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Japan GDP Unexpectedly Shrinks in Q3
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Japanese economy shrank 0.4 percent from July to September, after a 1.9 percent contraction in the previous quarter. Rise in public demand and net exports were not enough to offset a decline in private demand.

Private demand declined 0.9 percent subtracting 0.7 percentage point from the growth. Private consumption, which accounts for about 60 percent of the economy, rose only 0.4 percent, a sign that an increase in Japan's sales tax to 8 percent from 5 percent in April continued to take a toll. Housing investment decreased 6.1 percent while capital spending dropped 0.2 percent. The negative contribution from private inventory was also another major factor in GDP decline.

Public demand increased 0.7 percent and added 0.2 percent to the growth. Government consumption and public investment grew 0.3 and 2.2 percent respectively.

External demand added 0.1 percentage point to the growth as gains in exports (+1.3 percent) were higher than in imports (+0.8 percent).

The third quarter gross domestic product figure translated into an annualised contraction of 1.9 percent.

Today's weaker than expected numbers are likely to force Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to rule out a promised consumption tax rise and call Lower House elections two years ahead of schedule.

Statistics Bureau of Japan | anna@tradingeconomics.com
11/17/2014 12:35:47 AM




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Japan slips into surprise recession - The Malaysian Insider

Japan's economy unexpectedly slipped into recession in the third quarter, setting the stage for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to delay an unpopular sales tax hike and call a snap election just two years after he took office.

Gross domestic product fell at an annualised 1.6% pace in the July-September period, after it plunged 7.3% in the second quarter following a rise in the national sales tax.

Abe had said he would look at the data when deciding whether to press ahead with a second increase in the sales tax to 10% in October next year, as part of a plan to curb Japan's huge public debt, the worst among advanced nations.

"It's much weaker than we expected," said Kenichiro Yoshida, senior economist at Mizuho Research Institute. "The growth of consumption is very weak; that's one reason that the government may decide to delay the sales tax."

Japanese media have said the prime minister, who returns from a week-long tour to China, Myanmar and Australia on Monday, could announce his decision to delay the hike as early as Tuesday and state his intention to call a poll, which ruling party lawmakers expect to be held on December 14.

Etsuro Honda, an economic adviser to Abe who opposes the tax rise, has said that if growth was under 3.8%, raising the tax rate would be "out of the question".

The yen slipped on the surprise result, with the dollar briefly pushing to a seven-year high above 117 yen, and Tokyo stocks opened modestly weaker.

Sluggish economic growth and downward pressure on prices due to declining global oil prices prompted the Bank of Japan to expand its massive monetary stimulus last month.

No election for parliament's powerful lower house need be held until late 2016, but political insiders say Abe wants to lock in his mandate while his ratings are still relatively robust, helping him push ahead with economic and other policies such a controversial shift away from Japan's post-war pacifism.

"This will not be an election about the sales taxn but to seek support for a push forward with 'Abenomics'," said a Japanese government official, adding the final decision was up to Abe.

Abe's Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) looks certain to keep its majority in the lower house, since the opposition is divided and weak, but it could lose seats.

Abe inherited the sales tax plan when he took power in December 2012, pledging to revive the economy with his 'Abenomics' mix of easy monetary policy, spending and reforms.

The LDP, its smaller ally and the then-ruling Democratic Party, enacted the legislation requiring the tax to be raised unless economic conditions were judged too weak.

On a quarter-on-quarter basis, the economy shrank 0.4% in the third quarter, following a contraction of 1.8% in the second quarter. Recessions are typically defined as two or more consecutive quarters of economic contraction.

Private consumption, which accounts for about 60% of the economy, rose 0.4% from the previous quarter, in a sign that the April tax increase to 8% from 5% had a stronger and more lingering impact on spending than initially expected. – Reuters, November 17, 2014.
 
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Haha I remember that as well. :P

Whenever they are selling some big doom and gloom story about China, then usually we do really well ourselves.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if some of the biggest "China collapse" story peddlers were false flaggers actually on the Chinese government payroll? Not only would they be making certain Westerners complacent with their constant stream of "China weak!" stories, they'd be ripping them off for tons of money too. :dance3:
 
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Like i said, where have they all gone hiding? Once again China's rise is inevitable, those morons thought our factory workers would be out of work, the country will crumble. :lol:

Thanks to Abe, our GDP will become at least 5 times as large as Japan's by 2020.

And hopefully their people will still vote for him.
 
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if some of the biggest "China collapse" story peddlers were false flaggers actually on the Chinese government payroll? Not only would they be making certain Westerners complacent with their constant stream of "China weak!" stories, they'd be ripping them off for tons of money too. :dance3:

Yeah I don't buy Gordon Chang's story.

He has a Chinese father and American mother. The father runs away when he is young, so he is bitter towards China?

The stuff he sells is such contrived BS that I can't believe foreigners actually buy it. But they do.

It doesn't matter if he is secretly working for us or not, but he is helping us by selling all these China doom stories. Not only does it allow the rest of the world to underestimate us (as per Deng Xiaoping's theory), it also takes geostrategic pressure off of us, making the "China rising" story a lot less scary.

Not to mention, a lot of "China collapse" stories have real issues inside them (such as over leveraging) that need urgent attention by the decision makers in Zhongnanhai. In fact that kind of pressure is good, because it helps us fix our problems before they get out of control.

Benefits us all-around.
 
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Yeah I don't buy Gordon Chang's story.

He has a Chinese father and American mother. The father runs away when he is young, so he is bitter towards China?

The stuff he sells is such contrived BS that I can't believe foreigners actually buy it. But they do.

It doesn't matter if he is secretly working for us or not, but he is helping us by selling all these China doom stories. Not only does it allow the rest of the world to underestimate us (as per Deng Xiaoping's theory), it also takes geostrategic pressure off of us, making the "China rising" story a lot less scary.

Not to mention, a lot of "China collapse" stories have real issues inside them (such as over leveraging) that need urgent attention by the decision makers in Zhongnanhai. In fact that kind of pressure is good, because it helps us fix our problems before they get out of control.

Benefits us all-around.

Gordon Chang is undoubtedly a brilliant business person. He hates China but he also knows that his audience does as well. So he writes what they want to hear and charges them handsomely for it. Never mind that he's been consistently wrong on China for decades. His audience doesn't care about that. They want the "China doom and gloom" to keep coming because it makes them feel less scared about a world that's changing around them. This kind of complacency actually benefits China and hastens the demise of the very world that those types of Westerners want to be told is still thriving.
 
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Gordon Chang is undoubtedly a brilliant business person. He hates China but he also knows that his audience does as well. So he writes what they want to hear and charges them handsomely for it. Never mind that he's been consistently wrong on China for decades. His audience doesn't care about that. They want the "China doom and gloom" to keep coming because it makes them feel less scared about a world that's changing around them. This kind of complacency actually benefits China and hastens the demise of the very world that those types of Westerners want to be told is still thriving.

Absolutely. :tup: I think @TaiShang will agree with us on this as well.
 
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Perhaps the GDP went down due to unnecessary , war mongering by Japan and threatening Russia. Not to mention throwing away 30 billion dollars into India again not needed specially since Japanese economy needed that money locally

Because how else can you explain it , world is doing well , people are buying cars and buying Sony Playstations and people are watching Japanese anime and buying bulk load stuff from Japan

Quite shocking considering so many people buying Toyota / Honda and other stuff

Japan really should have stayed neutral member in world
 
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Thanks to Abe, our GDP will become at least 5 times as large as Japan's by 2020.

And hopefully their people will still vote for him.

Abe is a total fool. Rather than antagonize China at a time where Japan is economically and strategically weakening, he should have worked more closely with China. The island dispute was the last thing China or Japan needed. The dispute should have stayed on the back burner but no, nationalistic Abe and his cronies had to push the issue (rather than smoothing things out after Ishihara started the whole mess) and now look at where we are.

China has wrung concessions from Japan about the Islands being in "dispute", established an ADIZ, and sent so many patrol vessels to the island that their presence is more or less accepted. All at a time when Japan is economically vulnerable due to the dismal failure of Abenomics. And the people of both China and Japan have never held such low opinions of one another in recent years. This was all totally unnecessary.

IMO, the quicker Abe is drummed out of office, the quicker Chinese/Japanese relations can be put on a more positive trajectory.
 
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Perhaps the GDP went down due to unnecessary , war mongering by Japan and threatening Russia. Not to mention throwing away 30 billion dollars into India again not needed specially since Japanese economy needed that money locally

Because how else can you explain it , world is doing well , people are buying cars and buying Sony Playstations and people are wathing Japanese anime and buying bulk load stuff from Japan

As I've mentioned before, the Japanese people are diligent and hardworking. But their government ...sometimes their government spends money like a drunken sailor. The peoples money, that is. :disagree:
 
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I read some where that Japan also has huge debt similar to that of USA , that banks simply "create" money and loan out stuff to government

Its strange however because Japanese banks also loan money to International consumers etc

Its not possible to imagine how can countries be under so much debt yet continue to take more loans

Again , the situation in Japan may be different and its hard to know how its different then USA
Unless we get explanation of the local market

But still strange because Japan creates all these cell phones, new technology solutions , robotics and other high end stuff and entertainment stuff like video games etc

One thing that did happen this year was ban on Chinese Tourist to Japan or something like that was that true ? As Chinese tourist brought billions into Japanese economy
 
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