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Friday, July 3, 2015, 10:23
Low costs, but high ambitions
By PEARL LIU in Hong Kong
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A woman walks past an AirAsia advertisement in Kuala Lumpur on Aug 20, 2014. The Malaysian-based airline is one of several low-cost carriers in the region that is adding new flights, increasing capacity and buying new aircraft.(AFP)

The Idul Fitri holiday in Indonesia marks a busy time of the year for travel. Lasting most of July in 2015, the celebration comes after the fasting month of Ramadan and sees millions of Indonesians returning to their home villages, leading to soaring demand for flight tickets.

This year, AirAsia, one of the best-known low-cost carriers (LCCs) in the region, is adding as many as 90 extra flights and 16,200 seats to cater for demand in Indonesia. Selling more tickets should help the Malaysia-based airline shore up its profitability.

Much like their full-service peers, LCCs in Asia are struggling to be profitable, even as they expand their footprint and the number of routes on offer.

Airlines around the world are finding their way back in the black after years of difficulties, thanks to streamlined operations and lower costs — not least of oil. In Asia, this search for profits has been harder.

The Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (CAPA), an industry consultancy based in Sydney, says 11 out of a total of 18 Southeast Asian publicly traded airlines reported unprofitable operations and five of the remaining seven saw a reduction in operation profits in 2014.

"Last year, the environment in some countries of the region was quite tough,” says Brendan Sobie, chief analyst at CAPA. “The demand had a bit of a hiccup last year because of the (changing) situation.”

Thailand’s economy, for example, was set back by a prolonged period of political instability. Indonesia was hit by the depreciation of the rupiah, weaker than expected economic growth and a presidential election. In Malaysia, the crashes of Malaysia Airlines MH370 and MH17 contributed to a weaker demand for air travel.

Singapore also saw a slowdown as a result of the decline in these three markets, as well as China, which led to a large drop in the number of outbound visitors traveling to Southeast Asia.

Despite all these changes, LCCs across the region are expanding.

In recent years, more than 1,000 aircraft have been ordered by Southeast Asian airlines alone, particularly budget carrier leaders AirAsia and the Indonesia-based Lion Air.

Last year, VietJetAir signed a deal to buy 63 new Airbus planes for $9 billion. AirAsia is adding planes and routes. Jetstar, a budget airline owned by Australia’s flag-carrier Qantas, has been on an expansionary mode of late, and was last month rejected from setting up a new subsidiary in Hong Kong. Singapore Airlines is also experimenting with Scoot, its long-haul LCC.

The last one is a bold experiment, however. Over the years, LCCs have not had a great track record with long-haul flights.

Risks of expansion

In 2005, Oasis Hong Kong Airlines was founded and offered cheap flights to cities including London and Vancouver. But the airline went bust after three years.

"For long-haul flights, even economical passengers require minimal comfort for such long journeys,” says Jonathan Galaviz, a partner at US-based Global Market Advisors. “The low-cost airline model works best for short to medium-length flights that have high frequency, like a bus.”

However, the expansion of airlines’ capacities seems to be getting ahead of the growth in demand. Some LCCs are struggling to fill their seats.

"When the airlines placed the orders for airplanes, and decided to expand capacity, obviously, they did not know the market conditions would be so difficult,” says CAPA’s Sobie.

"The airline companies usually make their capacity decisions quite ahead of time because of the time it takes them to acquire new aircraft.

"So often what happens is that the airlines get caught because the situation changes so quickly but their asset and capacity cannot change so quickly.”

AirAsia, perhaps the region’s most successful and best-known LCC, has not managed to avoid controversy and doubts about its business plan.

A report released on June 23 by investment house GMT suggests AirAsia needs $1.9 billion in fresh capital to pay down its debt.

The report suggests the airline uses transactions linked to plane leases and maintenance with associates in the Philippines and Indonesia that are losing money, in order to shore up the cash flow of the Malaysia-based parent company. It also suggests the airline is “teetering on default”.

Not everyone agrees with these views, however. Most analysts that information provider Reuters tracks have “buy” or “strong buy” ratings on AirAsia, but the GMT report and the selling it generated on the airline’s stock is telling of how fragile these airlines can be.

In a recent interview with the Financial Times, AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes denounced the report as “rubbish” and said the airline is “doing extremely well”.

The carrier is adding both flights and planes, he said. Setbacks in some main markets last year do not necessarily mean the fundamentals of the markets are souring.

Sobie says overall it is still a “pretty healthy market, as you can still see economic growth, the increasing (size) of the middle class, and people are traveling more”.

LCCs stepped into Southeast Asia quite late, in comparison to other regions, but people have embraced the model eagerly. In the past decade, budget airlines’ share of the region’s aviation market has soared from almost nothing to 58 percent, according to CAPA.

Promising prospects

And the situation is expected to get better across the region this year. Profit margins finally started improving at the beginning of this year, Sobie says, due to lower fuel costs and better market conditions.

Among the 18 publicly traded airlines in Southeast Asia, 12 were profitable in the first quarter of 2015.

In broad strokes, the whole Asia-Pacific airline industry is still promising.

By 2034, nearly half of all global air travel will touch the Asia-Pacific region, making up an expected two-thirds of growth in the global aviation sector, said Tony Tyler, director general and CEO of the International Air Transport Association, speaking to Asia-Pacific airline industry officials in Tokyo last November.

Globalization and a rising middle class in China and other emerging Asian economies are among the factors contributing to the air travel boom.

"The growth of the low-cost carrier model over the last 10 years in Asia has been amazing,” says Galaviz from Global Market Advisors.

"These airlines have rightfully bet on the idea that Asia is in the first stages of significant growth in leisure tourism at the middle-class level.”

"Overall, I see the future of low-cost carriers as being bright, but there will be turbulence along the way from time to time.”

Concerns are often raised that LCC costs are not as low as they could be, especially as the region has some of the most expensive airports in the world, with many running out of capacity and looking for ways to expand. Cheap landing slots are hard for carriers to find.

"Some countries are expanding their airports as a response to this, but it is a very slow process … to build new airports or expand the existing ones,” says Sobie. “Over the long term, it remains a challenge.”
 
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The rise and rise of the region’s low-cost airlines

POSTED ON: May 5, 2016 | Business and Focus Asean - Featured - Southeast Asia | By: Jennifer Meszaros
Low-cost airlines have revolutionised Southeast Asian travel. Focus Asean examines the rise and rise of the region’s no-frills carriers

Gone are the days of high airfares and limited travel choice. For the past 15 years, Southeast Asia’s low-cost airlines have been remodelling the region’s aviation landscape, transcending national boundaries and bringing affordable travel to the masses.

Today, a staggering 23 low-cost carriers (LCCs) crowd the hotly contested sector. Moreover, two-thirds of all regional airline seats are on LCCs, illustrating the demand for budget-friendly travel options.

“LCCs came quite by chance,” explained Shukor Yusof, founder of Malaysia-based aviation research firm Endau Analytics. “When Tony Fernandes bought AirAsia from DRB Hicom back in 2001, the airline had two aircraft and was on the brink of bankruptcy with some $10m plus debts. Fernandes and his partners took a huge gamble and won – big time. They had the vision and support from the Malaysian government, and were able to revolutionise discount air travel in Southeast Asia.”

AirAsia’s gamble certainly paid off. Not only has the carrier succeeded in shaking up the industry with its low-cost, no-frills strategy but it also pioneered the model of setting up cross-border ventures in order to circumvent market regulations on ownership control.

By settling for a minority stake, AirAsia has expanded operations outside its home market with operating units in both Thailand and Indonesia. In recent years, the carrier has partnered with airlines and investors to create affiliates in the Philippines, India and Japan.

“Asean is quite fortunate, because of the phenomenon of AirAsia,” said Kris Kosmala, Asia-Pacific’s managing director of Quintiq, a multinational company that provides IT solutions for various industries, including aviation. “It showed that it can compete against Malaysia’s flag carrier and grow the airline rapidly in [the] number of planes and destinations. With good capital base and confidence of the capital vendors, as well as airplane leasing companies, their management demonstrated what can be achieved, in a relatively short span of time.”

Kosmala believes the savvy carrier has provided a template for others, and Malaysia-based aviation professional Lim Ben-Jie agrees. “Soon enough, other parties were keen to hop on the bandwagon when AirAsia proved to be a viable and sustainable business model,” he said.

Now, dozens of low-cost airlines are seeking to cash in on a burgeoning middle-class and first-time flyer market. However, it is not all about cheap fares and bare-bone amenities. Kosmala states that low prices alone “lead nowhere” and do not create “a long-lasting customer feeling of being uniquely valuable”.


LCC penetration rate in Southeast Asia
“Having the right strategy, the right equipment and strong management are among the key criteria of any successful airlines and it applies to LCCs too,” added Yusof.

With a diverse portfolio of 18 destinations across eight countries and territories including Australia, China and Japan, and an operating profit of $13m at the end of 2015, Singapore-based Scoot is an operator that seems to be getting it right.

In just three years since launching, the carrier has the distinction of being one of the few Asean-based carriers that operate in the medium- to long-haul segment with a widebody fleet.

“Traditionally, LCCs have tended to operate from point to point using homogenous narrowbody fleets. But as more consumers get used to travelling by low-cost carriers, their travelling patterns and needs have evolved over time,” Campbell Wilson, chief executive officer of Scoot, told Focus Asean.

“The injection of widebody aircraft into LCC fleets… can be seen as a natural response to this phenomena – to provide carriers further route options, more flexibility in capacity deployment and consumers more product choices,” said Wilson.

Scoot’s strategy echoes a shift in market dynamics. According to the Sydney-based Centre for Aviation (CAPA), five Asean LCCs now have an all-widebody fleet, while two – Cebu Pacific Air (CEB) and LionAir – operate widebody aircraft alongside predominately narrowbody fleets.

Southeast Asia’s low-cost airlines
In total, Southeast Asia’s LCCs ended 2015 with 610 aircraft, with 1,100-plus planes on order. Most are new generation narrowbody aircraft, typically used for short- to medium-haul travel. But, according to a CAPA report, signs show that there has been greater capacity growth in medium- and long-haul markets that connect Southeast Asia with other regions. The same report said that LCC growth within the region slowed last year.

“For the first time since the birth of LCCs in Southeast Asia 15 years ago there was a drop in the LCC penetration rate within Southeast Asia,” it said. “The narrowbody segment grew by a relatively modest 9% in 2015.”

2016 would likely experience a similar trend, said CAPA, “with relatively slow LCC capacity growth within Southeast Asia and more rapid growth on routes connecting Southeast Asia with other regions in Asia-Pacific”. This spells good news for Scoot, which is transitioning to an all-Boeing 737 Dreamliner fleet and adding destinations to the Middle East and India.


Campbell Wilson, CEO of Scoot
“Carriers such as AirAsia X, Scoot and Cebu Pacific are revolutionising long-haul travel, which has enabled travel beyond Asean shores while opening opportunities for travellers outside of Asean to venture into Southeast Asia, or to use Asean as a transit point to other destinations,” said Ben-Jie.

A closer look at Cebu Pacific Air reveals another well-positioned LCC, which has experienced rapid growth in recent years. Last year, the carrier flew 18.4 million passengers, representing an increase of 9% from the previous year.

“CEB is always looking for opportunities to serve regions with large Filipino communities, such as Hawaii in the US,” explained Atty. JR Mantaring, the airline’s vice-president for corporate affairs. “We also remain interested in mountingadditional flights to key destinations in the Middle East.”

Catering to three to four million-plus overseas Filipino workers, on top of its home market of 102 million, Cebu currently operates a fleet of 57 aircraft to 30 international and 34 domestic destinations. According to CAPA, CEB is Southeast Asia’s third-largest LCC group, behind AirAsia and Lion.

“Today, CEB operates the most flights, most frequencies and seats from the Philippines to the Asean,” said Mantaring. “CEB will continue to review expansion plans, mount additional frequencies to meet growing demand in emerging markets, and continue to offer the lowest fares to the widest low-cost network to and from the Philippines”.

Looking into the future of the sky, Cebu is set to take delivery of 33 more narrowbody jets – three new Airbus 320 and 30 Airbus A321neos – as well as 16 smaller ATR 72-600s.

However, as Asean’s ‘open skies’ policy – the region’s long-awaited single aviation market – continues to take shape, Mantaring sees opportunity on the horizon. “With open skies, CEB can add more flights to and from key destinations in Asean, to meet the growing travel demand within the region,” said Mantaring. “Subject to regulatory approvals, the agreement further allows carriers to upgrade its Asean flights to wide-bodied aircraft and increase capacity without the need for air talks. This streamlined process will enable CEB to focus on expanding its operations, stimulating passenger traffic, and improving customer experience rather than spending valuable resources on negotiating for additional air rights.”

While the agreement is still a work in process, Ben-Jie agrees that deregulation and liberalisation has its benefits. “Many more routes will witness a fall in fares soon with the onset of liberalisation in Asean. Needless to say, traffic will likewise increase as more travellers can opt for air travel and the added frequency bodes well for business travellers.”

Until such a time, Mantaring said it’s nothing but bright skies for the region’s LCCs, and Yusof agrees, saying: “Low-cost air travel is no longer a fad and is here to stay and grow.”
 
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Friday, July 3, 2015, 10:23
Low costs, but high ambitions
By PEARL LIU in Hong Kong
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A woman walks past an AirAsia advertisement in Kuala Lumpur on Aug 20, 2014. The Malaysian-based airline is one of several low-cost carriers in the region that is adding new flights, increasing capacity and buying new aircraft.(AFP)

The Idul Fitri holiday in Indonesia marks a busy time of the year for travel. Lasting most of July in 2015, the celebration comes after the fasting month of Ramadan and sees millions of Indonesians returning to their home villages, leading to soaring demand for flight tickets.

This year, AirAsia, one of the best-known low-cost carriers (LCCs) in the region, is adding as many as 90 extra flights and 16,200 seats to cater for demand in Indonesia. Selling more tickets should help the Malaysia-based airline shore up its profitability.

Much like their full-service peers, LCCs in Asia are struggling to be profitable, even as they expand their footprint and the number of routes on offer.

Airlines around the world are finding their way back in the black after years of difficulties, thanks to streamlined operations and lower costs — not least of oil. In Asia, this search for profits has been harder.

The Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (CAPA), an industry consultancy based in Sydney, says 11 out of a total of 18 Southeast Asian publicly traded airlines reported unprofitable operations and five of the remaining seven saw a reduction in operation profits in 2014.

"Last year, the environment in some countries of the region was quite tough,” says Brendan Sobie, chief analyst at CAPA. “The demand had a bit of a hiccup last year because of the (changing) situation.”

Thailand’s economy, for example, was set back by a prolonged period of political instability. Indonesia was hit by the depreciation of the rupiah, weaker than expected economic growth and a presidential election. In Malaysia, the crashes of Malaysia Airlines MH370 and MH17 contributed to a weaker demand for air travel.

Singapore also saw a slowdown as a result of the decline in these three markets, as well as China, which led to a large drop in the number of outbound visitors traveling to Southeast Asia.

Despite all these changes, LCCs across the region are expanding.

In recent years, more than 1,000 aircraft have been ordered by Southeast Asian airlines alone, particularly budget carrier leaders AirAsia and the Indonesia-based Lion Air.

Last year, VietJetAir signed a deal to buy 63 new Airbus planes for $9 billion. AirAsia is adding planes and routes. Jetstar, a budget airline owned by Australia’s flag-carrier Qantas, has been on an expansionary mode of late, and was last month rejected from setting up a new subsidiary in Hong Kong. Singapore Airlines is also experimenting with Scoot, its long-haul LCC.

The last one is a bold experiment, however. Over the years, LCCs have not had a great track record with long-haul flights.

Risks of expansion

In 2005, Oasis Hong Kong Airlines was founded and offered cheap flights to cities including London and Vancouver. But the airline went bust after three years.

"For long-haul flights, even economical passengers require minimal comfort for such long journeys,” says Jonathan Galaviz, a partner at US-based Global Market Advisors. “The low-cost airline model works best for short to medium-length flights that have high frequency, like a bus.”

However, the expansion of airlines’ capacities seems to be getting ahead of the growth in demand. Some LCCs are struggling to fill their seats.

"When the airlines placed the orders for airplanes, and decided to expand capacity, obviously, they did not know the market conditions would be so difficult,” says CAPA’s Sobie.

"The airline companies usually make their capacity decisions quite ahead of time because of the time it takes them to acquire new aircraft.

"So often what happens is that the airlines get caught because the situation changes so quickly but their asset and capacity cannot change so quickly.”

AirAsia, perhaps the region’s most successful and best-known LCC, has not managed to avoid controversy and doubts about its business plan.

A report released on June 23 by investment house GMT suggests AirAsia needs $1.9 billion in fresh capital to pay down its debt.

The report suggests the airline uses transactions linked to plane leases and maintenance with associates in the Philippines and Indonesia that are losing money, in order to shore up the cash flow of the Malaysia-based parent company. It also suggests the airline is “teetering on default”.

Not everyone agrees with these views, however. Most analysts that information provider Reuters tracks have “buy” or “strong buy” ratings on AirAsia, but the GMT report and the selling it generated on the airline’s stock is telling of how fragile these airlines can be.

In a recent interview with the Financial Times, AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes denounced the report as “rubbish” and said the airline is “doing extremely well”.

The carrier is adding both flights and planes, he said. Setbacks in some main markets last year do not necessarily mean the fundamentals of the markets are souring.

Sobie says overall it is still a “pretty healthy market, as you can still see economic growth, the increasing (size) of the middle class, and people are traveling more”.

LCCs stepped into Southeast Asia quite late, in comparison to other regions, but people have embraced the model eagerly. In the past decade, budget airlines’ share of the region’s aviation market has soared from almost nothing to 58 percent, according to CAPA.

Promising prospects

And the situation is expected to get better across the region this year. Profit margins finally started improving at the beginning of this year, Sobie says, due to lower fuel costs and better market conditions.

Among the 18 publicly traded airlines in Southeast Asia, 12 were profitable in the first quarter of 2015.

In broad strokes, the whole Asia-Pacific airline industry is still promising.

By 2034, nearly half of all global air travel will touch the Asia-Pacific region, making up an expected two-thirds of growth in the global aviation sector, said Tony Tyler, director general and CEO of the International Air Transport Association, speaking to Asia-Pacific airline industry officials in Tokyo last November.

Globalization and a rising middle class in China and other emerging Asian economies are among the factors contributing to the air travel boom.

"The growth of the low-cost carrier model over the last 10 years in Asia has been amazing,” says Galaviz from Global Market Advisors.

"These airlines have rightfully bet on the idea that Asia is in the first stages of significant growth in leisure tourism at the middle-class level.”

"Overall, I see the future of low-cost carriers as being bright, but there will be turbulence along the way from time to time.”

Concerns are often raised that LCC costs are not as low as they could be, especially as the region has some of the most expensive airports in the world, with many running out of capacity and looking for ways to expand. Cheap landing slots are hard for carriers to find.

"Some countries are expanding their airports as a response to this, but it is a very slow process … to build new airports or expand the existing ones,” says Sobie. “Over the long term, it remains a challenge.”

I hated people to salute with their left hand, it is actually quite disrespect to do so because you always salute with your right hand, regardless on the form (british or American) you only salute with left hand when your right hand is "decommissioned"
 
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12 Feb 2016 // Airline Analysis // Comments OFF

VietJetAir reaches 19 million passengers; has ordered almost 100 A320-series aircraft

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In March 2015, VietJetAir took delivery of its first A321, which also happened to be the 9,000th Airbus aircraft to be delivered. At the end of 2015, VietJetAir was operating 28 aircraft, 25 A320s and three A321s according to Airbus data. The airline has orders for 88 further aircraft to be delivered in the coming years comprising four A320ceos, 21 A321ceos, 42 A320neos and 21 A321neos.

Launched in late 2011, VietJetAir has established itself as Vietnam’s second biggest airline after state-owned Vietnam Airlines. In the domestic market the LCC is now almost as big as its older rival and offers around twice as many seats as the third largest carrier, Jetstar Pacific Airlines, which is majority-owned by Vietnam Airlines. At the end of 2015, VietJetAir’s fleet comprised 28 aircraft according to Airbus data, 25 180-seat A320s and three 230-seat A321s. Its first A321, which it received in March 2015, was the 9000th Airbus delivered to an airline. Out of an order for 99 Airbus narrow-body aircraft the airline has so far received 11. More recently the airline celebrated another major milestone. At the end of January, VietJetAir carried its 19 millionth passenger, travelling between Ho Chi Minh City and Thanh Hoa. It has taken just over four years to reach this figure.

Ho Chi Minh City – Hanoi route dominates
A closer look at the airline’s schedule data shows the importance of the route between Vietnam’s two major cities, Ho Chi Minh City (formerly known as Saigon, hence its IATA code of SGN) and Hanoi. This airport pair is served with more than 20 daily flights in each direction, with the first flight departing Ho Chi Minh City at 06:00, while the first flight of the day from Hanoi departs at 05:35. A total of 11 routes are served with more than 14 weekly flights. Of these nine are from Ho Chi Minh City and three are from Hanoi (highlighted in light green), with the route between the two airports counted twice.

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Source: OAG Schedules Analyser for w/c 15 February 2015.

International services growing slowly
VietJetAir currently operates just eight international routes, five from Ho Chi Minh City and three from Hanoi. However, all five are in different countries; Myanmar, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Thailand. A new thrice-weekly service between Hanoi and Taipei launched (just in time for Chinese New Year) on 1 February. At present there appear to be no plans to expand the airline’s international network. The following table summarises the airline’s international network and indicating the weekly frequency on each route.

Destination Ho Chi Minh City (SGN) Hanoi (HAN)
Bangkok Suvarnabhumi (BKK) 14 7
Seoul Incheon (ICN) 7 7
Yangon (RGN) 5
Singapore (SIN) 7
Taipei Taoyuan (TPE) 7 3
Source: OAG Schedules Analyser for w/c 15 February 2016.
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On 23 May 2014, VietJetAir began service to Singapore, the LCC’s second international destination after Bangkok. The new service was celebrated with this delightful cake at Changi Airport.

In total the airline operates almost 40 routes involving 17 airports in Vietnam and five outside of the country. Destinations no longer served include Hangzhou in China and Siem Reap in Cambodia. anna.aero estimates that with the airline’s current network and seat capacity it seems likely that the 20-million passenger milestone will be reached in a matter of weeks, possibly in early March.

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On 31 January VietJetAir reached its latest milestone – 19 million passengers. The lucky passenger, Mr. Nguyen Chi Duc, received free flights on the airline for a year when he landed at Tho Xuan Airport which serves the city of Thanh Hoa on flight VJ360 from Ho Chi Minh City.


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I hated people to salute with their left hand, it is actually quite disrespect to do so because you always salute with your right hand, regardless on the form (british or American) you only salute with left hand when your right hand is "decommissioned"
 
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The problem with low cost airline is always a safety concern. So no, I will not be traveling with Viet Air anytime
 
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The problem with low cost airline is always a safety concern. So no, I will not be traveling with Viet Air anytime

Chinese tourists choose AirAsia a lot. To come KL, we choose AirAsia too. Malaysia Airlines isn't LCC.

Vietjet Air has not any destination in China. You have no chance.

LCC most usage aircrafts are Airbus A320, A321... Vietjet Air fleet average age is 3 year old

Vietjet Air pilots
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Chinese tourists choose AirAsia a lot. To come KL, we choose AirAsia too. Malaysia Airlines isn't LCC.

Vietjet Air has not any destination in China. You have no chance.

LCC most usage aircrafts are Airbus A320, A321... Vietjet Air fleet average age is 3 year old

Vietjet Air pilots
ngam-nu-phi-cong-han-quoc-xinh-dep-tren-duong-bay-vn-hinh-3.jpg


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3 years old, aircraft still need regular maintenance.

A320 and 321 are not new airplanes. It is refitted.
 
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I hated people to salute with their left hand, it is actually quite disrespect to do so because you always salute with your right hand, regardless on the form (british or American) you only salute with left hand when your right hand is "decommissioned"

LOL:o:, that's new to me:p:. I really don't care as long as they don't give the middle finger to me :D
 
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3 years old, aircraft still need regular maintenance.

A320 and 321 are not new airplanes. It is refitted.

Both A320 and A321 are still rolling out of factory brand new, as of 2016, there are 400 A320/A321ceo order yet to make by airbus..

You don't do maintenance on new aircraft, you do checks. Check are a bit different then overhaul, which check can be turn around from immediately (A Check) to 20 Days (D Checks) while Overhaul usually ground the aircraft for months. If faults are found in checks, most likely that would be manufacturer fault.

New Aircraft usually does not require overhaul, only after a few thousand flight hours and a few thousand cycles.

Chinese tourists choose AirAsia a lot. To come KL, we choose AirAsia too. Malaysia Airlines isn't LCC.

Vietjet Air has not any destination in China. You have no chance.

LCC most usage aircrafts are Airbus A320, A321... Vietjet Air fleet average age is 3 year old

Vietjet Air pilots
ngam-nu-phi-cong-han-quoc-xinh-dep-tren-duong-bay-vn-hinh-3.jpg


IMG_9606.JPG


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Regional Airlines is a good way for new flight line pilot to gain experience and log hours. That is the one of the two way to become line captain for larger airlines (The other being flying cargos)

The pay for regional flight crew is crap tho, it's usually 1/4 of what they pay in larger airline alliance (Like Qantas or United) I have a friend who work for jetblue as FO and he earn a lot less than what I got in the military. And you work 12 hours shift in regional airlines.

LOL:o:, that's new to me:p:. I really don't care as long as they don't give the middle finger to me :D

oh well........

If i remember correctly, some old naval tradition do salute people with middle finger.
 
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And I thought this thread was about aircraft carriers. :P
 
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Both A320 and A321 are still rolling out of factory brand new, as of 2016, there are 400 A320/A321ceo order yet to make by airbus..

You don't do maintenance on new aircraft, you do checks. Check are a bit different then overhaul, which check can be turn around from immediately (A Check) to 20 Days (D Checks) while Overhaul usually ground the aircraft for months. If faults are found in checks, most likely that would be manufacturer fault.

New Aircraft usually does not require overhaul, only after a few thousand flight hours and a few thousand cycles.

Not according to this

https://www.planespotters.net/production-list/Airbus/A320

Even the A320 from Air Canada fleet are refitted ones from earlier production. Which is not necessarily a bad thing as new electronics are put in, etc. They don't buy brand new off the factory as of 2016. Vietnam is a very poor country compare to Canada so I highly doubt the A320 planes are built new out of the Boeing factor. Most likely the core of the airplane is intact with Boeing making upgrades to electronics, entertainment and newer engines.
 
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Let check with the Airbus A320 that delivered to Vietjet Air in 11 Mar 2015, its first flight in Feb 2015, age 1.2 year today.
 
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Not according to this

https://www.planespotters.net/production-list/Airbus/A320

Even the A320 from Air Canada fleet are refitted ones from earlier production. Which is not necessarily a bad thing as new electronics are put in, etc. They don't buy brand new off the factory as of 2016. Vietnam is a very poor country compare to Canada so I highly doubt the A320 planes are built new out of the Boeing factor. Most likely the core of the airplane is intact with Boeing making upgrades to electronics, entertainment and newer engines.

Not according to this from Airbus itself

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/p...-on-order-from-airbus-completes-first-flight/

VietJetAir’s first A320 on order from Airbus has reached a new production milestone, with the aircraft having successfully performed its first flight in Toulouse, France. Appearing in its colourful livery, the aircraft now enters the final acceptance phase prior to delivery to VietJetAir by the end of 2014.

This A320 is the first of up to 100 of the best-selling single aisle aircraft that will be acquired by the airline under a deal finalised in February this year. The acquisition plan covers firm orders with Airbus for 63 aircraft, plus 30 purchase rights. In addition the airline will lease seven more aircraft from third party lessors.

The aircraft will join an existing fleet of 16 leased A320s at the fast-growing carrier and will be operated on the airline’s expanding network of domestic and regional services.

Vietjet air order new A320 direct from Airbus, as they called it "New Production Milestone". Just because of Air Canada buy refit for whatever reason, that does not mean VietJet have to buy refit too.

By the way, you don't order refit from Airbus, they don't sell them, you order from brokerage company, usually either the airlines that own it themselves or financial asset recovery firm if you buy it from defunct airlines.
 
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