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Killing thy neighbour: India, and its Border Security Force

About Korea, you are right. When the then Pakistan govt started to demarcate a few exclusive zones in the then east Pakistan for industrial development, South Korean govt sent a delegation along with their business people to visit and learn from those planned EPZs. Now, we have become so backward comparing to S. Korea.

But, we with all our economic activities are here to develop faster than many other developing countries in the region. India thinks BD is a banana republic that should become an yes man to India's whims.

It shows its desperation by killing our innocent civilians. Indians are desperate because the lands they sometimes try to grab again go back to BD hand, although they sometimes are able to steal our fish. Such a poor country is this big India!
India doesn't believe that BD is a 'banana republic', if that was the case we could have done much much worse. It isvery common for forces around the world such as the BSF to be quite brutal. They aren't exactly the saints or the professionals that the US fields, they're just men who misuse their autonomy to do their jobs. A lot of the times they do it thinking that it will give them better results-'kill a few of those a$$holes and then they'll learn/be scared'. Indian BSF is not the only force facing these issues- go to latin america n u'll find the same thing.
 
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Mauryans were taxilla punjab, dont care whether you believe it or not, already gave references of dozens of history books written by bharti writers prooving that he was from taxilla,

The people of pakistan are the traditional rulers of Bharat since aryan invasion, Bharat had been the the sponge of pakistani aggression ever since aryans from indus valley moved east. there is no such thing as bharti emperor
If your race is so superior, how come you are in the dumps?
 
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But, if there were 1000 border killings in the last ten years, how come there are millions of BD people in the poor India? Most of those died were cow smugglers from BD and not immigrants. Don't you know tens of couintries have open door for BD workers, where they would earn 5 times more than an Indian can earn?

ok so people cross fenced walls to smugle cows? and then how do they take cows over the fence?
and in the article given by your very own media they have said the girl was working in delhi.
about other countries which offer better jobs than INDIA, no such country has borders with BD from where they can easily enter in that country so poor people who dont afford Visa and travelling cost to those tens of country come to INDIA because it is cheap to come to INDIA.
i was not going to bring this to forum since i dont like to put such things in open and now also i m not bringing this here to insult BD,so i urge BD people to not take it as a offence against there nation.but now since you have forced me by denying every time. there are thousands of bangladeshi bargirls and sex workers in MUMBAI. i dont have any printed article to prove this to you but i see them everyday with my own eyes. if you ever come to mumbai just visit check naka which is entrance to mumbai and look for yourself.
you can off course bash me calling this as a proofless claim and i wont even mind it since its not going to change the fact.

i have said this repeatedly and will send once again if there are no migrants then how does BSF gets to kill those people. BSF is not going inside BD to kill them but this people come to borders to cross it. if not for better jobs then for what do they cross the borders putting in danger there lives?
i will support BSF untill it is doing things as stated by law if atall any day BSF crosses the border and goes into BD to kill people then that would be inhumane and wrong. till then this is going to happen.
and atleast INDIA has taken initiative to stop it by building a wall what has BD government done?
 
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ok so people cross fenced walls to smugle cows? and then how do they take cows over the fence?
and in the article given by your very own media they have said the girl was working in delhi.
about other countries which offer better jobs than INDIA, no such country has borders with BD from where they can easily enter in that country so poor people who dont afford Visa and travelling cost to those tens of country come to INDIA because it is cheap to come to INDIA.
i was not going to bring this to forum since i dont like to put such things in open and now also i m not bringing this here to insult BD,so i urge BD people to not take it as a offence against there nation.but now since you have forced me by denying every time. there are thousands of bangladeshi bargirls and sex workers in MUMBAI. i dont have any printed article to prove this to you but i see them everyday with my own eyes. if you ever come to mumbai just visit check naka which is entrance to mumbai and look for yourself.
you can off course bash me calling this as a proofless claim and i wont even mind it since its not going to change the fact.

i have said this repeatedly and will send once again if there are no migrants then how does BSF gets to kill those people. BSF is not going inside BD to kill them but this people come to borders to cross it. if not for better jobs then for what do they cross the borders putting in danger there lives?
i will support BSF untill it is doing things as stated by law if atall any day BSF crosses the border and goes into BD to kill people then that would be inhumane and wrong. till then this is going to happen.
and atleast INDIA has taken initiative to stop it by building a wall what has BD government done?

If you think that those woman went there willingly then you are living in a fools world.... A big syndicate of India traffic woman and children from bd and Nepal.... Obviously with the help of BSF....


Get a look at the following link... Some of the claim may be exaggerated but true...

Bangladesh - Coalition Against Trafficking of Women


But anyway how u r so sure that they are bangladeshi? They could also be from west Bengal..... Before posting such ridiculous stuff try to arrest all the Indian syndicate and punish the corrupt BSF.... Without there help these victims could not be brought to India...
 
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If you think that those woman went there willingly then you are living in a fools world.... A big syndicate of India traffic woman and children from bd and Nepal.... Obviously with the help of BSF....


Get a look at the following link... Some of the claim may be exaggerated but true...

Bangladesh - Coalition Against Trafficking of Women


But anyway how u r so sure that they are bangladeshi? They could also be from west Bengal..... Before posting such ridiculous stuff try to arrest all the Indian syndicate and punish the corrupt BSF.... Without there help these victims could not be brought to India...

look i didnt mean to harm image of bangladesh by saying that and i cleared it too.
i just said that because many of your countrymen claim that there are no BD immigrants living illegaly in INDIA. i know it is shameful.

and how can i be sure come here and ask them they frankly admit they are bangladeshi in private.

and when they are kidnapping or by whatever means this so called INDIAN agents are getting this women what is BD government doing? isnt it duty of BD government to act against any such thing happening in BD?
 
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They try to cross over(She was coming from Delhi)! illegal.:rolleyes:
And we kill them.
Good way i must say,BSF to stop the overflowing Bangaladeshi immigrants(illegal).
 
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Killing thy neighbour: India, and its Border Security Force
Posted on January 9, 2011

New Age | Newspaper

Killing thy neighbour: India, and its Border Security Force
Rahnuma Ahmed

Felani’s clothes got entangled in the barbed wire when she was crossing the Anantapur border in Kurigram. It was 6 in the morning, Friday, 7th January 2011. Felani was 15, she worked in Delhi and was returning home with her father after ten years. To get married. She screamed. The BSF shot her dead. They took away her body.

THE fence is made of steel and concrete. Packed with razor wire, double-walled and 8-foot high, it is being built by the government of India on its border with Bangladesh. When completed, it promises to be larger than the United States-Mexico fence, Israel’s apartheid wall with Palestine, and the Berlin wall put together. It has been dubbed the Great Wall of India.

The fence is being constructed, with floodlighting in parts, to secure India’s borders against interests hostile to the country. To put in place systems that are able to ‘interdict’ these hostile elements. They will include a suitable mix and class of various types of hi-tech electronic surveillance equipment such as night vision devices, handheld thermal imagers, battlefield surveillance radars, direction finders, unattended ground sensors, high-powered telescopes to act as a ‘force multiplier’ for ‘effective’ border management. According to its rulers, this is ‘vitally important for national security.’

Seventy per cent of fencing along the Bangladesh border has been completed. In reply to a question in the Rajya Sabha on November 10, 2010, the Indian state minister for home affairs said, fencing will be completed by March 2012. One estimate puts the project’s cost at ?600 million.

The colonial boundary division between East Pakistan/Bangladesh and India, notes Willem van Schendel, had little to do with modern concepts of spatial rationality. It was anything but a straight line, snaking ‘through the countryside in a wacky zigzag pattern’ showing no respect for history, cutting through innumerable geographical entities, for example, the ancient capital of Gaur. It was reflective of someone with an ‘excessively baroque mind’ (The Bengal Borderland: Beyond State and Nation in South Asia, 2005)

The fence divides and separates. Villages. Agricultural lands. Markets. Families. Communities. It cuts across mangrove-swamps in the southwest, forests and mountains in the northeast (Delwar Hussain, March 2, 2009). It divides villages. Everyday village-life must now submit to a tangle of bureaucracy as Indian Muslim law clerk, Maznu Rahman Mandal and his wife Ahmeda Khatun, a Bangladeshi, discovered after Ahmeda’s father died. To attend the latter’s funeral in the same village, Bhira, they would now have to get passports from Delhi, visas from Kolkata (Bidisha Bannerjee, December 20, 2010). It split up Fazlur Rehman’s family too, the fence snaked into their Panidhar village homestead, his younger brother who lived right next door, is now in another country (Time, February 5, 2009). Other border residents have had their homes split in two, the kitchen in one country, the bedroom in another.

To access one’s field, or markets, residents must now line up at long queues at the BSF border outposts, surrender their identity cards. They must submit to the BSF’s regimen, which often means disregarding what the crop needs. As Mithoo Sheikh of Murshidabad says, ‘The BSF does not understand cultivation problems.’ By the time we get to the field it is noon. Sometimes we get water only at night. But we have to stop working at 4pm, because they will not let us remain in the field. If we disobey, they beat us, they file false charges. (‘Trigger Happy’. Excessive Use of Force by Indian Troops at the Bangladesh Border, Human Rights Watch, December 2010).

This lack of ‘understanding’ percolates to the topmost levels of both border forces. During an official visit to Bangladesh and talks between the BSF and the BDR (Bangladesh Rifles, recently renamed Border Guard Bangladesh) in September 2010, Raman Srivastava, director general of the BSF, in response to allegations that BSF troopers were killing innocent and unarmed Bangladeshi civilians said: ‘The deaths have occurred in Indian territory and mostly during night, so how can they be innocent?’ Ideas reciprocated by the BDR chief Major General Mainul Islam in March 2010, who, while explaining that there was a history of ‘people and cattle trafficking during darkness’, said, ‘We should not be worried about such incidents [killings]…. We have discussed the matter and will ensure that no innocent people will be killed.’

Abdur Rakib was catching fish in Dohalkhari lake, inside Bangladeshi territory. It was March 13, 2009. A witness saw a BSF soldier standing at the border, talking loudly. ‘It seemed that he wanted the boy to give him some free fish.’ Heated argument, verbal abuse. ‘The BSF pointed a gun at the boy. The boy ran and the soldier started to shoot.’ Two were injured. Rakib was shot in the chest. He died instantly. He was 13.

Smuggling, cattle rustling and human trafficking has increased in the border areas as poor farmers and landless people faced by population increases, poor irrigation, flooding, and continuous river erosion struggle to make ends meet. While both the BSF and the BGB accuse each other of corruption, the reality, says the recent Human Rights Watch report, is that some officials, border guards, and politicians on both sides are almost certainly involved in smuggling. It quotes a senior BSF official, ‘There are a lot of people involved, including our chaps. That is why only these farmers, with one or two cows are caught, not groups that ferry large consignments of cattle or drugs.’

A culture of impunity prevails, says Kirity Roy, head of Manabadhikar Suraksha Mancha (Masum), a Kolkata-based human rights organisation. We have repeatedly approached the courts, the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), the National Minorities Commission, the National Commission for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, the National Commission for Protection of Child Rights. But none of the cases raised have been brought to a satisfactory conclusion. In some cases, family members appeared before the BSF court of inquiry but we, as the de facto complainant, were never summoned to appear or depose before any inquiry conducted by BSF. No verdicts have been made public.

Neither has the BSF provided any details to Bangladeshi authorities of any BSF personnel having been prosecuted for human rights violation. Impunity is legally sanctioned as the BSF is exempt from criminal prosecution unless specific approval is granted by the Indian government. A new bill to prohibit torture is being considered by the Indian parliament, it includes legal impunity.

On April 22, 2009, when Rabindranath Mandal and his wife were returning to Bangladesh after having illegally gone to India for Rabindranath’s treatment, a BSF patrol team from Ghojadanga camp detained them. She was raped. Rabindranath tried to save her, they killed him. The following morning, the BSF jawans left her and her husband’s dead body at the Zero Line at Lakkhidari.

The reason for building the fence, said an Indian Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson, is the same as the United States’ Mexico fence. As Israel’s fence on the West Bank. To prevent illegal migration and terrorist infiltration.

But Rizwana Shamshad points out that the hysteria generated by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party during the 1980s and 1990s—Bangladeshi Muslim ‘infiltration’ by the millions constitutes a serious strain on the national economy, it poses a threat to India’s stability and security, it represents a challenge to Indian sovereignty, demographic changes will soon lead to Bangladeshi citizens demanding a separate state from India—did not withstand investigation. A study carried out by the Centre for Study of Society and Secularism in 1995 revealed that the BJP-Shiv Sena allegations were not only an exaggeration, but a complete fabrication. Fears and insecurities had been deliberately whipped up to consolidate Hindutva ideology; migrants, it seemed, were more preoccupied with struggling to make a living. While the BJP-Shiv Sena had alleged that there were 300,000 illegal Bangladeshi migrants in Mumbai, they were able to detect and deport only 10,000 Bangladeshi migrants, when in power (1998-2004).

The numbers vary with each media or official report, writes Rizwana. A BJP National Executive meeting declared over 15 million (April 1992). Nearly 10 million, said former Union Home Minister Indrajit Gupta (May 6, 1997). The group of cabinet ministers (home, defence, external affairs, finance) set up by prime minister Vajpayee post Kargil, reported 15 million (2000). The definitions, she adds, are prejudiced: Muslim migrants are described as ‘infiltrators’. Hindu migrants as ‘refugees’. Neither is there any mention of the Indian economy having benefited from cheap labour.

The HRW report notes, few killed by the BSF have ever been shown to have been involved in terrorism. In the cases investigated, alleged criminals were armed with nothing but sickles, sticks and knives, implements commonly carried by villagers. Nor do the dead bodies bear out the BSF’s justification that they had fired in self-defence. Shots in the back indicate that the victims had been shot running away. Shots at close range signal they were probably killed in custody.

The BSF kills Indian nationals too. In Indian territory. Basirun Bibi and her 6-month old grandson Ashique, May 2010. Atiur Rahman, March 2010. Shahjahan Gazi, November 2009. Noor Hossain, September 2009. Shyamsundar Mondal, August 2009. Sushanta Mondal, July 2009. Abdus Samad, May 2009. The imposition of informal curfews on both sides of the border at night, reportedly to prevent the accidental shooting of villagers, has not lessened the number of innocent people killed.

Beatings, torture, rape, killings. What could be the reason for such compulsively violent behaviour? According to the HRW report, it could have been caused by previous deployment in the Indo-Pakistan border in Kashmir, by ‘difficult and tense periods of duty.’

However, checkpoints, curfews, hi-tech electronic surveillance equipment, harassment, intimidation, beatings, torture and sniper fire remind me of Gaza. Not surprising, given that once finished, the fence will ‘all but encircle Bangladesh’ (Time, February 5, 2009).

The 1947 colonial border division was reflective of someone with an ‘excessively baroque mind.’ Its brutal enforcement through fencing, through the deployment of trigger-happy BSF soldiers speak of a Nazi-state mentality.

Not too far-fetched given Israel and India’s ‘limitless relationship’ (Military ties unlimited: India and Israel, New Age, January 18, 2010). This includes Israeli training of Indian commandos in urban warfare and counter-insurgency operations (in Kashmir), and proposals for offering the Border Security Forces specialised training. Given Israel’s behaviour, which Auschwitz survivor, Hajo Meyer, likens to the Nazis. ‘I can write up an endless list of similarities between Nazi Germany and Israel.’

Israel’s inability to learn to live with its neighbours is increasingly turning it into a ‘pariah state’ (British MP). Its ‘paranoia’ has been noted by Israelis themselves (Gideon Levy). That a similar future awaits India is increasingly clear.


Very interesting article. Wonder how bad demarcation of India and Bangladesh border is.

Bengalis should try n materially support Indian's West Bengal independence and separation. Slowly Bangladesh getting richer, more than ever support to separation of Stranded Bengalis in India becomes achievable.
 
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Ur end times has started, pill taking is ur need, India is being isolated from all fronts before an incursion to strangle to death....only this time Modi is making it happen quicker.


U.S. China & Russia do not gives a rats *** to Indian geopolitical interests....they only want to earn money , sell their goods.


Pakistan has managed to almost kick India out of Afghanistan, India tried Fake concocketed Bombay, Gurdaspur attack never had an inch effect on Pakistanis, in fact Kashmir is now internationalised....Hurriyat is back to central stage, LOC is warming up....talks with BjP govt and terrorist PM r over for good, playing cricket with India has become n insult to Pakistanis.


Keep dreaming n taking antibiotics & antidepressants pills...it can release ur losses n pains for momentarily relief Ondians badly need.

Delusions of a typical Pakistani mullah...:lol:

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Very interesting article. Wonder how bad demarcation of India and Bangladesh border is.

Bengalis should try n materially support Indian's West Bengal independence and separation. Slowly Bangladesh getting richer, more than ever support to separation of Stranded Bengalis in India becomes achievable.
You're a little too late to the party young one. India and BD solved their border disputes completely 2 months back.
India, Bangladesh settle 41-year-old border dispute, ink 22 agreements - IBNLive
 
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Forgot to take your pill today ?


Ur end times has started, pill taking is ur need, India is being isolated from all fronts before an incursion to strangle to death....only this time Modi is making it happen quicker.


U.S. China & Russia do not gives a rats *** to Indian geopolitical interests....they only want to earn money , sell their goods.


Pakistan has managed to almost kick India out of Afghanistan, India tried Fake concocketed Bombay, Gurdaspur attack never had an inch effect on Pakistanis, in fact Kashmir is now internationalised....Hurriyat is back to central stage, LOC is warming up....talks with BjP govt and terrorist PM r over for good, playing cricket with India has become n insult to Pakistanis.


Keep dreaming n taking antibiotics & antidepressants pills...it can release ur losses n pains for momentarily relief Ondians badly need.
 
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Ur end times has started, pill taking is ur need, India is being isolated from all fronts before an incursion to strangle to death....only this time Modi is making it happen quicker.


U.S. China & Russia do not gives a rats *** to Indian geopolitical interests....they only want to earn money , sell their goods.


Pakistan has managed to almost kick India out of Afghanistan, India tried Fake concocketed Bombay, Gurdaspur attack never had an inch effect on Pakistanis, in fact Kashmir is now internationalised....Hurriyat is back to central stage, LOC is warming up....talks with BjP govt and terrorist PM r over for good, playing cricket with India has become n insult to Pakistanis.


Keep dreaming n taking antibiotics & antidepressants pills...it can release ur losses n pains for momentarily relief Ondians badly need.



Carry on please

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