop Pakistan???

Tomorrow, a druggie on the street would get hit by a bus, would you ask for SS to be hung till death because eventually the state owns the transportation system? What's next? a dying patient who got wrong treatment from a doctor (happens all the time), would require SS or NS to be executed because they are the PM, so technically all institutes report to them?

Let's keep stupidity out of a serious issue aside. Let's not cash politics and make third class statements on a dead individual. Investigation should determine what happened and the law should take appropriate action and the Justice System will serve the justice. Learn to live in a civil society that has a working legal system. You now HAVE a system and its working.

On a separate note, I don't like to brag about it, I am probably one of the most qualified individuals on this forum. I've been to Engineering school, Medical and Law. I was one of those guys who wanted to learn multiple things. Like I said, I don't brag about these things. But if you are debating with me, try to bring facts in, vs. your personal opinions and gossip, when we are talking about loss of a human life!!!!

@Slav Defence @Horus @Irfan Baloch : please take care of the personal insults above. The forum needs some serious rules on this one issue.

 

[Bouncer]

Electrical Engineer isn't an authority over Civil Construction, Metal and other items we've been discussing here.

Where exactly did we discuss civil engineering, metals or anything remotely technical?? Quote that post.

Who managed the project? Did SS sit down over it? Projects this size (if you REALLY have a project management background) are executed by the contracting company. Government provides oversight.

SS appointed Hanif Abbasi, a non-elected person, as the manager/overseer.

Projets this size are managed at different levels. From onsite project managers up to steering committees. Government's job is not merely oversight. Gov publishes the technical and financial specs, floats the RFP/RFQs etc. Approves bids. Oversees the execution. And finally, it performs audit and acceptance. So yea, government IS RESPONSIBLE if the project fails to meet its stated objectives in time, cost or quality (which is the case here). I forgot to mention that my projects included some government projects as well

So why not follow the legal process and take the builder to the court, ask for damages, do a full investigation and find out who did fraud. What's wrong with it?

Who said anything about NOT adopting the legal process. I am well aware of the practice both nationally and internationally. You don't need to fill your posts with random gibberish. Stick to the point. Prove how the Gov and SS, as the chief executive of this project and the province where this incident took place, is not responsible.

Tomorrow, a druggie on the street would get hit by a bus, would you ask for SS to be hung till death because eventually the state owns the transportation system?

Again with the BS. HOW THE HELL DO YOU COMPARE A DRUGGIE GETTING HIT BY A BUS TO A PEDESTRIAN GETTING HIT BY PIECES OF CONCRETE ON HIS HEAD THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN??

Let's keep stupidity out of a serious issue aside. Let's not cash politics and make third class statements on a dead individual.

I agree. But read my first post again and let me know where did I try to "cash politics".

Investigation should determine what happened and the law should take appropriate action and the Justice System will serve the justice. Learn to live in a civil society that has a working legal system. You now HAVE a system and its working.

Right. Again, where did I say otherwise?

On a separate note, I don't like to brag about it, I am probably one of the most qualified individuals on this forum. I've been to Engineering school, Medical and Law. I was one of those guys who wanted to learn multiple things. Like I said, I don't brag about these things.

Lol OK. You definetely don't like to brag.

@Slav Defence @Horus @Irfan Baloch : please take care of the personal insults above. The forum needs some serious rules on this one issue.

Damn right this forum needs some serious rules on this issue. You come puke on every thread with your pro-gov and anti-opposition crap. You insult every single member who dares to criticize the Gov or its policies. You are the one who makes it personal. I hope the people you tagged go through your post history.

And yea I used abusive language. Because you ruin the quality of each and every thread. Your posts used to be informative. But now they just seem like paid posts full of personal insults trying to bully other members.