M&M’s are not halal and people are freaking out

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I have been eating frozen shami kabab for 2 days since my parents are travelling and before that it was left over Korma, and plain boring rice (white) no flavor


Frozen sheer mal turned out ok , after some warming up

Beggars can't be choosers

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Issues facing Pakistan are greater then total number of M&M candies in a bag

Issues facing Pakistan are greater then all the M&M candies in the world.

 

[Zibago]

Is it haram to not care ?

 

[Thorough Pro]

I didn't know eating pork intoxicates.

As per my understanding If any Haram thing is used in preparation of any halal thang, that too becomes Haram.
You do what you think is right for you, no body is forcing you to do or not do anything.

Salaam



Let's not go around giving fatwas just yet.

The rule of fiqh is:

Anything that intoxicates in large quantities is not allowed even in small quantities.

So if eating vanilla gets you intoxicated, then sure.

With regards to insects - there is a grey area. Have you seen any reputable fatwa by a senior committee of scholars about insect based ingredients?

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[Indus Pakistan]

A lot of Western products consumed in the Islamic world are indeed not Halal.

I know. Even the air we breath in Europe is not halal ...

 

[LeGenD]

What about the chicken who eats M&M?

Haram Haram...

 

[maximuswarrior]

I know. Even the air we breath in Europe is not halal ...

Let's admit it. A lot of Western products contain certain ingredients which are not Halal. Period.

If Muslim nations realise this they need to do something about it instead of consuming shit like sheeps.

These are not my rules so don't blame me.

As for the Muslims living in Europe, if they take Halal Haram seriously they would take necessary precautions. If not, enjoy.

I didn't know eating pork intoxicates.

As per my understanding If any Haram thing is used in preparation of any halal thang, that too becomes Haram.
You do what you think is right for you, no body is forcing you to do or not do anything.

It does become Haram. A lot of crap prepared at fast food restaurants is for that reason not Kosher/Halal.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Let's admit it. A lot of Western products contain certain ingredients which are not Halal. Period.

Very true including many medications.

As for the Muslims living in Europe

I can guarantee you that at some point [unless you lock yourself in your house] you will have taken a breath of air that was saturated with trace elements of alcohol, thus placing you in contravention of rules relating to what is halal. I even put this question to Pakistan taxi drivers [as you know in UK taxi industry is almost all dominated by people of Pakistani origin] that when they pick up fares from clubs there are two issues that create grounds for concern -

• when drunks breath they exhale alcohol into the air which they breath. Thus ingesting alcohol fumes. Much like secondary cigeratte smoking this makes then secondary alcohol inhalers thus in jeopardy of halal rules.
• when semi naked women walk past or are in close proximity your eyes fall on them generating wrong thoughts in you, again in jeopardy of halal rules.

Since both these examples are unavoidable [including many others] for a Muslim living in the west it raises issues. Now one could argue that by living here we have no choice and thus these dangers are unavoidable. But that is not quite honest. Non of us are tied [well besides the good money and living standard] or chained to the ground. It is elective choice we make by living in the west. We could easily move to more Sharia compliant lands where shagging men, drinking alcohol, gay love, promiscious display of nudity is not so openly legally accepty accepted leave alone celebrated.

Thus making us complicit. More then those M&M candy chewers!

 

[Dubious]

For fcuks sakes -

• 95% of Pakistani's not paying any tax is halal
• Cheating at every corner is halal
• deception at every corner is halal
• not taking care of sick is halal
• abusing the poor is halal
• shagging children is halal
• smoking narcotics is halal
• throwing rubbish and living in filth is halal

But lo behold some punk declares that there is trace element in such a such sweet and the heavens come crashing, earth rattles in awe of Allah's vengence.

Halal/ Haraam is about lifestyle, which includes FOOD -esp food you give your children...You are what you eat!

 

[CriticalThought]

Only the red one. That red colour comes from an insect. btw anything that uses vanilla falvour is also not Halal, because Vanilla flavour is extracted using vodka.

Vanilla extract is using alcohol while vanilla flavour isnt

Vanilla flavor is made with required amount of vanilla bean extractives, but without alcohol. Propylene glycol is the most common substitute. The Standard of Identity states that this product cannot be labeled extract due to the lack of alcohol.

Not necessarily. Here in Australia I can buy vacuum extracted pure Vanilla concentrate. So you need to contact the manufacturer and verify.

 

[Dubious]

Very true including many medications.

I can guarantee you that at some point [unless you lock yourself in your house] you will have taken a breath of air that was saturated with trace elements of alcohol, thus placing you in contravention of rules relating to what is halal. I even put this question to Pakistan taxi drivers [as you know in UK taxi industry is almost all dominated by people of Pakistani origin] that when they pick up fares from clubs there are two issues that create grounds for concern -

• when drunks breath they exhale alcohol into the air which they breath. Thus ingesting alcohol fumes. Much like secondary cigeratte smoking this makes then secondary alcohol inhalers thus in jeopardy of halal rules.
• when semi naked women walk past or are in close proximity your eyes fall on them generating wrong thoughts in you, again in jeopardy of halal rules.

Since both these examples are unavoidable [including many others] for a Muslim living in the west it raises issues. Now one could argue that by living here we have no choice and thus these dangers are unavoidable. But that is not quite honest. Non of us are tied [well besides the good money and living standard] or chained to the ground. It is elective choice we make by living in the west. We could easily move to more Sharia compliant lands where shagging men, drinking alcohol, gay love, promiscious display of nudity is not so openly legally accepty accepted leave alone celebrated.

Thus making us complicit. More then those M&M candy chewers!

Unintentionally even eating pork is allowed..but the min it is intentional....it isnt halal...
The concern abt this is, we give these to our kids and make them used to haram from childhood!

Not necessarily. Here in Australia I can buy vacuum extracted pure Vanilla concentrate. So you need to contact the manufacturer and verify.

TRUE...You can also get plant based gelatin and many other alternatives if you can find.....

 

[CriticalThought]

Unintentionally even eating pork is allowed..but the min it is intentional....it isnt halal...
The concern abt this is, we give these to our kids and make them used to haram from childhood!


TRUE...You can also get plant based gelatin and many other alternatives if you can find.....

I have never heard of plant based gelatine. There is agar agar, but it is not an exact replacement.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Yes there are other methods too, but cheap vodka/alchol is the cheapest and quickest method and most manufacturers use this method.

Because no manufacturer ever provides the source or method of the vanilla used in their product, I avoid anything that uses vanilla flavour/extract just to be on the safe side. people are free to make their own choices.

Not necessarily. Here in Australia I can buy vacuum extracted pure Vanilla concentrate. So you need to contact the manufacturer and verify.

 

[waz]

Lol....

 

[CriticalThought]

Yes there are other methods too, but cheap vodka/alchol is the cheapest and quickest method and most manufacturers use this method.

Because no manufacturer ever provides the source or method of the vanilla used in their product, I avoid anything that uses vanilla flavour/extract just to be on the safe side. people are free to make their own choices.

You do the right thing.