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Lockheed says US may take "fresh look" at its India F-16 plan

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Trump has criticised US companies that have moved manufacturing overseas and which then sell their products back to the US.

US defence firm Lockheed Martin wants to push ahead with plans to move production of its F-16 combat jets to India, but understands President Donald Trump's administration may want to take a "fresh look" at the proposal.

With no more orders for the F-16 from the Pentagon, Lockheed plans to use its Fort Worth, Texas plant instead to produce the fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that the United States Air Force is transitioning to.

Lockheed would switch F-16 production to India, as long as the Indian government agrees to order hundreds of the planes that its air force desperately needs.

Trump has criticised US companies that have moved manufacturing overseas and which then sell their products back to the US. In his first few weeks in office, he has pushed companies, from automakers to pharmaceutical firms, to produce more in the United States.

In Lockheed's case, however, the plan is to build the F-16 to equip the Indian Air Force, and not sell them back into the United States.

Lockheed said it has been talking to Trump's transition and governance teams as well as the U.S. Congress for several months on its plans, including the proposed sale of F-16 planes to India, a spokesman told Reuters in Washington.

"We've briefed the Administration on the current proposal, which was supported by the Obama Administration as part of a broader cooperative dialogue with the Government of India," the spokesman said.

"We understand that the Trump Administration will want to take a fresh look at some of these programs, and we stand prepared to support that effort to ensure that any deal of this importance is properly aligned with US policy priorities."

ndia is expected to spend $250 billion on defence modernisation over the next decade, analysts say, and there is concern that a veto on making the F-16 in India would not only hit Lockheed, but also threaten other military contracts to come up in India for Boeing, Northrop and Raytheon.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment on the plan to build the plane in India.

No threat to US jobs
Lockheed has said that moving F-16 assembly to India would create 200 engineering jobs in the United States to help support the production line in India.

It has also said that about 800 workers in the United States making the non-Lockheed parts for the F-16 would keep their jobs if construction shifts to India.

"We are offering to make the F-16 Block-70 aircraft with a local partner in India. This is an offer exclusive to India," Randall L. Howard, head of F-16 business development, told Reuters ahead of India's biggest air show beginning in Bengaluru next week.

In India, the F-16 is up against SAAB's Gripen combat aircraft, which the Swedish firm has also offered to make locally, as Prime Minister Narendra Modi drives a Make-in-India campaign to build a domestic aerospace industry and reduce costly imports.

The Indian government is expected to decide this year on which company will build a single-engine fighter plane, in collaboration with a local partner. A defence official said the process was at a very early stage.

The Indian air force alone needs 200-250 fighters over the next 10 years, its former chief Arup Raha said before he left office in December.


Defence ties between India and the United States have grown rapidly, with U.S. arms sales of more than $4 billion in 2012-15, mostly under government-to-government foreign military sales, upstaging long-term supplier Russia and even Israel.

Lockheed's executive director for international business development, Abhay Paranjape, said his team has met with representatives from 40 defence and aviation firms in India to help build the ancillary network for the aircraft assembly programme.

"We want to be prepared, that's why we started the ground work," he said, adding Lockheed has also scouted possible factory sites in India. Lockheed has a joint venture with India's Tata Advanced Systems Ltd to make airframe components for the C-130J Super Hercules transport plane and the S-92 helicopter.

"The capability for building components exists here, it's been proven with the C-130s. The challenge now is to pick the right partners," Paranjape said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-its-india-f-16-plan/articleshow/57060607.cms

@MilSpec @nair @Abingdonboy @A.P. Richelieu @Vergennes
 
If Lockheed moves the factory, USAF needs to import their spare parts from India.
Those jobs are lost.

If Lockheed threatens to close the factory, manufacturing jobs might be lost at other companies,
but not all will be lost since any Gripen order also results in US jobs.
It is also hard for Lockheed to argue that India will be able to sell MII F-16s elsewhere,
if they do not see it is viable to keep production running in the US.
 
Lockheed says US may take "fresh look" at its India F-16 plan

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Trump has criticised US companies that have moved manufacturing overseas and which then sell their products back to the US.

US defence firm Lockheed Martin wants to push ahead with plans to move production of its F-16 combat jets to India, but understands President Donald Trump's administration may want to take a "fresh look" at the proposal.

With no more orders for the F-16 from the Pentagon, Lockheed plans to use its Fort Worth, Texas plant instead to produce the fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that the United States Air Force is transitioning to.

Lockheed would switch F-16 production to India, as long as the Indian government agrees to order hundreds of the planes that its air force desperately needs.

Trump has criticised US companies that have moved manufacturing overseas and which then sell their products back to the US. In his first few weeks in office, he has pushed companies, from automakers to pharmaceutical firms, to produce more in the United States.

In Lockheed's case, however, the plan is to build the F-16 to equip the Indian Air Force, and not sell them back into the United States.

Lockheed said it has been talking to Trump's transition and governance teams as well as the U.S. Congress for several months on its plans, including the proposed sale of F-16 planes to India, a spokesman told Reuters in Washington.

"We've briefed the Administration on the current proposal, which was supported by the Obama Administration as part of a broader cooperative dialogue with the Government of India," the spokesman said.

"We understand that the Trump Administration will want to take a fresh look at some of these programs, and we stand prepared to support that effort to ensure that any deal of this importance is properly aligned with US policy priorities."

ndia is expected to spend $250 billion on defence modernisation over the next decade, analysts say, and there is concern that a veto on making the F-16 in India would not only hit Lockheed, but also threaten other military contracts to come up in India for Boeing, Northrop and Raytheon.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment on the plan to build the plane in India.

No threat to US jobs
Lockheed has said that moving F-16 assembly to India would create 200 engineering jobs in the United States to help support the production line in India.

It has also said that about 800 workers in the United States making the non-Lockheed parts for the F-16 would keep their jobs if construction shifts to India.

"We are offering to make the F-16 Block-70 aircraft with a local partner in India. This is an offer exclusive to India," Randall L. Howard, head of F-16 business development, told Reuters ahead of India's biggest air show beginning in Bengaluru next week.

In India, the F-16 is up against SAAB's Gripen combat aircraft, which the Swedish firm has also offered to make locally, as Prime Minister Narendra Modi drives a Make-in-India campaign to build a domestic aerospace industry and reduce costly imports.

The Indian government is expected to decide this year on which company will build a single-engine fighter plane, in collaboration with a local partner. A defence official said the process was at a very early stage.

The Indian air force alone needs 200-250 fighters over the next 10 years, its former chief Arup Raha said before he left office in December.


Defence ties between India and the United States have grown rapidly, with U.S. arms sales of more than $4 billion in 2012-15, mostly under government-to-government foreign military sales, upstaging long-term supplier Russia and even Israel.

Lockheed's executive director for international business development, Abhay Paranjape, said his team has met with representatives from 40 defence and aviation firms in India to help build the ancillary network for the aircraft assembly programme.

"We want to be prepared, that's why we started the ground work," he said, adding Lockheed has also scouted possible factory sites in India. Lockheed has a joint venture with India's Tata Advanced Systems Ltd to make airframe components for the C-130J Super Hercules transport plane and the S-92 helicopter.

"The capability for building components exists here, it's been proven with the C-130s. The challenge now is to pick the right partners," Paranjape said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-its-india-f-16-plan/articleshow/57060607.cms

@MilSpec @nair @Abingdonboy @A.P. Richelieu @Vergennes
With the LCA production being ramped up and Rafale MII deal being finalised LM have no chance and they know it, they aren't even bringing an F-16 to Aero India (Dassualt have brought 2 Rafales).

There is no room in the IAF for this junk.
 
"We understand that the Trump Administration will want to take a fresh look at some of these programs, and we stand prepared to support that effort to ensure that any deal of this importance is properly aligned with US policy priorities."

India can buy F16s off shelf, don't think they will move plant in India. We may see some other shocks in future as well.
 
India can buy F16s off shelf, don't think they will move plant in India. We may see some other shocks in future as well.
Well India would not entertain any such deal that didn't have the fighter made in India.


But the deal will never happen anyway, for a whole host of other reasons- the most compelling one being the fact that the IAF DOESN'T WANT THE F-16.
 
Well India would not entertain any such deal that didn't have the fighter made in India.


But the deal will never happen anyway, for a whole host of other reasons- the most compelling one being the fact that the IAF DOESN'T WANT THE F-16.

You did entertain the Rafael deal without any tech transfer didnt you when French stood their ground.

As for IAF dont want the F16, why dont they come out in open and tell the yanks on their face? We have been hearing a lot of noise as to how PAF will have to ask India about its F16s spare parts in future.
 
You did entertain the Rafael deal without any tech transfer didnt you when French stood their ground.
The Rafale deal is coming with ToT but for further news on that we have to wait until the follow-on deal is signed for >90 units (to be made in India).

As for IAF dont want the F16, why dont they come out in open and tell the yanks on their face?
The IAF have said as much and demonstrated this at every opportunity, it is the Govt of India that is entertaining the American offer for now for geopoltical reasons, perhaps they think they can get concessions elsewehere but don't you worry, the Americans will be slapped to the curb at an appropriate time.
 
"We understand that the Trump Administration will want to take a fresh look at some of these programs, and we stand prepared to support that effort to ensure that any deal of this importance is properly aligned with US policy priorities."

India can buy F16s off shelf, don't think they will move plant in India. We may see some other shocks in future as well.
Certain technology won't be shared anyway whether Russia or US..But US has already declared India as a major defense partner..
 
The Rafale deal is coming with ToT but for further news on that we have to wait until the follow-on deal is signed for >90 units (to be made in India).

Your current defense minster is on record telling that you dont have the money to buy more then initially ordered Rafale, that 125 number was just the lollypop. And no, there is no tech transfer, just units off the shelf.

The IAF have said as much and demonstrated this at every opportunity, it is the Govt of India that is entertaining the American offer for now for geopoltical reasons, perhaps they think they can get concessions elsewehere but don't you worry, the Americans will be slapped to the curb at an appropriate time.

I would love to see when India grow spine and slap yanks. Specially in current geopolitical landscape. So you are in essence agreeing that the noise that we were hearing about Pakistan will have to contact India in future for its F16s spare parts was nothing but wishful thinking by Indians?
 
Its good deal , if Indian govt accept.
 
Certain technology won't be shared anyway whether Russia or US..But US has already declared India as a major defense partner..
India is more than a major defense partner to Russia. Name one weapon that is co-developed by India and US.
 
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