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Lithography machine, Dutch minister says U.S. can’t dictate approach to China exports

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Engineers work on a Mapper semiconductor lithography machine in Delft, the Netherlands, in this undated photo. | MAPPER LITHOGRAPHY / VIA REUTERS

The U.S. shouldn’t expect the Netherlands to unquestionably adopt its approach to China export restrictions, a senior Dutch official warned, signaling a potential obstacle to the Biden administration’s trade fight.

“The Netherlands will not copy the American measures one-to-one,” Dutch Foreign Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher said in an interview with newspaper NRC published on Friday. “We make our own assessment — and we do this in consultation with partner countries such as Japan and the U.S.”

The comments marked the first time Dutch officials have publicly outlined their stance on the issue. The Biden administration is pushing for a multilateral agreement to impose restrictions on China, aiming to keep advanced chip technologies away from the country — and its military.

Schreinemacher’s statement highlighted the significant challenges the U.S. is facing in persuading allies to join its campaign. While the Netherlands and Japan share many of the U.S.’s security concerns, the two countries also see China as a major market that they would like to maintain access to.

The Netherlands are key to the struggle because the country’s ASML Holding NV is one of a handful of companies that dominate the market for semiconductor-manufacturing equipment. Its peers include Applied Materials Inc., Lam Research Corp. and KLA Corp. in the U.S., and Tokyo Electron Ltd. in Japan.

Without getting specific, Schreinemacher said that the Netherlands is likely to introduce certain export controls on China by itself. The Dutch government needs more time to decide on potential new rules, she said.

“We already have restrictions in our export licensing policy. I can imagine that we will look at semiconductors and the chip market with a more critical eye,” the minister told NRC. “We are working on that shift and I think there is a chance that it will progress.”

ASML is already restricted from selling China its extreme ultraviolet lithography machines, which are needed to make the most cutting-edge chips. But the Dutch company is still allowed to offer less sophisticated products to Chinese customers.

In early October, the Biden administration unveiled sweeping measures aimed at limiting China’s abilities to secure advanced artificial intelligence chips and semiconductor manufacturing equipment, roiling the $580 billion global chip industry.

U.S. chip-equipment makers have indicated the new rules could erase billions of dollars in sales, while ASML and Tokyo Electron have said they expect a smaller impact.

Senior U.S. officials — including Alan Estevez, the undersecretary of commerce for industry and security — are traveling to the Netherlands this month to discuss export controls. But an immediate accord isn’t expected to come out of the talks, Bloomberg News has reported.

Meanwhile, Beijing is working to ensure other countries don’t cave to U.S. demands. In a Group of 20 summit meeting on Tuesday, Chinese President Xi Jinping urged Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte to avoid disrupting global trade.

“We must oppose the politicization of economic and trade issues and maintain the stability of the global industrial chain and supply chain,” Xi told Rutte. Rutte also visited South Korea this week to discuss tech issues and deepen chip ties.

 
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As usual of the cheap american practice, asking allies not to sell but without any compensation for loss of market. Cheapskate plan which will never work.

American shall come out with a USD 50 billion compensation plan and I am sure Dutch will swiftly obey US order. :enjoy:
 
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What can they do, if Dutch dont sell the litography machines to China, they cant sell to anybody becos no one else is going to buy them on demand, then the Dutch cant sell their products and their company will become bankrupt.
 
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Dutch Resist US Call to Ban More Chip Equipment Sales to China​

  • Netherlands-based ASML dominates market for advanced machines
  • US pressing for export controls to blunt China’s capabilities
By Diederik Baazil
November 23, 2022 at 1:38 AM GMT+8

The Netherlands will defend its economic interests when it comes to the sales of chip equipment to China, a senior Dutch official said, further evidence of the country’s resistance to meekly following Washington’s attempts to cut off China from semiconductor technology.

The European country is home to ASML Holding NV, which dominates the market for one-of-a-kind, cutting-edge chipmaking equipment that has become a focus of the US government’s attempts to limit China. Dutch Foreign Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher told lawmakers on Tuesday that the Netherlands will make its own decision regarding ASML’s chip gear sales to China amid trade rule talks with the US and other allies.

 
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Dutch Resist US Call to Ban More Chip Equipment Sales to China​

  • Netherlands-based ASML dominates market for advanced machines
  • US pressing for export controls to blunt China’s capabilities
By Diederik Baazil
November 23, 2022 at 1:38 AM GMT+8

The Netherlands will defend its economic interests when it comes to the sales of chip equipment to China, a senior Dutch official said, further evidence of the country’s resistance to meekly following Washington’s attempts to cut off China from semiconductor technology.

The European country is home to ASML Holding NV, which dominates the market for one-of-a-kind, cutting-edge chipmaking equipment that has become a focus of the US government’s attempts to limit China. Dutch Foreign Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher told lawmakers on Tuesday that the Netherlands will make its own decision regarding ASML’s chip gear sales to China amid trade rule talks with the US and other allies.

Muslim majority countries should do more cooperation with China.

Especially countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Morocco, Uzbekistan, Malaysia, and Indonesia.
 
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Leading Dutch semiconductor equipment manufacturer ASML Surpasses 1,500 Employees in China​

Sep 13, 2022, 14:16pm Pandaily

The Chinese division of ASML, a leading Dutch semiconductor equipment manufacturer, announced on September 2 that it employed more than 1,500 employees in the country as of the end of August. The company also designated September 1 as its annual “ASML China Day,” upon which all domestic employees will enjoy an extra day off.

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ASML is one of the largest semiconductor equipment manufacturers in the world, providing comprehensive key equipment to complex integrated circuit manufacturers globally. In 1988, ASML delivered its first stepper to the Chinese market, and in 2000, ASML China was formally established. The company has now explored the Chinese market for more than 30 years. At present, ASML has 15 offices, 11 warehousing and logistics centers, three R&D centers, one training center and one maintenance center in China.

Bloomberg quoted people familiar with the matter in a July report, saying that Washington D.C. had put pressure on the Netherlands to prohibit ASML from selling key equipment needed to produce chips to China. According to the report, the ban proposed by Washington is to significantly broaden the range and class of chipmaking gear needed to produce a large number of chips, with the aim of preventing China from becoming a global leader in chip production.

As an internationally important production area for integrated circuits, China is a market that ASML can not ignore. According to the firm’s financial report, in the first quarter of 2022, the company sold 62 lithography systems, of which the Chinese mainland market accounted for 34%, surpassing that of South Korea and Taiwan to become its largest market for lithography systems.

In response, on July 20, Nikkei Asia reported that Peter Wennink, the CEO of ASML, told investors, “I think we need to realize that China is an important player in the semiconductor industry, especially not [only] in the matured node, but also mainstream semiconductors. It is a very significant supplier of the global markets. So we just have to be careful what we’re doing.”

In June this year, ASML also said that in order to support the growth of its business in China, it will continue to expand its Chinese team this year, with plans to recruit more than 200 employees.

 
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As usual of the cheap american practice, asking allies not to sell but without any compensation for loss of market. Cheapskate plan which will never work.

American shall come out with a USD 50 billion compensation plan and I am sure Dutch will swiftly obey US order. :enjoy:

Thing is, the technology that ASML uses in manufacturing of lithographic machine isn't theirs to begin with, it belongs to US also many of the critical components used in it are made by Germany.
 
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Thing is, the technology that ASML uses in manufacturing of lithographic machine isn't theirs to begin with, it belongs to US also many of the critical components used in it are made by Germany.
So will US sanction Holland for not complying?
 
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“Without getting specific, Schreinemacher said that the Netherlands is likely to introduce certain export controls on China by itself.”

“We already have restrictions in our export licensing policy. I can imagine that we will look at semiconductors and the chip market with a more critical eye,” the minister told NRC. “We are working on that shift and I think there is a chance that it will progress.”
 
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Soon Chinese will celebrate their achievement in lithography machine development, it is not a matter of if but when.

Thanks to US short-sighted policies, everything that US trying to block, China achieved excellence. China Space Station, Mars exploration, Beidou satellite system, 5G telecommunication, one by one things that many thought was impossible for China to make, are reality now.

More new breakthroughs will be coming out of China in future. And these will be shared by China to the World for the benefits of mankind with-out political strings attached.
 
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Thing is, the technology that ASML uses in manufacturing of lithographic machine isn't theirs to begin with, it belongs to US also many of the critical components used in it are made by Germany.

So will US sanction Holland for not complying?
ASML is pretty much dead without US tech, :lol:
 
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So will US sanction ASML? If US sanction it, can US make lithography machines to replace Dutch ones?

The Dutch don't contribute any key technologies so there is nothing to replace. The key technologies for lithography comes from the US, Germany and Japan. A lot of technology companies are incorporated in the Netherlands for tax benefits and not because of any technology contributed by the dutch. If the Dutch government acted against US interests I'm pretty sure ASML will have no option but to leave the Netherlands. For instance, the heart of the DUV or EUV machine is the light source made by Cymer in California. Although Cymer was acquired by ASML but it still has to abide by US law. ASML was created mainly through acquisitions or divesture of US firms. ASML machines depend on IP from Intel, DOE (Department of Energy), TI, Motorola to name a few. So yeah, ASML would have no choice but to leave the Netherlands the alternative is to lose its business to a consortium created by the US and like minded allies.
 
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The Dutch don't contribute any key technologies so there is nothing to replace. The key technologies for lithography comes from the US, Germany and Japan. A lot of technology companies are incorporated in the Netherlands for tax benefits and not because of any technology contributed by the dutch. If the Dutch government acted against US interests I'm pretty sure ASML will have no option but to leave the Netherlands. For instance, the heart of the DUV or EUV machine is the light source made by Cymer in California. Although Cymer was acquired by ASML but it still has to abide by US law. ASML was created mainly through acquisitions or divesture of US firms. ASML machines depend on IP from Intel, DOE (Department of Energy), TI, Motorola to name a few. So yeah, ASML would have no choice but to leave the Netherlands the alternative is to lose its business to a consortium created by the US and like minded allies.
You don't only depend on the Neatherlands, you also depend on Taiwan for chips, we'll see how far you can go to cut your nose to spite your face.
 
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