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After many years since Kargil intrusion, Pakistan had not faced heavy retaliation like this from India both on the border as well as in the strategic bilateral relationships.

Looks like the new Indian Government have some tough plans for their neighbour. What is Pakistan's take on this? What will Pakistan is going to change in their military advances if this directly impacts the economical and business relationship between the two neighbours?
 
After many years since Kargil intrusion, Pakistan had not faced heavy retaliation like this from India both on the border as well as in the strategic bilateral relationships.

Looks like the new Indian Government have some tough plans for their neighbour. What is Pakistan's take on this? What will Pakistan is going to change in their military advances if this directly impacts the economical and business relationship between the two neighbours?

Provide an evidence of the 'perceived military advances' and that doesn't include your softporn media outlets.
 
Provide an evidence of the 'perceived military advances' and that doesn't include your softporn media outlets.
Pakistan Govt has requested evidence for every terrorist attack and cross border terrorism and cease fire violations, and Indian Govt has provided the same at each instance.

But problem for Pakistan is that this Indian Government is not going to provide evidence and waste time, but instead will hit hard on the bilateral relations which will hit Pakistan economically. Question in the topic is how will Pakistan torn by its own pampered terrorists cope up with the situation.
 
Pakistan Govt has requested evidence for every terrorist attack and cross border terrorism and cease fire violations, and Indian Govt has provided the same at each instance.

But problem for Pakistan is that this Indian Government is not going to provide evidence and waste time, but instead will hit hard on the bilateral relations which will hit Pakistan economically. Question in the topic is how will Pakistan torn by its own pampered terrorists cope up with the situation.

We are doing just fine economically without India. Its India running wild for MFN status not us. Indian media has a habit of blaming Pakistan from spy pigeons, camels trained by ISI, starting panic migration through SMS and recently a few mobile boosters apparently pose a grave threat to India's 'national security'. :pleasantry:

Your media drives your public narrative, that too in a country where bashing Pakistan is taken with the breakfast and cursing us in dinner, at least for those Indians who can still afford to have two meals a day.

Modi has squarely destroyed all chances of any peace by calling off the dialogue over a meeting with the Hurriyat leaders. We don't want anything to do with India either so it sorts out our problem without us getting the blame.

As far as the exchange of fire, well that is used by BJP for 'looking tough', despite the fact that it has cost them soldiers and embarrassment. The problem is your own govt which doesn't know how to run its affairs, therefore it seeks an easy way out, which is blaming us.
 
We are doing just fine economically without India. Its India running wild for MFN status not us. Indian media has a habit of blaming Pakistan from spy pigeons, camels trained by ISI, starting panic migration through SMS and recently a few mobile boosters apparently pose a grave threat to India's 'national security'. :pleasantry:

Your media drives your public narrative, that too in a country where bashing Pakistan is taken with the breakfast and cursing us in dinner, at least for those Indians who can still afford to have two meals a day.

Modi has squarely destroyed all chances of any peace by calling off the dialogue over a meeting with the Hurriyat leaders. We don't want anything to do with India either so it sorts out our problem without us getting the blame.

As far as the exchange of fire, well that is used by BJP for 'looking tough', despite the fact that it has cost them soldiers and embarrassment. The problem is your own govt which doesn't know how to run its affairs, therefore it seeks an easy way out, which is blaming us.

On the bilateral talks, I don't think your people will approve Indian Embassy in Pakistan start holding talks inside Indian Embassy in Islamabad with the Baloch leaders. It will require a lot of tolerance from Indian Government to go ahead with bilateral talks with Pakistan when Pakistan Government is blindfolded about supporting the separatist elements in Kashmir. So, rational stand from Indian Government.

And coming to economics, may be some may not be aware that Pakistan contributes 2.15 million $ import and 7.68 million $ export to indian economy, whereas India contributes 31.22 million $ for imports and 13.02 million $ for exports to Pakistan. So looks like tough days are ahead for Pakistani citizens unless their adamant government start thinking for their own people and take necessary actions to renew the bilateral ties.
 
On the bilateral talks, I don't think your people will approve Indian Embassy in Pakistan start holding talks inside Indian Embassy in Islamabad with the Baloch leaders. It will require a lot of tolerance from Indian Government to go ahead with bilateral talks with Pakistan when Pakistan Government is blindfolded about supporting the separatist elements in Kashmir. So, rational stand from Indian Government.

And coming to economics, may be some may not be aware that Pakistan contributes 2.15 million $ import and 7.68 million $ export to indian economy, whereas India contributes 31.22 million $ for imports and 13.02 million $ for exports to Pakistan. So looks like tough days are ahead for Pakistani citizens unless their adamant government start thinking for their own people and take necessary actions to renew the bilateral ties.

That's an absurd analogy you have there.

Kashmir is an Internationally recognized disputed zone . Meeting with Hurriyet leaders is our right a legitimate stakeholder in the conflict. Balochistan is none of your business, just like Assam, Nagaland, Khalistan and other separatist movements in India are none of our business. Kashmiri leaders are not separatists since Kashmir is NOT part of India, its under forceful occupation of the Indian forces.

As far as the economics is concerned, India loses billions of dollars every year, simply because we deny it the dry transit to C.Asian states and Russia. Pakistan is not dependent on trade with India, nor is India on Pakistan. Our trade is indirect and minimal which will continue regardless of Modi's stupid policies which only harm India not Pakistan. Nothing benefits Pakistan more than an Indian PM behaving like a monkey with a grenade, which is precisely what Modi is doing.
 
lol..

Hint, Shimla agreement, it is just bilateral. The 'internationalism is already gone

Shimla agreement is like Israel-Egypt peace accord, in order to maintain the status quo till a reasonable solution is found. It by no means has been De-Internationalized. The way Modi is going, it would leave Pakistan with no option but to take it back to the UN.
 
Shimla agreement is like Israel-Egypt peace accord, in order to maintain the status quo till a reasonable solution is found. It by no means has been De-Internationalized. The way Modi is going, it would leave Pakistan with no option but to take it back to the UN.

Very True, Shimla Agreement was just a Nautanki by Pakistan to save 90000 POW.
 
Shimla agreement is like Israel-Egypt peace accord, in order to maintain the status quo till a reasonable solution is found. It by no means has been De-Internationalized. The way Modi is going, it would leave Pakistan with no option but to take it back to the UN.

It says that the issue is bilateral only, and will be only be resolved without third party intervention. If Pak breaks the treaty then there will be no position left for Pakistan in the eyes of the world and the same gives us the permission to cancel the water treaty signed in 1960s.
 
We are doing just fine economically without India. Its India running wild for MFN status not us. Indian media has a habit of blaming Pakistan from spy pigeons, camels trained by ISI, starting panic migration through SMS and recently a few mobile boosters apparently pose a grave threat to India's 'national security'. :pleasantry:

MFN is been taken by its meaning in Pakistan, and they dont want India to become the " Most Favored Nation", I dont think India should mind much about that status, any way the good are being sold thru dubai, and if Pakistan is ready to pay higher price what should be our problem, But running wild???? Well there is something called honoring the commitment, during talks when the representatives of Your country commits something and goes back and say No we cannot.... That gives us the feeling, if a country cannot honor the simple commitment, how can you expect a bigger one getting fulfilled.... The entire meaning of the dialogue goes for a toss, otherwise India is not going to become a rich country the day MFN is been given by paksitan,

Your media drives your public narrative, that too in a country where bashing Pakistan is taken with the breakfast and cursing us in dinner, at least for those Indians who can still afford to have two meals a day.

Well I agree with you here, Indian media is kind of rhetoric


As far as the exchange of fire, well that is used by BJP for 'looking tough', despite the fact that it has cost them soldiers and embarrassment. The problem is your own govt which doesn't know how to run its affairs, therefore it seeks an easy way out, which is blaming us.

Exchange of fire also can be attributed the political turmoil in Pak,
 
After many years since Kargil intrusion, Pakistan had not faced heavy retaliation like this from India both on the border as well as in the strategic bilateral relationships.

Looks like the new Indian Government have some tough plans for their neighbour. What is Pakistan's take on this? What will Pakistan is going to change in their military advances if this directly impacts the economical and business relationship between the two neighbours?

what responce?-
all i see is verbal diarrhea's from india-

Yeah new indian government has some really tough plans- whining and crying like a baby- thats really tough-
 
Shimla agreement is like Israel-Egypt peace accord, in order to maintain the status quo till a reasonable solution is found. It by no means has been De-Internationalized. The way Modi is going, it would leave Pakistan with no option but to take it back to the UN.

UN main Pakistan kya kar lega aur UN india ka kya kar lega ?

UN in 1950's supported Kashmir dispute by Cold war Politics of West.
West had favored Pakistan and India did not have good relation with USSR then. That's why your resolution got passed.
Now West favoring India.
No chance of what so ever now for Pakistan for getting Kashmir.
Forget Kashmir and save Baluchistan and Fata.
 
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