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Very detailed analysis on Kashmir issue by military experts of Pakistan.
Abdullah Gul raises avery important point about brinkmanship and how military posturing could be combined with a diplomatic effort for a better response.

Well since the last thread was highjacked and shut down by usual kiite crowd. Here is the new one with the link attached.
 
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I think the present IK administration is not right in totally ignoring military aspect in the whole Kashmir situation. The diplomatic needs to be combined with a military pressure as well.

Blockage of water and fulfilment of akhand bharat dream is also a looming threat.
 
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We just need 10 million chinese troops to start urinating from ladakh
 
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Good diplomacy is what Modi has done. Visited several countries in one go. Sat face to face with world leaders.

Good diplomacy is what Zarif has done. Threatened to block all global supply in strait of Hormuz and Persian gulf. And actually went ahead and withheld British tanker.

THAT IS GOOD DIPLOMACY

You clearly are a fool if you are so gullible to fall for Shah Mehmood Qureshi's lollipops and visuals that are intended for domestic consumption only.
He is a fool they are just doing good diplomacy.
 
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Good diplomacy is what Modi has done. Visited several countries in one go. Sat face to face with world leaders.

Good diplomacy is what Zarif has done. Threatened to block all global supply in strait of Hormuz and Persian gulf. And actually went ahead and withheld British tanker.

THAT IS GOOD DIPLOMACY

You clearly are a fool if you are so gullible to fall for Shah Mehmood Qureshi's lollipops and visuals that are intended for domestic consumption only.
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Good diplomacy is what Modi has done. Visited several countries in one go. Sat face to face with world leaders.

Good diplomacy is what Zarif has done. Threatened to block all global supply in strait of Hormuz and Persian gulf. And actually went ahead and withheld British tanker.

THAT IS GOOD DIPLOMACY

You clearly are a fool if you are so gullible to fall for Shah Mehmood Qureshi's lollipops and visuals that are intended for domestic consumption only.
I have a very good answer for you but I won't post it on an open forum.
 
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That exactly is the problem in Pakistan. There is always some sort of hidden agenda on behest of West either by carrot or by stick. Like PM Gillani's statement you keep doing drone strikes we will keep protesting in Zardari era.

There is always some despot selling out his country to the West.
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I have a very good answer for you but I won't post it on an open forum.
 
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That exactly is the problem in Pakistan. There is always some sort of hidden agenda on behest of West either by carrot or by stick. Like PM Gillani's statement you keep doing drone strikes we will keep protesting in Zardari era.

There is always some despot selling out his country to the West.
hayseeyat Kay mutabiq hee diplomacy hoo saktee hay hum nay Tau 4th gen war main apnee hayseeyat say hazar guna
Barre soormaon ko giraya Hay your diplomacy is as good as your economic and your geostrategic utility look at Iran it's on the verge of collapse look at India the size of it's market a member of g7 it's utility against China still look at what
Trump told him " I am here" on his face if you could understand diplomatic language you would have appreciated it. If it's not a diplomatic success for an insignificant economy then what is? India is a g7 member and
They used that opportunity for diplomacy From France they are buying arm's worth 10s of billions of dollars from Russia they are buying arm's parts services worth tens of billions of dollars. who defeated USA in Afghanistan? if we don't give them face saving they will ruin our economy like Iran which you foolishly quoted as an example. They can't buy medicine now
We should do everything to preserve our economy and our unity for a long drawn 4th
gen war( which we are good at and can win) with India and we will need support from all quarters for that we don't want USA fully behind them so

sorry for an incoherent and clumsy post i am posting via a useless mobile


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Back in the 2000s when Russia was bombing the hell out of Georgia, the Georgian president was also talking to several world leaders including that of NATO. No one did anything more than lip service.

Pakistan is on the right track. Modi should be encouraged to travel a lot more.
 
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India is a g7 member and
They used that opportunity for diplomacy

India the size of it's market a member of g7 it's utility against China still look at what

India is not a member of G7. India was invited, so was Senegal and Burkino Faso. Iran even arrived without a G7 invitation. Question is Why was Imran not invited, when we are daily assured by the think tankers of PDF how India failed at isolating Pakistan. When Pakistan is talking about genocide, ethnic cleaning, Nazis, hitler and the ubiquitous nuclear flash-point and a world nuclear winter for the whole world.

You talk about India's utility against China. Surely the most OBVIOUS CONSISTENT AND STRIKING utility is that of Pakistan against India that China has used for 50 YEARS (As did the USA for 30 years showering free money and weaponry on Pakistan because India would not accept US hegemony) . Pakistan is China's cats paw against India to keep India busy and offer no competition to China in Asia. Pakistan has played that role for China and yet India is accused of being created as a counter weight to China.
India is nobodies counterweight. Xi and Modi will have their biannual summit at Varanasi in October. He will be the Chief guest of Putin at Vladivostok and keynote speaker for the development of Eastern Russia where Russia wants Indian conglomerates for joint development
 
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India is not a member of G7. India was invited, so was Senegal and Burkino Faso. Iran even arrived without a G7 invitation. Question is Why was Imran not invited, when we are daily assured by the think tankers of PDF how India failed at isolating Pakistan. When Pakistan is talking about genocide, ethnic cleaning, Nazis, hitler and the ubiquitous nuclear flash-point and a world nuclear winter for the whole world.

You talk about India's utility against China. Surely the most OBVIOUS CONSISTENT AND STRIKING utility is that of Pakistan against India that China has used for 50 YEARS (As did the USA for 30 years showering free money and weaponry on Pakistan because India would not accept US hegemony) . Pakistan is China's cats paw against India to keep India busy and offer no competition to China in Asia. Pakistan has played that role for China and yet India is accused of being created as a counter weight to China.
India is nobodies counterweight. Xi and Modi will have their biannual summit at Varanasi in October. He will be the Chief guest of Putin at Vladivostok and keynote speaker for the development of Eastern Russia where Russia wants Indian conglomerates for joint development
What a grade A clown you are, despite having the name of an intelligent man in your avatar profile.

Hindu India has ONE job. That job was given to it by the British. That job is to stop Muslims from flourishing, either as Pakistan or as a reborn Muslim India. It serves the eternal interests of many of your masters that you use overwhelming numbers of bhakts at home and abroad to suppress Pakistani interests. The fact that China has risen to prominence in the last 50 years gives India a secondary function but please take your head out of your own arsee, breathe some oxygen and remember what Hindu India's true purpose is. If Pakistan suddenly ceased to exist, you'd be about as useful to the world of white men as an overpopulated Zimbabwe.
 
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