Japan may send SDF to Senkakus

[Plexyre]

@HongWu and Chinese members: Could you please explain the Chinese position and the history of the territorial dispute between China and Japan over the Diaoyutai/Diaoyu islands.

It seems the Russia and Japan have a territorial dispute over some of the Kuril islands.

I'll begin with some background information. The Diaoyudao/Diaoyutai were administered by Taiwan Province prior to its annexation by Japan. The Imperial Japanese government annexed the Ryukyu Kingdom in 1879 as part of Japan. In the next decade Japan conducted scientific and geographical surveys of the area and beyond. At the time Japan refused to incorporate the Diaoyudao/Diaoyutai into Okinawa prefecture, wary of drawing the suspicion of the Qing Empire to its activities and motives.

The history of the territorial dispute over the Diaoyu Islands/Diaoyutai began in earnest when Japan annexed Taiwan and its outlying islands under the Treaty of Shimonoseki in 1895 after defeating the Qing forces in the first Sino-Japanese War. The Diaoyudao/Diaoyutai were then incorporated into the Okinawa prefecture as part of the Ryukyu Islands. After Japan's surrender under the terms of the Potsdam declaration at the end of WWII, Japanese sovereignty was limited to the four major islands: Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, and Shikoku and limited minor islands. The Ryukyu Islands were to be administered by the United States which had taken control of them earlier in the war.

When the United States handed the Ryukyu Islands back to Japanese administration in 1971, it also turned the Diaoyudao/Diaoyutai over to Japan. China's position on the islands is that they are part of the Taiwan province, while Taiwan views the islands as part of its sovereign territory.

The Kuril Islands dispute goes back to the end of WWII, when the Soviet Union invaded and annexed the islands Etorofu, Habomai, Kunashiri, and Shikotan. Today the dispute remains a point of contention between Japan and Russia.

Also worth mentioning is that Japan claims the Liancourt Rocks, also known as Dokdo in Korea and Takeshima in Japan, which is controlled by South Korea. North Korea and South Korea both vigorously support Korean sovereignty over Dokdo.

 

[T-Rex]

Noda says Japan may send SDF to Senkakus

Jiji Press

Japan may send Self-Defense Forces to the Senkaku Islands if a neighboring nation engages in illegal acts within territorial waters around the islets, Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said Thursday.

"The government will respond in a resolute manner, including use of the SDF, if an unlawful act involving any neighbor state takes place in Japanese territory or waters, including the Senkaku Islands," Noda told a House of Representatives plenary meeting.

Given the historic and legal standpoints, "there is no doubt that the Senkaku Islands are Japan's inherent territory," Noda stressed, adding that the nation effectively controls the islets.

Japan will patrol the islands and waters around them by utilizing all relevant government agencies, he said.

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Fujimura waters down remark

Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura on Friday tried to play down Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's remark that Japan may send Self-Defense Force personnel to the Senkaku Islands in an effort to cope with illegal activities by neighboring countries.

At a press conference, Fujimura said, "In my understanding, the prime minister only referred to a theoretical possibility," brushing off views that Noda's comment was intended as a warning to China, which has been expanding its maritime activities.

(Jul. 28, 2012)

Noda says Japan may send SDF to Senkakus : National : DAILY YOMIURI ONLINE (The Daily Yomiuri)


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SDF to defend Senkakus if necessary: Morimoto
Kyodo, Jiji
Defense Minister Satoshi Morimoto indicated Friday that if necessary the Self-Defense Forces can be mobilized to defend the Senkaku Islands, which are controlled by Japan but claimed by China and Taiwan.

Commenting on repeated incursions by Chinese ships into Japanese territorial waters around the islands in the East China Sea, Morimoto told a news conference, "Action by the SDF is secured by law in cases where the Japan Coast Guard or police cannot respond."

Morimoto also said sending the SDF to the uninhabited isles would be "a reasonable measure" under the country's legal framework.

During a Diet session Thursday, Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said that "if illegal activities occur inside our nation's lands or waters, including the Senkaku Islands, the government as a whole will make resolute responses, including using the SDF if necessary."

Under law, the coast guard and police usually respond to incursions into Japanese territory. If they can't adequately respond themselves, however, the SDF may be mobilized.

Meanwhile, Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura tried Friday to water down Noda's remark. "I understand the prime minister only referred to a theoretical possibility," he told reporters, brushing aside the view that Noda's remark was a warning to China over what is seen as its increasing sea provocations.

Concerns over Beijing's growing assertiveness in the East China Sea have been intensifying since a clash in 2010 between two Japanese patrol boats and a Chinese trawler near the Senkakus.

SDF to defend Senkakus if necessary: Morimoto | The Japan Times Online

Japan will think of it but I'm pretty sure they are not that stupid to try it. Japan and her master know all too well what will follow. So, these are just pep talks. Our Chinese friends shouldn't worry.

 

[Abhishek_]

hahaha, I think if you read the OP you'd know it's the Japanese says they are ready to send in their JDSF, our ships are there, WHERE ARE THEY??? OHHH!!!!

fail, the japanese coast guard was enough to make the toothless PLAN run away

 

[dunhill]

fail, the japanese coast guard was enough to make the toothless PLAN run away

I believe so .... well said !!!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Japan will think of it but I'm pretty sure they are not that stupid to try it. Japan and her master know all too well what will follow. So, these are just pep talks. Our Chinese friends shouldn't worry.

We are waiting for that moment, let's see who will have the last stand.

 

[ephone]

Since it is our territory, why don't we do a ICBM test with diaoyu islands as the target starting from the deserts somewhere inside China?

That perfectly makes sense.

 

[Zero_wing]

With people or without people as targets?

 

[$@rJen]

Wow? That's rock? When it will happens?

I just don't want to see China Navy's ship got sink again like its was before by Japanese. (1 August 1894 – 17 April 1895 Qing Dynasty China and Meiji Japan)

OOHHHH tell japs not to Sink it, Or after thousand years they'll claim the sea because they found a chinese ship there

 

[ephone]

We will make announcements and make regular target practices. If anyone dare to cross the line, they will be the target unfortunately.

With people or without people as targets?

 

[ephone]

How about they try?

We have our surveillance ships there. We have our nuke submarines there as well. We really want the japs to try that.

fail, the japanese coast guard was enough to make the toothless PLAN run away

 

[ephone]

Well, japs have been defeated for more than one thousand years after numerous tries invading China. The last success by the japs indeed led them to get two nukes.

So they may try again. I bet this time it won't be that few falling on them.

As for vn, also a victim of WWII. If you enjoy staying with the japs, I hope you will enjoy another massacre by them as well. It seems you did have a short memory and have totally forgotten how your axxes were burned by the french, and u.s. and how your women were raped, burned to death. What a pathetic bunch of idiots.

Wow? That's rock? When it will happens?

I just don't want to see China Navy's ship got sink again like its was before by Japanese. (1 August 1894 – 17 April 1895 Qing Dynasty China and Meiji Japan)

 

[Abhishek_]

How about they try?

We have our surveillance ships there. We have our nuke submarines there as well. We really want the japs to try that.

lol, you lot are good for throwing stones at embassies. that's about it.
meanwhile Japan has made a mockery of your territorial integrity.

 

[Fanling Monk]

1,000 Chinese boats headed for Senkakus:

Well organized fleets......looks like ants going going for the elephant

BEIJING — Around 1,000 Chinese fishing boats are expected to arrive in waters near the Senkaku Islands claimed by China later Monday, the state-run China National Radio reported, in what may be Beijing's additional countermeasures over Japan's nationalization of the islets.

If a large number of Chinese vessels intrude into Japanese territorial waters around the Japanese-controlled islands in the East China Sea, it could trigger unexpected incidents such as clashes with Japan Coast Guard patrol ships, further escalating tensions between the two countries.

The radio station said in an online edition that Chinese fisheries authorities will monitor the fishing boats' activities near the uninhabited islets, which Beijing calls Diaoyu, via a marine observation satellite.

The 1,000 boats from coastal provinces such as Zhejiang and Fujian may be joined by six Chinese surveillance ships that have been staying in nearby waters since intruding into Japanese territorial waters near the islands Friday.

Meanwhile, anti-Japan protests continued in Beijing for the seventh straight day on Monday, but were much smaller than the mass demonstrations — some violent — that took place across China over the weekend.

As police tightened security around the Japanese Embassy, about 200 people on Monday marched on a street in front of the embassy, protesting the Japanese government's announcement on Tuesday last week that it put the islands under state control by signing a purchase contract with the owner of three of the islands, a Japanese individual.

Some of the protests on Saturday and Sunday involved vandalism, looting and arson targeting Japanese factories, stores and restaurants operating in the country.

Anti-Japan protests are likely to continue up to the 81st anniversary on Tuesday of the start of the 1931 Mukden Incident, also known as the Manchurian Incident, in which the Imperial Japanese Army blew up a Japanese railway in southern Manchuria to serve as a pretext for invading northeastern China.

Japan maintains the Senkaku Islands are an integral part of Japanese territory and that there are no territorial disputes between the two countries. Taiwan also claims sovereignty over the islands, which are known as Tiaoyutai to the Taiwanese.

1,000 Chinese boats headed for Senkakus: report | The Japan Times Online

 

[terranMarine]

Just look at those boats marching all the way towards Diaoyu island just like an army of ants. It's too early to say what will happen as all depends on the Japanese side but all cards are open including military actions if they go along with their so called purchase. In the mean time Chinese in America have shown great support and Taiwanese too are protesting. Russia is also monitoring the situation closely as they too have disputes with Japan.

 

[Fanling Monk]

Just look at those boats marching all the way towards Diaoyu island just like an army of ants. It's too early to say what will happen as all depends on the Japanese side but all cards are open including military actions if they go along with their so called purchase. In the mean time Chinese in America have shown great support and Taiwanese too are protesting. Russia is also monitoring the situation closely as they too have disputes with Japan.

Remember we only used a few of them to keep what's the name that US spy ship out? The Americans never came near our shores again since.