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Karnataka’s New Education Proposal Calls Pythagoras Theorem, Newton’s Law ‘Fake News’

Karnataka’s New Education Proposal Calls Pythagoras Theorem, Newton’s Law ‘Fake News’​

By Saumya Kalia

Jul 11, 2022
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Many moons ago Isaac Newton formulated the gravitational theory. This is one of the most famous stories in the canon of scientific discovery; Newton reportedly observed an apple fall to the ground (or in some versions the apple falls on his head, too) which led him to articulate the law of gravitation that is the foundation of physics as we know it.
But this is “fake news,” according to the Karnataka government. In a recent proposal regarding the curriculum in its syllabus under the National Education Policy (NEP), the government said that Newton’s Law, and even the Pythagoras theorem in Maths, are fake news that the West has “created and propagated,” according to reports. The Union government is currently developing a revamped syllabus under the NEP, for which inputs from other state governments will be considered for shaping India’s new education curriculum.
One element of the proposal calls into question the “Eurocentric” lens of the curriculum. The proposal notes that things like gravity and Pythagoras are rooted in “Vedic Maths” and wants to promote an “India-centered approach” to education. The paper argued that the current education system for “ignoring achievements of their own ancestors,” according to a Times of India report. Children should be able to juxtapose “mathematical concepts which have its origins in Europe” with concepts from “ancient Bharat,” what it also calls Bharatiya Geometry. One example of the latter would be introducing some sutras of Vedic mathematics — for “fast mental calculation.” In other words, the proposal effectively claims that something like the Pythagoras theorem — named for the Greek philosopher who formulated it — has Vedic roots. Even calculus originated in medieval India, the recommendations stated.
“For instance, it is believed that Baudhayan [ancient Indian mathematician] had laid down Pythagoras’ theorem in Vedic texts,” said Madan Gopal, chairman of the task force for Karnataka’s primary and secondary education department. “This is a viewpoint. You may or may not agree with it.”
Pythagoras theorem is a staple of high school mathematics; the law goes that the sum of the squares of the sides of a right-angled triangle is equal to the square of the hypotenuse. The technique is widely used in engineering and construction fields too. Moreover, gravity, and Newton’s laws of motion, have become the rudimentary blocks of physics.
Yet, the government puts the credibility of similar scientific and mathematical theories into question. This is purportedly in a bid to “[E]ncouraging an attitude of questioning and not merely accepting whatever the textbooks (or print/electronic/social media) say as infallible truth, with a clear foundation of how knowledge generation takes place and how fake news such as Pythagoras theorem, apple falling on Newton’s head etc. are created and propagated,” according to Karnataka’s position paper.

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Another recommendation, again, is to shift the focus to Indian-centric literature from the West to remove the faces of Greek mathematicians Pythagoras and Heron. “It is also recommended that some of the examples given in the textbooks on Bhāratiya geometry can be done outside the classroom, probably in the playground. Sections on Greek mathematics need to be trimmed down, especially the depictions of the faces of ‘Greek mathematicians’ such as Pythagoras, Heron, etc.,” reads the proposal.
The objective appears to be to uphold ancient Indian frameworks of education, ones that link to the Rig Vedic period. For it is these claims and suggestions that “communicate to our students such details of our lofty past.” This part betrays much of the intent around making India-based amends to the curriculum: with the learning objective anchored around sanitizing India’s legacy.
While the state government’s input wants students to question established knowledge systems by virtue of them being Western, it also desires the inclusion of some contentious literature. One such example is the Manusmriti, which scholars have long criticized for its casteist ideology, one that dehumanizes people along caste, class, ethnicity, and gender lines. It “sums up Brahmanic ideology in the starkest term,” as the News Minute noted. Other recommendations include teaching Sanskrit as a third language and ancient numeral systems like Bhutasankhya (method of recording numbers in Sanskrit using common nouns) and kaṭapayadi sankhya to all school children.
None of this can be understood in totality without placing the recommendations within Karnataka’s current socio-political climate. Over the last few months, the Rohit Chakrathirtha-led textbook revision committee has proposed several contested additions and deletions as part of the state’s primary and secondary education. The panel dropped references to prominent historical personalities and instead included controversial figures, sparking protests across the state as critics pointed out the veritable “saffronizing” of school education.
The ideological polarizing is not only reflected in terms of violence and hostility, but may also embed itself in the very knowledge ecosystem as India is writing and re-writing much of what children will learn. The project of protecting “India’s traditional knowledge” is thus dictating what our education framework should look like.
A government panel last year similarly proposed contentious recommendations to India’s history books. As The Swaddle noted back then: “It is no surprise that most histories in the world are written, and rewritten, with a bias towards the prevailing victors. But relentless conflating truth, history, and glory appear to solidify a worrying narrative — one that is far from being accurate.”

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My opinion is that sanghis and gobar-eating bhakts should send their kids to these schools.
 
Its only correcting the western narrative.

Baudhayana listed Pythagoras theorem in his book called Baudhayana Sulbasutra.

दीर्घचतुरश्रस्याक्ष्णया रज्जु: पार्श्र्वमानी तिर्यग् मानी च यत् पृथग् भूते कुरूतस्तदुभयं करोति ॥

Translation,

The areas produced separately by the length and the breadth of a rectangle together equal the areas produced by the diagonal.

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Similarly is now proven that Newton plagiarized his 3 laws from ancient Indian texts.

Indians predated Newton 'discovery' by 250 years


 
Similarly is now proven that Newton plagiarized his 3 laws from ancient Indian texts.

Indians predated Newton 'discovery' by 250 years



Sure because according to Biplab Dev, BJP's former chief minister of Tripura, "Ancient Indians" also had satellite-augmented internet hundreds of thousands of years ago so CERN, DARPA, YouTube and others plagiarized their internet systems from "Ancient Indian" texts :
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UPDATED: 18 APR 2018 2:42 PM

Defending his statement that the internet was invented lakhs of years ago and that the technology and satellites existed since Mahabharata era, Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Deb on Wednesday said that narrow-minded people won’t believe it as they want to belittle their own country. “Narrow-minded people find it tough to believe this. They want to belittle their own nation and think highly of other countries. Believe the truth. Don’t get confused and don’t confuse others,” ANI quoted Biplab as saying.

Speaking at a Regional Workshop on Computerisation and Reforms at Pragna Bhawan in Agartala, Deb said that the internet was invented by India lakhs of years ago.

"Internet and satellite communication had existed in the days of Mahabharata. How could Sanjaya (the charioteer of King Dhritarashtra) give a detailed account and description to the blind king about the battle of Kurukshetra? It means internet was there, the satellites and that technology was there in this country at that time," he said.

The BJP leader said that the European nations and the United States may claim that it is their invention, but it is actually India's technology.

"Internet and satellite system had existed in India during lakhs of years ago. The richest culture belongs to our nation and I feel proud of it. Even today in internet and software technology, we are ahead. See Microsoft, it may be a U.S. company but most of its engineers are all from our country," he added.

The Tripura Chief Minister viewed that since the era of the Mahabharata, India was top in technology but somehow in the middle, it got lost.

"But, again today India has regained its position in technology in the world and it can be proved from the fact that a large number of software engineers play a vital role in the US companies," the Chief Minister said.
Deb further said that Prime Minister Narendra Modi has given a big push to digitisation by making it accessible to citizens across the country.

"Our Prime Minister himself is active on social networking sites and he asks the MPs and even the Chief Ministers about their presence on social media. We are lucky enough to have a guardian-like Prime Minister," he added.
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Sure because according to Biplab Dev, BJP's former chief minister of Tripura, "Ancient Indians" also had satellite-augmented internet hundreds of thousands of years ago so CERN, DARPA, YouTube and others plagiarized their internet systems from "Ancient Indian" texts :

Will Princeton's Fields Medal winning Manjul Bhargava's statement suffice for these who deny anything to India?

"In that sense, if you want hard scientific evidence, it's accurate to say that the Pythagorean theorem was first (recorded) in India in about 800 BC"

One has nothing to do with the other.

The question under review is triggering renewed understanding.

Try again explaining your point of view.

He has no point of view.

He just wants to deny Hindus and India its rightful place in the world.

Once a Kafir, always a kafir.
 
One has nothing to do with the other.

The question under review is triggering renewed understanding.

Try again explaining your point of view.

My point is simple. Since 2014 the irrationals and crooks have come crawling out and now commanding every institution sadly. The irrational elderly types who bored their progressive youth family members in earlier decades and were kept in check by a Constitution-derived framework are now the guides of Indian society. Please read the quotings in this post of mine.

Will Princeton's Fields Medal winning Manjul Bhargava's statement suffice for these who deny anything to India?

"In that sense, if you want hard scientific evidence, it's accurate to say that the Pythagorean theorem was first (recorded) in India in about 800 BC"

He has no point of view.

He just wants to deny Hindus and India its rightful place in the world.

Once a Kafir, always a kafir.

1. What does Mr. Manjul have to say about the zero ?

2. Hinduism has a wonderful concept - "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" ( The world is one family ) so keep to it and don't propagate religio-nationalism because nationalism is an artificial concept. Ally with Communism because that would be natural for a community having such a wonderful slogan. It would also be wonderful to ally with the progressive teachings of True Islam, Hazrat Isa, of Buddha and Guru Nanak. And don't promote anti-history irrational revisionism.
 
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1. What does Mr. Manjul have to say about the zero ?

2. Hinduism has a wonderful concept - "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" ( The world is one family ) so keep to it and don't propagate relgio-nationalism because nationalism is an artificial concept. Ally with Communism because that would be natural for a community having such a wonderful slogan. It would also be wonderful to ally with the progressive teachings of True Islam, Hazrat Isa, of Buddha and Guru Nanak. And don't promote anti-history irrational revisionism.

Open a new thread bout Dr Bhargava view on zero.

Meanwhile here is Dr Manjul Bhargava commentary on the pythogoras theorem.

"the requirement of a document that explicitly states the Pythagorean theorem -- the geometric theorem. That first occurs about 800 BC in India in the Shuba Sutra of Baudhayan."

"There's the first explicitly written theorem that ways that if you have a right triangle, the square of the length of the hypotenuse is the sum of the square of the length of the two legs. That is written for the first time as a theorem for a general triangle in the Shuba Sutra of Baudhayan... At least, that's the first recorded instance."

"In that sense, if you want hard scientific evidence, it's accurate to say that the Pythagorean theorem was first (recorded) in India in about 800 BC. Another standard could go beyond a mere statement," says Dr Bhargava.
 
@jamahir

Jamahir sb,

According to Muammar al Gadaffi (RA) Shakespeare was actually an Arab called Sheikh Zabir.

Regards

Muammar was wrong. Actually Shakespere was a desi immigrant named Wali Mian Sheikh Peer.

You just made up a point and tried to pass it as simple.

Keep it together, what is your point. Tou obviously went verbose and picked random talking points to avoid what was asked.
I read what you been saying, between your last three posts nothing is related, see this is where its easy to spot pseudo intelligent folks.
You just got proved fake in 2 posts.
Let’s keep going I’m free.

Sorry for the delay. Were things to do. What is your point really ? Karnataka's BJP government is now challenging the rational origins of the theorizing of Gravity unless, like I posted, Hindutvadis are correct that Gravity was discovered and employed by "Ancient Hindus" 5000 years ago in their Vimana aerial / space craft whose one copy was found by American soldiers in 2001 in an Afghan cave which had been entered to find OBL, as reported brilliantly by TV9 Bharatvarsh last year :

Big breaking news: TV9 Bharatvarsh finds Vedic monsters and airplanes in Kandahar cave​

Oh, it’s all a fantasy. Sorry to have got your hopes up.


By NL Team 25 Aug, 2021

Big breaking news: TV9 Bharatvarsh finds Vedic monsters and airplanes in Kandahar cave
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As media organisations across the world toil to cover what’s happening on the ground in Afghanistan, TV9 Bharatvarsh is busy airing fantasy reinterpretations of the 2001 Battle of Tora Bora. In the Indian TV news channel’s retelling, the supposed villain of the piece isn’t Osama Bin Laden hiding in a cave but Mahamanav, a giant from the Vedic age.

The ancient monster, depending on when you happen to catch TV9 Bharatvarsh, can look anything from the mythical Yeti to a sci-fi alien, or simply an early avatar of homo sapiens. Seemingly, the villain can as easily be replaced by an airplane from the Mahabharat age, that is about 5,000 years ago, if you were wondering.

In this TV9 fantasy, eight American soldiers entered a Kandahar cave 20 years ago – or 19, they aren’t really sure – searching for Osama and his Al Qaeda comrades. The soldiers never came out. Because, TV9 tells us, they were either devoured by the monster or – again they aren’t sure – disappeared into a “time well” which cloaks a plane from the Mahabharat era.

If you can bring yourself to sit all the way through one of the TV channel’s “reports”, you might catch the narrator mentioning that their fantasy may just be, well, a fantasy. It’s merely something they found floating in that great treasure of scholarship called social media and the channel’s editors seemingly went, ‘Wow! Will this make for a fine piece of journalism or what?! Let’s go broadcast it to the world. Quickly now!!!’

The TV9 folks probably don’t know it but their fantasy is not even original. It originated in the West, in that ancient era of 2016 when it was a giant Biblical creature doing battle with US soldiers in Kandahar. Ever the copycats, Indian “news” outlets quickly picked up the “story” and have been running with it ever since, taking care, of course, to swap Christian beasts with Hindu ones.
So what's your point ?

Open a new thread bout Dr Bhargava view on zero.

Why ? Isn't it related - Hindutvadis doing fantasy-based revisionism ? Even about gravity ? And it was you who mentioned Manjul who's a "Princeton's Fields Medal winning mathematician" so I wanted to know his ideas about Zero.
 
Muammar was wrong. Actually Shakespere was a desi immigrant named Wali Mian Sheikh Peer.



Sorry for the delay. Were things to do. What is your point really ? Karnataka's BJP government is now challenging the rational origins of the theorizing of Gravity unless, like I posted, Hindutvadis are correct that Gravity was discovered and employed by "Ancient Hindus" 5000 years ago in their Vimana aerial / space craft whose one copy was found by American soldiers in 2001 in an Afghan cave which had been entered to find OBL, as reported brilliantly by TV9 Bharatvarsh last year :

So what's your point ?



Why ? Isn't it related - Hindutvadis doing fantasy-based revisionism ? Even about gravity ? And it was you who mentioned Manjul who's a "Princeton's Fields Medal winning mathematician" so I wanted to know his ideas about Zero.

NO, its NOT related.

Anyone with basic idea of math would know that Pythagoras theorem has nothing to do with zero.

India history with zero is well known and established. However you can mail Dr Manjul Bhargava and directly ask for his views on zero.
 
It's stupid to fight over origins of basic science/mathematics.
No one is giving you any royalty for that.

It is time to apply that science for national development.
 
NO, its NOT related.

Anyone with basic idea of math would know that Pythagoras theorem has nothing to do with zero.

Related means historical revisionism based on religio-fantasy.

India history with zero is well known and established. However you can mail Dr Manjul Bhargava and directly ask for his views on zero.

I am not interested in mailing him because I know that Zero was used quite before "Ancient Indians". In Egypt for example. Please read this short document.
 
Sanghis are puppets of the cabal. They aren't following dharma. Their dharma is NWO.
 
It's stupid to fight over origins of basic science/mathematics.
No one is giving you any royalty for that.

It is time to apply that science for national development.

If it was that stupid, Plagiarism would not be such a big thing in the west.

Its like saying you don't care who your real grandfather is since you don't stand to inherit any money.

Facts, history and Reputation MATTER and they are not exclusive to National development. Or else you can next ask, do we need Toilets or do we need ISRO.

Related means historical revisionism based on religio-fantasy.



I am not interested in mailing him because I know that Zero was used quite before "Ancient Indians". In Egypt for example. Please read this short document.

Can you show me the symbol for zero in this ?

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I just have 1 recommendation - gobar-eating bhakts are welcome to send their kids to such school or education, maybe if we have less of their offsprings in other 'normal' schools, better for rest of the students.
 
Indians will go to tremendous lengths just to twist the narrative on their side, It seems Hindu mythology has education on its crosshair this time.
 

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