Key MQM leaders maintain connections with RAW: SSP Malir

[I M Sikander]

That's not his work ... He is a law maker ... But he will do something until local government forms ........

Yah he was busy in making plans with sector people and hyder abbas rizvi to thriw crackers at city school branches of Karachi

 

[Indus Falcon]

maybe you don't know about this thing zia ul haq introduced called 'development funds' which is still in practice today.
all mpas get them but ruling party usually gets much more than opposition, nonetheless they exist, and mqm could solve all of karachi's problems if they were serious.
why they never do shutter down for karachi's problems like the do when someone insult altaf hussain?

I don't know if Gen Zia introduced it, but yes both MPA's and MNA's get development fund, jisko kha kar woh dakar bhi nahi laytay.

 

[Patriots]

maybe you don't know about this thing zia ul haq introduced called 'development funds' which is still in practice today.
all mpas get them but ruling party usually gets much more than opposition, nonetheless they exist, and mqm could solve all of karachi's problems if they were serious.
why they never do shutter down for karachi's problems like the do when someone insult altaf hussain?

I know ... And MQM did in its full tenure ... Didn't they...???

Yah he was busy in making plans with sector people and hyder abbas rizvi to thriw crackers at city school branches of Karachi

Please come up with solid evidence

 

[I.R.A]

These types of events which are being occured one by one becoming cause to bringing to Karachi people on one point "Muhajir" ... This guy @rockstar08 was a biggest critic of MQM 2 months ago ... Now you suppose him a hardcore MQMer

I never had problem with MQM supporters here @KURUMAYA , you @Gazi , you people support your party and you have every right to do that, and I respect that but the logic to start blaming Pakistan, Pakistanis and act like a fool of first waters is beyond me.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

So did RAW provided any certificate after training.

It's the same as when terrorist India gets caught with crimes against humanity like in Indian Occupied Kashmir. No certificate needed.

 

[Greaves]

today MQM ! tomorrow mohajir ! circle will be complete then.

wow man now i know how u got that much negatives

 

[tarrar]

MQM & ANP have links with RAW & their purpose in Pakistan is only one thing, harm Pakistan, spread chaos & anarchy in Pakistan. Action needs to be taken against these bastards & finish these bastards once & for all. No more time should be wasted, already a lot of time has been wasted.

 

[nair]

So MQM is supported by RAW........ Sounds like they still find RAW a effective tool to use their propaganda.....Wonder when will we see a statement that LeT is funded and supported by RAW

 

[Zarvan]

So MQM is supported by RAW........ Sounds like they still find RAW a effective tool to use their propaganda.....Wonder when will we see a statement that LeT is funded and supported by RAW

Yes MQM is being supported by RAW but there days are over now lists are ready and soon most of there leaders will end up in Jail for ever

 

[Shamain]

Dude, I will take the high command's word over its subordinates any day, after all what reason do they have to lie? What reason do they have to declare their own earlier claim as not true? Feel free to share the reason on why ISPR lied on that issue. Strong connections you say, perhaps the national intelligence agencies would have no problem making this same accusation on the political party, a well-known corrupt police officer has no credibility at least for me. Pakistanis would believe anything given under the hashtags of #traitors #RAW #India though. Its not exactly new where someone is accused for working with foreign agencies because of strong disagreements without any evidence whatsoever. It a common thing to say here in this country. If there's some, I would like this man who's involved in land grabbing and extortion money to present it in court. Innocent until proven guilty.

The news link i had shared contained the statement of former MQM worker. And u are talking abt police officer , i am not discussing him, had u read my provided link.

And the guys you are calling high command do u even know their reputation. This is brig imtiaz whose statment u were quoting. Imtiaz Ahmed (brigadier) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And do mere statments on t.v channels suffice to issue innocence certificate. Then when asad durrani made ridiculous statements on ISI regarding osama bin laden why were u ppl getting offended over that.


Plz comment then what is this,

i have seen even mohajrs cursing this man, saying he has raw links. Oh common just cuz uwnt to pretend he has no links u are going abt this typical line that 'when pakistanis have nothing to do they blame everything on raw'. Oh puleeezee spare me such statements dude. And enjoy the above video.

Anyways, jinnahpur conspiracy whether was true or not but altaf always had indian backing. U dont want to believe ur issue. Also somewhere deep inside u hold a very huge soft spot for this party.

I would suggest everyone to read this whole page whose link i am droppig, tho below i am quoting some parts from it. Abiding Jinnahpur conspiracy - BY: Asif Haroon Raja - South Asian Pulse

This is by asif hroon raja who was also mentioned in news u quoted in ur post directed at me and altaf hussain always mentioned this guy.

Debate on Jinnahpur controversy and some other dead issues was suddenly triggered by ex DG IB retired Brig Imtiaz Ahmad with certain defined political motives. He provided grist to the hungry electronic media to re-ignite the issue and give a clean chit to the MQM. Involved in Mehrangate scandal and Operation ‘Midnight Jackals’ during his stint in ISI, he was dismissed from Army service on disciplinary grounds. He claimed on Geo TV on 23 August 2009 that there was no truth in Jinnahpur map and it was a mere drama to defame MQM. Lt Gen ® Naseer Akhtar lent strength to his assertion. He claimed on Aaj TV on August 24, 2009 that he knew nothing about Jinnahpur map, and that he came to know of it two days after my Press briefing, that is, July 19, 1992 and it saddened him. The fact is that I met him in the Corps Operations Room on the morning of July 18th and I discussed the matter with him. Their contention was not based on truth.

Based on the certificates of ‘not guilty’ issued by Brig Imtiaz and Lt Gen Naseer, Altaf Hussain made a telephonic address to the emotion packed gathering of his followers on August 24, 2009. He shed copious tears asserting that their innocence has finally been proven but at the cost of extreme rigors and loss of over 15000 innocent workers of MQM. He and other MQM leaders took a new stance that presentation of fabricated map and describing MQM as anti-State became the basis of Operation Cleanup in urban Sindh. They forgot that while the operation in Karachi/Hyderabad commenced on June 19, 1992, controversy of Jinnahpur map cropped up one month later on July 18. Ex DGMI Lt Gen ® Asad Durrani who was serving as IGT&E in GHQ in 1992 said that the map was certainly not the basis of starting the operation in Karachi.

 

[Secur]

@Shamain I am not looking for paragraphs with no real substance. Just a simple explanation as too why the people who made the accusation in the first place are now denying it along with "ISPR" and where's the evidence - the existence of which is talked en masse by all these people? About the "innocence certificates", the people calling it fake today are the ones who planned and executed the operation back then, I am not sure about you knowing about the extreme bias and unwavering faith in all things establishment but to me they are credible enough. Retd Lt Gen Naseer Ahmed said the same thing about the Jinnahpur drama, that for you used to be the Corps Commander, Karachi during the era and supervised the operation. The Billa himself was the Director General of the Intelligence Bureau, he devised the whole operation.

I have seen people claim that Elvis Presley is still alive and living with the subterranean. Of course, I don't buy it. And about the national habit of either denying or blaming it on foreign agencies, that is amply seen regardless of the current events and even regardless of politics. Strong disagreements in this country run the risk of being called Shia, Ahmadi, Qadiani, Amreki/Bharti/Yahoodi agent. Such was the case in the past and such is the case now and I have maintained this stance since time immemorial here on this forum. Sparing you such statements will not change the reality on ground And here's one more. Brig Asif says he never saw ‘Jinnahpur’ map - thenews.com.pk

And please don't quote Mr Afaq Ahmed, if you want to be taken seriously. He's a political opponent of Altaf Hussain. That is what he's supposed to say.

 

[Shamain]

@Shamain I am not looking for paragraphs with no real substance. Just a simple explanation as too why the people who made the accusation in the first place are now denying it along with "ISPR" and where's the evidence - the existence of which is talked en masse by all these people? About the "innocence certificates", the people calling it fake today are the ones who planned and executed the operation back then, I am not sure about you knowing about the extreme bias and unwavering faith in all things establishment but to me they are credible enough. Retd Lt Gen Naseer Ahmed said the same thing about the Jinnahpur drama, that for you used to be the Corps Commander, Karachi during the era and supervised the operation. The Billa himself was the Director General of the Intelligence Bureau, he devised the whole operation.

I have seen people claim that Elvis Presley is still alive and living with the subterranean. Of course, I don't buy it. And about the national habit of either denying or blaming it on foreign agencies, that is amply seen regardless of the current events and even regardless of politics. Strong disagreements in this country run the risk of being called Shia, Ahmadi, Qadiani, Amreki/Bharti/Yahoodi agent. Such was the case in the past and such is the case now and I have maintained this stance since time immemorial here on this forum. Sparing you such statements will not change the reality on ground And here's one more. Brig Asif says he never saw ‘Jinnahpur’ map - thenews.com.pk

And please don't quote Mr Afaq Ahmed, if you want to be taken seriously. He's a political opponent of Altaf Hussain. That is what he's supposed to say.

Sighs and i give up. You are free to choose and think whatever you want. Good luck.

 

[Secur]

Sighs and i give up. You are free to choose and think whatever you want. Good luck.

Of course you give up, that is the high command (both the Corps Commander and Director IB) denying it ever happened while the subordinates in the form of a single Major (who claims to have his house burned by MQM in Gujranwala) and a certain political opponent of MQM still towing the army's old line which they themselves aren't interested in continuing anymore. Lol

 

[Shamain]

Of course you give up, that is the high command (both the Corps Commander and Director IB) denying it ever happened while the subordinates in the form of a single Major (who claims to have his house burned by MQM in Gujranwala) and a certain political opponent of MQM still towing the army's old line which they themselves aren't interested in continuing anymore. Lol

Yes ofcourse you are right.
You are totally logical, awesome ,undefeatable and all that.
Tho didnt bother reading abt controversies attached with brig imtiaz's shady character.
Khair anyways, you are right. You win the debate and all.

 

[Secur]

Tho didnt bother reading abt controversies attached with brig imtiaz's shady character.

I know, but what exactly does that have to do with it though? Others are saying the same thing, I see no reason to dismiss his statements. He's known for being a tool of Pakistani army for political interference.

You win the debate and all.

Sadly, that is the last thing I am interested in.