‘Made in India,’ Faked in China

[LaBong]

Like Jade said, faking a reputed branded drug has multifold effect both to the customers and the brand value. China should be more proactive in this issue.

 

[ajtr]

Could you please do me a favour? I'm new here and hence don't know how to ignore a person's comments, I suppose there are a few settings for that which I'm unaware of. Could you please tell me about those settings so that I can do the honours of making you the first person in my list?

Please do help me dear.

Thanks in advance.

if reality hurts ur sensivities easy thing is that dont read them and live in ur delusions .

 

[CardSharp]

easy thing is that dont read them.

Don't you see? He's making a point of conspicuously telling you that he is going to ignore you, that way you'd feel all angry and hurt because he won't listen to you anymore.

 

[LaBong]

Ignoring doesn't help if other people quote the troll posts.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Ignoring doesn't help if other people quote the troll posts.

True... when that happens I just ignore it anyway.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

if reality hurts ur sensivities easy thing is that dont read them and live in ur delusions .

Try something else, honey. You're getting very predictable and, as a natural fallout of that, pretty boring.

 

[LaBong]

Anyways I don't think there is any black and white classification of Chinese and Indian drug companies. It's a serious issue and should be addressed by both India and China. Considering PRC's responsible action towards Internet spammers, I do hope they will curb these fake drug seller as well.

 

[CardSharp]

Go to his user profile, user lists, then add to ignore list.

Gee I hope all those people who thanked you realizes that you were just being helpful.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Gee I hope all those people who thanked you realizes that you were just being helpful.

lol I do.

 

[Markus]

Gee I hope all those people who thanked you realizes that you were just being helpful.

People who help deserve THANKS.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Gee I hope all those people who thanked you realizes that you were just being helpful.

Yes buddy I was being helpful, but I'm also a bit curious about "ajtr".

 

[Jade]

How you even make this statement is beyond me and how you go about proving

1) “branded faked drug” are more harmful than generic fake drugs
2) India's 75% of the world's fake drugs are not branded.

I suspect you can prove neither.

I think you are misunderstanding the meaning of “branded” to “branded formulations”. By “branded”, I mean drugs from reputed companies. Generic drugs can also come from reputed companies, whereas “branded formulations” are patented drugs.

“Branded formulations” are protected by IPR, whereas “generics” are not. So any company can produce “generics”.

 

[CardSharp]

I think you are misunderstanding the meaning of “branded” to “branded formulations”. By “branded”, I mean drugs from reputed companies. Generic drugs can also come from reputed companies, whereas “branded formulations” are patented drugs.

“Branded formulations” are protected by IPR, whereas “generics” are not. So any company can produce “generics”.

Look please don't be patronizing, I am doing my degree in pharmaceuticals at a world top 20 university, I know what a drug patent is. You still have to prove to me that fake branded drugs are more harmful than fake generic drugs and you can't really. All you are doing is participating in an exercise of very faulty logic


Here are the underlying assumptions of your case.

1) doctors proscribe branded drugs more than generics
2) because those drugs are proscribed by doctors, hence they must do more damage if they are fake.
3) This article makes mention of only Chinese fake drugs therefore there probably isn't a Indian branded fake drugs problem.
5) Ipso facto, what China is doing must be much more damaging even though they only contribute a measly 6% vs India's whooping 75% of the world supply of fake drugs.

No assumption here have been proven or is looking like it can be proven.

 

[Jade]

Look please don't be patronizing, I am doing my degree in pharmaceuticals at a world top 20 university, I know what a drug patent is. You still have to prove to me that fake branded drugs are more harmful than fake generic drugs and you can't really. All you are doing is participating in an exercise of very faulty logic


Here are the underlying assumptions of your case.

1) doctors proscribe branded drugs more than generics
2) because those drugs are proscribed by doctors, hence they must do more damage if they are fake.
3) This article makes mention of only Chinese fake drugs therefore there probably isn't a Indian branded fake drugs problem.
5) Ipso facto, what China is doing must be much more damaging even though they only contribute a measly 6% vs India's whooping 75% of the world supply of fake drugs.

No assumption here have been proven or is looking like it can be proven.

Sorry if that has hurt you, I, as a management consultant, have worked with Dr.Reddy’s, one of the Pharma giants in India, for almost three years in expanding their businesses and is talking from that experience.

As regarding your points

1)Both branded faked drugs and generic fake drugs are harmful
2)IPR's and markets in India are pretty strong, vigilant and active for fake companies to produce fake generics by branded names

 

[CardSharp]

Ok suppose I am willing to accept your claims at face value, you'd still have to establish these two statements as fact.


1) doctors proscribe branded drugs more than generics
(I don't know how it works in India but, doctors only write proscriptions, it is up the patient to decide on brand name or generic)



2) because those drugs are proscribed by doctors, hence they must do more damage if they are fake.
(and this I just don't really understand how it works)