Lies . who will Pay the Price eventually ?

[Logic note]

Dear Agno ,
May be you are right , however these reports reflects the lack of confidence on the ability or the intention of Pakistani Army ..

The Pakistani death toll in recent years caused by the militants is more than from the other perceived threats, yet the country's focus isn't on the militants. The reluctance by Pakistan to move the militants to Enemy #1 among the perceived threats is putting the country at extreme risk. Even if the Pakistani people are indifferent to that situation .

may be more then anything else they need to express there intention clearly ..

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Dear Agno ,
May be you are right , however these reports reflects the lack of confidence on the ability or the intention of Pakistani Army ..

The Pakistani death toll in recent years caused by the militants is more than from the other perceived threats, yet the country's focus isn't on the militants. The reluctance by Pakistan to move the militants to Enemy #1 among the perceived threats is putting the country at extreme risk. Even if the Pakistani people are indifferent to that situation .

may be more then anything else they need to express there intention clearly ..

These are reports by vested interests, driven by their own agenda's, biases and views. If you go to Ahmed Quraishi's website you will find similar critique f the US, perhaps even more virulent. But unless one can sift fact from opinion and spin, the truth cannot be arrived at.

I have argued why I believe Roggio's article is a distortion and anti-Pakistan spin, and shown the evidence to counter his overarching claims. So far we only have 1 out of 5 leaders he claimed were falsely claimed killed. His article is therefore rubbish.

Pakistan does not have one threat, it has multiple threats facing it, including that from a hostile and aggressive neighbor in the East, that is potentially meddling in Balochistan. All threats have to be addressed, and domestic dynamics have to be catered to. The WoT cannot be won without broad political and domestic support. We see in Bajaur the result of political support for decisive military action.

 

[RabzonKhan]

I posted the statement of the Military personnel involved that claimed fiver AQ leaders killed, with their names. The only one specifically mentioned killed (who turned out not to be per Roggio) was Masri.

I also posted the statement of the official referring to Qari Hussain's death who Roggio mentions again in his comments per you. Here it is again:



Where is the categorical claim that Hussain died as Roggio claimed? I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his original post, it is quite clear that he either has limited reading comprehension, or is outright lying now.

Where are the press releases quoting the Military officials involved categorically claiming that the other people Roggio mentioned were killed?

So far it is only the instance of Masri that he is correct about, and given the fog of war, difficult conditions, that can be chalked down to poor intel. not deliberate deceit. 1 out of 5, and the rest is distortion, and spin.

So, post the rest of the military statements categorically claiming the deaths of those leaders please.

Sorry I did not read your post # 4, you posed a different article than the one is posted on Roggio’s site. Roggio’s article quotes some unnamed Pakistani security official, please check the part I have highlighted.


Pakistan has poor track record reporting deaths of senior terrorist leaders - The Long War Journal
October 5, 2008. The Pakistani military claimed Mustafa Abu Yazid, al Qaeda's senior commander in Afghanistan, was killed in a battle in the Bajaur tribal agency this summer.


Al Qaeda's commander in Afghanistan rumored killed in Pakistan - The Long War Journal
The report of Yazid's death is based on statements made by an unnamed senior Pakistani security official. Pakistani television claimed Abu Saeed al Masri was killed in fighting in Bajaur. Yazid is also known as Sheikh Saeed and Abu Saeed al Masri (the Egyptian).


Senior al Qaeda leader killed in Pakistan | Reuters
Tue Aug 12, 2008. Senior Al Qaeda commander Abu Saeed al-Masri has been killed in recent clashes with Pakistani forces in a Pakistani region near the Afghan border, a security official said on Tuesday.