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Must read article here, out of context excerpts below:

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The recent hasty and secretive signing of an intelligence-sharing agreement with Pakistan has led former Afghan President Hamid Karzai to part ways with the incumbent Afghan leader, Ashraf Ghani.

The policies that Arg, the Afghan presidential palace in Kabul, is peddling with Islamabad -- particularly its dealings with the Pakistani military -- have caused a deep and unfortunate rupture between the current and former Afghan presidents.

This state of affairs is the result of months of disagreements over key national issues central to Afghanistan's sovereignty and national interests.

During Afghanistan's hard-fought, disputed elections last year, most presidential hopefuls met with Karzai. Ghani, in particular, assured him that if elected president "he will take all important initiatives after wide-ranging consultations."

During several long deliberations with Ghani, Karzai had made some specific suggestions about looking after core Afghan national interests. He told Ghani that if elected he should be extra vigilant in looking after "Afghan sovereignty, promoting and strengthening national unity, and maintaining an independent foreign policy."

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The former leader was emphatic in demanding that Ghani should pay utmost attention to "not concluding any agreement with Pakistan over Afghan sovereignty or the Durand Line issue."

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Karzai, too opposed, the deal. On May 19, he called Ghani for a "blunt and serious" conversation. He told the president that "intelligence cooperation with Pakistan and such deals are treason and a betrayal of the Afghan soil."

Ghani defended the deal, but Karzai raised several fundamental questions, such as, under this deal, which "separatists" are we supposed to jointly fight in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Who is behind this ongoing war in Afghanistan? How can be Afghanistan's enemy (the Pakistani military) become a friend, while our traditional ally (India) has now become an enemy?

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Despite decades of war, there has never been a separatist movement in Afghanistan. Most Afghans blame Pakistan for backing the Taliban and allied militants in the armed opposition.

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Ghani was surprised by the ferocity of Karzai's opposition and immediately investigated who had leaked the details of the intelligence deal to the former leader. He promptly fired two deputies of the NDS director and appointed loyalists instead. This has paved the way to politicize a national institution, which might open it to manipulation by the ISI.

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On May 20, when Karzai's office was preparing a statement to call for scrapping the NDS-ISI deal, the U.S. embassy in Kabul opposed the statement. American diplomats knew about the statement before it was issued and scrambled to assure Karzai's staff that "the deal will be changed and edited."
 
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Must read article here, out of context excerpts below:

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The recent hasty and secretive signing of an intelligence-sharing agreement with Pakistan has led former Afghan President Hamid Karzai to part ways with the incumbent Afghan leader, Ashraf Ghani.

The policies that Arg, the Afghan presidential palace in Kabul, is peddling with Islamabad -- particularly its dealings with the Pakistani military -- have caused a deep and unfortunate rupture between the current and former Afghan presidents.

This state of affairs is the result of months of disagreements over key national issues central to Afghanistan's sovereignty and national interests.

During Afghanistan's hard-fought, disputed elections last year, most presidential hopefuls met with Karzai. Ghani, in particular, assured him that if elected president "he will take all important initiatives after wide-ranging consultations."

During several long deliberations with Ghani, Karzai had made some specific suggestions about looking after core Afghan national interests. He told Ghani that if elected he should be extra vigilant in looking after "Afghan sovereignty, promoting and strengthening national unity, and maintaining an independent foreign policy."

...

The former leader was emphatic in demanding that Ghani should pay utmost attention to "not concluding any agreement with Pakistan over Afghan sovereignty or the Durand Line issue."

...

Karzai, too opposed, the deal. On May 19, he called Ghani for a "blunt and serious" conversation. He told the president that "intelligence cooperation with Pakistan and such deals are treason and a betrayal of the Afghan soil."

Ghani defended the deal, but Karzai raised several fundamental questions, such as, under this deal, which "separatists" are we supposed to jointly fight in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Who is behind this ongoing war in Afghanistan? How can be Afghanistan's enemy (the Pakistani military) become a friend, while our traditional ally (India) has now become an enemy?

...

Despite decades of war, there has never been a separatist movement in Afghanistan. Most Afghans blame Pakistan for backing the Taliban and allied militants in the armed opposition.

...

Ghani was surprised by the ferocity of Karzai's opposition and immediately investigated who had leaked the details of the intelligence deal to the former leader. He promptly fired two deputies of the NDS director and appointed loyalists instead. This has paved the way to politicize a national institution, which might open it to manipulation by the ISI.

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On May 20, when Karzai's office was preparing a statement to call for scrapping the NDS-ISI deal, the U.S. embassy in Kabul opposed the statement. American diplomats knew about the statement before it was issued and scrambled to assure Karzai's staff that "the deal will be changed and edited."

Why do you keep posting Anti-Pakistan stuff ? were you also born and raised like that leech (Karzai) in Peshawar,Pakistan and then moved to Afghanistan.

I think Pakistan should kick out all Afghan refugees there are just thankless lechers.
 
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Karzai is still so confident that he must have some support from Higher Echelons of Afghan Military and former Northern Alliance warlords.
 
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Why do you keep posting Anti-Pakistan stuff ? were you also born and raised like that leech (Karzai) in Peshawar,Pakistan and then moved to Afghanistan.

I think Pakistan should kick out all Afghan refugees there are just thankless lechers.

Ghustakhi maaf -- magar aap nay suna nahin hay key main RAW ka aik agent houn
{Forgive me -- but have you not heard that I am a RAW agent}

Mayre mantiq main haqaiq bayan karna aur unkey zaray, asbab aur asarat mutalay karna intahai muhim hay
{According to me stating facts, and the scholarship of their sources, reasons and effects is of utmost importance}

Aik undhay jahil ki tarhan naveed ki sadain dayna aur apnay app ko dhoka daina maray kam aqal kay mutabiq jurm say battar hay
{Irrational exuberance as exhibited by blind idiots; the deceit of oneself, in my limited knowledge, is criminal}

Aap ka bhai - aik aur RAW agent
{Your brother, yet another RAW agent}
 
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Ghustakhi maaf -- magar aap nay suna nahin hay key main RAW ka aik agent houn
{Forgive me -- but have you not heard that I am a RAW agent}

Mayre mantiq main haqaiq bayan karna aur unkey zaray, asbab aur asarat mutalay karna intahai muhim hay
{According to me stating facts, and the scholarship of their sources, reasons and effects is of utmost importance}

Aik undhay jahil ki tarhan naveed ki sadain dayna aur apnay app ko dhoka daina maray kam aqal kay mutabiq jurm say battar hay
{Irrational exuberance as exhibited by blind idiots; the deceit of oneself, in my limited knowledge, is criminal}

Aap ka bhai - aik aur RAW agent
{You brother, yet another RAW agent}

Dar Haqiqat bat kuch aisi hai, bohut si cheezein jo humay bazahir nazer ya sumjh ati hai zaroori nahi hai wo hamesha dorust ho. Haqiqat Pasandi aik achi cheez hai mager bohut ziada sehat kay liye achi nahi :P. Khair Jahan tuk bat rahi Afghanistan ki hum ne hamesha Afghanio ko apna Bhai Sumjha, mager humay kabhi uska sila nahi mila, Ab App apne ko Raw Ka Agent bola ya CIA ka mere nazdeek sirf 2 he tarhan k group hai Ya tu Pakistani ya Nahi.
 
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Dar Haqiqat bat kuch aisi hai, bohut si cheezein jo humay bazahir nazer ya sumjh ati hai zaroori nahi hai wo hamesha dorust ho. Haqiqat Pasandi aik achi cheez hai mager bohut ziada sehat kay liye achi nahi :P. Khair Jahan tuk bat rahi Afghanistan ki hum ne hamesha Afghanio ko apna Bhai Sumjha, mager humay kabhi uska sila nahi mila, Ab App apne ko Raw Ka Agent bola ya CIA ka mere nazdeek sirf 2 he tarhan k group hai Ya tu Pakistani ya Nahi.

Ghustakhi phir maaf ki jiya ga -- magar karvi dava ka istaimal sirf tab khatam kiya jata hay jab mareez kay liya koi umeed baqi nahin rahti -- us janib, dua aur dilason par sahara liya jata hay
{Forgive me -- but one only cases the administering of bitter medicine when there is no hope left for the patient -- then one leans on prayer and false reassurances}

Do-bara Ghustakhi maaf ki-jiya-ga -- magar aaj kal kay mausam main Pakistani ya Nah hona usi haal main tabdeel ho gaya hay aapki Pak-sar-zeem par jaisay Musalman hoona ya nah hoona hay - jaisay kisi na kisi kay mutabiq har koi kafir hay, haqqatan usi tarah kasi na kisi ki nazdeeq har koi ghair Pakistani hay
{Forgive me again -- but being a Pakistani or not being one has become like being a Muslim or not a Muslim in your land of the Pure: as everyone is a non Muslim in someone's eyes: so is everyone not a Pakistani in someone else's eyes}

Dama-dam Mast Qalandar
 
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All afghans should leave pakistan and vice versa.
 
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Karzai's stand for 'Afghan National interests'? How so?

We all know what happened during the last decade of Karzai rule - his anti-Pakistan stance and decisions to support terrorism in Pakistan through the likes of the Baloch terrorist groups and the TTP won him no friends on the Pakistani side and only served to harden the Pakistani position against him.

There was no cooperation between Pakistan and Afghanistan on addressing threats on either side of the border, and Pakistan had no interest in facilitating peace talks ( in as much as it could) between a Karzai regime openly supporting terrorism against Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban.

So if Karzai opposes Ghani's policies, that can only mean he wants a return to the anti-Pakistan policies of his time in office, and those policies rested on a foundation of total support for Baloch and TTP terrorist groups in Pakistan that would prevent Pakistan from prospering while ensuring that Afghanistan sank to the bot. That doesn't sound like a stand 'for Afghan national interests' as much as it sounds like a stand 'for Indian interests' - prevent Pakistan from prospering while ensuring that Afghanistan sinks to the bottom of the abyss.
 
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