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@SvenSvensonov , I also think that adding the stealth masts would be perfect for the DEX!


Interesting concept drawing. I foresee several improvements, that the drawing omitted, actually showing up on the DEX prototype, or its equivalent counterpart.

First, an AESA volume search radar, the SPY-1 (and similar AESA radars) is not a targeting radar - it's a search radar. Typically volume search radars operate in the low-frequencies... such as S-band and this gives them good performance against low-visibility targets. High frequency radars tend to be to targeting and telemetry and are smaller in size, such as the radar mounted on the CWIS/SeaRAM. AESA, preferably with a GaN and not a GaAs base will be more beneficial to maximize power output. Also, AESA has the benefit of enhanced electronic attack... though older radars such as the old SPY-1 could do so as well.

Luckily for Japan they already make naval AESA radars... such as this system onboard JS Hamagiri.

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Navy's Next Generation Radar Could Have Future Electronic Attack Abilities - USNI News

Second, the drawing doesn't feature a VLS system, and Japan should opt for the cold-launch method. Cold Launch minimized a ships IR profile, but increases the amount of space the VLS needs in a ship by requiring more plumbing.

If Japan really wants to emulate the US LCS, then a modular, "plug-and-play" type system would be needed to rapidly change the profile and weapons/sensor load-out of the ships.
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Third, the drawing doesn't feature an aft view, but Japan should opt for high-performance pump-jets instead of the traditional screw and prop. These systems provide increased speed, maneuverability and decreased acoustic and IR signatures.

No wake for wake homing torpedoes to find, just some bubbles that rapidly dissipate.
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Fourth, that mast has got to go. The trend these days is towards enclosed, high stealth masts.

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Finally, a stealth gun is needed.

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The concept for the DEX is great. An LCS type ship can fill the light-destroyer, frigate and cutter role.
 
Hello everyone,

This is a good video that shows some footage of the JMSDF armaments, do enjoy !


PS. Some Pirates of the Caribbean Music!

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Can you please summarize this in English?

In this discussion there is a debate about the presumed excellence and capability of the Chinese Military, particularly the PLAAF (People’s Liberation Army Air Force) when compared to the capability of the Japanese Air Self Defense Force (the speaker is emphasizing of the excellence of the JSDF). There is realization that the Chinese Military has definitely experienced advances in quality of units, thanks in part to the increase in defense spending these past 10 years. However, despite its number, there is question of its qualitative performance since there is questionable performance of their fighter pilots. There is also great worry that the continued provocation of Chinese fighters near the Senkakus will lead to conflagration with the JSDF, due to the provocation of air units.
 
A Discussion on Japan's Military Export Plans, and a discussion on its implications on certain neighbors, particularly South Korea:


Summary: The Japanese military export is expected to pose a threat to the Korean defense industry, to Japan's favor.
 
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How China Strengthens Japan’s Navy


Two takeaways linger from the Naval Diplomat’s trip to Yokosuka a couple of weeks back, which included a visit to the destroyer JDS Murasame. First: Japanese mariners grok the value of naval diplomacy. Appearances matter in maritime affairs, and so diplomatic outreach demands showmanship. Indeed, the routine ship tour — a humdrum chore that provokes grousing from junior officers and enlisted crewmen everywhere — turns out to be a handy if not indispensable political implement. This larger purpose was largely lost on me during my time in uniform, when I was saddled with my share of ship tours. Tours were tedium! With no point other than kissing up to muckety-mucks!!! Or so it seemed.

Done right, though, naval outreach impresses visitors. It shapes perceptions among audiences able to influence a nation’s nautical destiny. Think about it. The ability to prevail in combat is the true audit of a navy’s adequacy. In peacetime, however, it’s tough to gauge the efficacy of a man-of-war, or its armament. Crews expend practice rounds in maneuvers, but there’s a canned quality to peacetime exercises. The atmosphere of war — danger, chance and confusion, stark passions like fear and spite — is hard to replicate absent a thinking adversary who returns fire. The best exercises, then, are doubtful indices of military effectiveness.

If naval leaders want to burnish their fleet’s reputation for seamanship and combat prowess, consequently, presenting ships and aircraft well represents their best substitute for battle results. The look of a ship matters. Granted, the best-looking fleet may not be the most capable. It’s possible to spend too much time and effort making a ship a showboat, to the detriment of battle efficiency. All else being equal, however, bet on the contender that deploys clean, tidy, rust-free warships against a fleet of rustbuckets. Good upkeep projects an image of competence and pride. In all likelihood, a well-kept vessel is a well-handled vessel. A slovenly vessel? Fuggedaboutit.

The JMSDF presents itself well. Murasame appeared immaculate to this mariner’s eye, both inside and out. (Sample size of one ship at one time, I grant you; but that’s true of all such visits.) The captain and officers turned out in dress blues, while the squadron commander joined us for lunch. (“Imperial Japanese curry” was on the menu; let the conspiracy theories commence.) Like any good diplomat, moreover, the ship made good use of happenstance. The spokesman for the ship was a doughty young sea fighter who spent most of his life in … Narragansett, Rhode Island. That’s about twenty miles from the Naval Diplomat’s lair somewhere alongside the Narragansett Bay. A Japanese petty officer with a New England accent — you can’t make such things up.

Second takeaway: China’s navy, coast guard, and fishing fleet — the official and unofficial elements of Chinese sea power — are running the JMSDF ragged in the East China Sea, as Beijing tries to wrench control of the Senkaku Islands from Tokyo and otherwise make the China seas its preserve. Where Chinese vessels go, Japanese ships must follow to preserve effective control of the Senkakus and adjoining waters. China holds the initiative, and it boasts many, many vessels. Small-stick diplomacy remains Beijing’s strategy of the hour.

The imperative to police southwestern waters translates into a helter-skelter operating tempo for JMSDF ships and aircraft. Murasame officers report spending 25 more days at sea in 2013 than in 2012, and the pace is far from slackening. The ship, then, is spending fully half of each year riding the waves. That amount of at-sea time spells more wear-and-tear on hardware, bigger fuel and maintenance bills, and longer stretches away from families and friends.

But there is an upside. Going to sea is how sailors learn the ins and outs of their profession. More steaming days gives Japanese crewmen more time to hone their skills, and China’s tactics supply the incentive to do so. Lord Nelson cracked wise about Great Britain’s blockade of France during the Napoleonic Wars. Nelson conceded that Royal Navy ships took a beating in heavy weather, but he insisted that near-constant blockade duty refined Jack Tar’s seamanship. Meanwhile, French sailors remained in port, doing…. Well, you can imagine what sailors do when confined to port with little to do. French prowess atrophied, and the navy suffered repeated thrashings at British hands.

China’s strategy in the East China Sea is taking its toll on Japanese resources. But should it come to armed conflict, Beijing may rue forcing JMSDF crews to spend so much time practicing tactics and shiphandling. It may be unwittingly honing an adversary’s skills while steeling his resolve.


How China Strengthens Japan’s Navy | The Diplomat
 
Exclusive - Japan eyes military aid to spur defense exports, build security ties: sources

Japan is considering creating a government-backed financing arm for weapons exports, a move that would accelerate Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's shift away from the country's pacifist past and strengthen Tokyo's regional security ties as China's military power grows.

As a first step, the government plans to convene an advisory panel to consider specific proposals to create a way to finance military sales by Japanese firms and fund defense industry cooperation abroad, four people involved told Reuters.

One possibility to be considered is for a government-backed body to provide concessional financing for military projects modeled on the self-financing Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), said the people involved.


They asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of talks on a move that would likely upset China, where memories of Japan's wartime past run deep and which has already criticized Abe's decision in April to end a decades-old ban on arms exports.

Japan's Defense Ministry declined to comment. "We are considering a number of options in regard to defense equipment, but as of yet, nothing has been decided," a spokesman said in response to a question from Reuters.

Abe dissolved parliament last week and called lower house elections for Dec. 14, which his Liberal Democratic Party and its coalition partner are expected to win.

The advisory panel would meet after the election. It would comprise about 10 members, including a legal and a banking expert as well as academics and defense industry executives, people involved said.

"The panel will look at everything from finance to finding deals, the negotiating process and maintenance and support," one of the sources said.

JBIC issues its own bonds to finance energy projects. Overseen by the Finance Ministry it also helps Japanese industrial firms expand abroad by providing loans for overseas customers to buy Japanese machinery.

JICA is the Foreign Ministry's main conduit for dispersing much of the nation's $17 billion in annual overseas development aid. The agency builds schools and hospitals and finances agriculture and health projects, with Japanese engineers, nurses and other experts often involved.

Other ideas under consideration include adding a financing arm to a defense procurement agency planned for next year or to expand JBIC's remit to cover military projects.

Kawasaki Heavy Industries, which builds aircraft and submarines, last year told Reuters it had approached JBIC about possibly financing foreign sales of a civilian version of its C-2 military transport plane.


SUBMARINES TO SEAPLANES

A number of potential deals under discussion in recent months could benefit from concessional financing from Tokyo.

They include a possible sale of state-of-the-art submarines to Australia, US-2 patrol seaplanes to India and the development in Japan with foreign companies of a troop carrying helicopter.

Defense bureaucrats are also looking at joint development projects with Southeast Asia that would build military industrial ties that in turn would strengthen security cooperation and act as a counterweight to China.

Such officials have already traveled to Indonesia and Malaysia to assess the potential for deals, the sources added.

Abe's government in September also invited representatives from the region to a seminar in Tokyo to promote defense industry cooperation. The diplomats were taken to a shipyard near Tokyo building minesweepers, according to one of the delegates who spoke to Reuters.

Despite the enthusiasm from Abe's government, many Japanese corporations have been reluctant to push into overseas deals for weapons systems, people involved say.

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries at the start of the year entered a tentative agreement to build a rear fuselage component for Britain's BAE Systems, one of the companies building theLockheed Martin Corp F-35 stealth fighter.

Talks, however, collapsed because the Japanese firm was worried about potential losses on a tightly priced deal without government backing.

In Japan's highly fractured defense industry, few companies rely on military sales for more than a few percent of income and firms that make military equipment rarely publicize such business lines.

Among them: ball-bearing maker Minebea also makes 9 millimeter pistols. Daikin Industries, a leading maker of air conditioners also fabricates rifle grenades, and Komatsu Ltd, which sells its yellow excavators around the world, builds armored vehicles.

"It's not up to us to promote our defense business, the government has to decide what it wants to do, and it has to be something that Japanese citizens are comfortable with," Hideaki Omiya, chairman of Mitsubishi Heavy, told Reuters in October. "We are not proactively going overseas to sell our products."


@Nihonjin1051 - I've tagged you a lot recently, but like a crazy ex-girlfriend I need your attention... and in this case your views would be nice too:D More aid. Is this the way to go considering the problems with Japan's existing aid programs?
 
Exclusive - Japan eyes military aid to spur defense exports, build security ties: sources

Japan is considering creating a government-backed financing arm for weapons exports, a move that would accelerate Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's shift away from the country's pacifist past and strengthen Tokyo's regional security ties as China's military power grows.

As a first step, the government plans to convene an advisory panel to consider specific proposals to create a way to finance military sales by Japanese firms and fund defense industry cooperation abroad, four people involved told Reuters.

One possibility to be considered is for a government-backed body to provide concessional financing for military projects modeled on the self-financing Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), said the people involved.


They asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of talks on a move that would likely upset China, where memories of Japan's wartime past run deep and which has already criticized Abe's decision in April to end a decades-old ban on arms exports.

Japan's Defense Ministry declined to comment. "We are considering a number of options in regard to defense equipment, but as of yet, nothing has been decided," a spokesman said in response to a question from Reuters.

Abe dissolved parliament last week and called lower house elections for Dec. 14, which his Liberal Democratic Party and its coalition partner are expected to win.

The advisory panel would meet after the election. It would comprise about 10 members, including a legal and a banking expert as well as academics and defense industry executives, people involved said.

"The panel will look at everything from finance to finding deals, the negotiating process and maintenance and support," one of the sources said.

JBIC issues its own bonds to finance energy projects. Overseen by the Finance Ministry it also helps Japanese industrial firms expand abroad by providing loans for overseas customers to buy Japanese machinery.

JICA is the Foreign Ministry's main conduit for dispersing much of the nation's $17 billion in annual overseas development aid. The agency builds schools and hospitals and finances agriculture and health projects, with Japanese engineers, nurses and other experts often involved.

Other ideas under consideration include adding a financing arm to a defense procurement agency planned for next year or to expand JBIC's remit to cover military projects.

Kawasaki Heavy Industries, which builds aircraft and submarines, last year told Reuters it had approached JBIC about possibly financing foreign sales of a civilian version of its C-2 military transport plane.


SUBMARINES TO SEAPLANES

A number of potential deals under discussion in recent months could benefit from concessional financing from Tokyo.

They include a possible sale of state-of-the-art submarines to Australia, US-2 patrol seaplanes to India and the development in Japan with foreign companies of a troop carrying helicopter.

Defense bureaucrats are also looking at joint development projects with Southeast Asia that would build military industrial ties that in turn would strengthen security cooperation and act as a counterweight to China.

Such officials have already traveled to Indonesia and Malaysia to assess the potential for deals, the sources added.

Abe's government in September also invited representatives from the region to a seminar in Tokyo to promote defense industry cooperation. The diplomats were taken to a shipyard near Tokyo building minesweepers, according to one of the delegates who spoke to Reuters.

Despite the enthusiasm from Abe's government, many Japanese corporations have been reluctant to push into overseas deals for weapons systems, people involved say.

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries at the start of the year entered a tentative agreement to build a rear fuselage component for Britain's BAE Systems, one of the companies building theLockheed Martin Corp F-35 stealth fighter.

Talks, however, collapsed because the Japanese firm was worried about potential losses on a tightly priced deal without government backing.

In Japan's highly fractured defense industry, few companies rely on military sales for more than a few percent of income and firms that make military equipment rarely publicize such business lines.

Among them: ball-bearing maker Minebea also makes 9 millimeter pistols. Daikin Industries, a leading maker of air conditioners also fabricates rifle grenades, and Komatsu Ltd, which sells its yellow excavators around the world, builds armored vehicles.

"It's not up to us to promote our defense business, the government has to decide what it wants to do, and it has to be something that Japanese citizens are comfortable with," Hideaki Omiya, chairman of Mitsubishi Heavy, told Reuters in October. "We are not proactively going overseas to sell our products."


@Nihonjin1051 - I've tagged you a lot recently, but like a crazy ex-girlfriend I need your attention... and in this case your views would be nice too:D More aid. Is this the way to go considering the problems with Japan's existing aid programs?


My response to your figurative language comparison of our "online" therapeutic relationship: :omghaha:...o_O lol


On a serious note, @SvenSvensonov , if the Japanese Government is serious on financing military projects modeled on the JIBC and JICA apparatus, then one thing that the Government in Tokyo need to consider and also implement the same anti-corruption initiatives as seen in the 2009 Vietnam-Japan Committee on Anti-ODA Corrupiton. I support this urging by the government , this is exactly what is needed to spearhead Japan's military defense industry and exports. Given we've no history in exporting military arms en masse, this is necessary to build favor amongst potential customers. I'd like the Government to focus on immediate partners such as the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Brunei, Vietnam, Myanmar, Australia.

For those who described Japan's pledge of support was more "talk" than "action". Boo ya!
 
My response to your figurative language comparison of our "online" therapeutic relationship: :omghaha:...o_O lol


On a serious note, @SvenSvensonov , if the Japanese Government is serious on financing military projects modeled on the JIBC and JICA apparatus, then one thing that the Government in Tokyo need to consider and also implement the same anti-corruption initiatives as seen in the 2009 Vietnam-Japan Committee on Anti-ODA Corrupiton. I support this urging by the government , this is exactly what is needed to spearhead Japan's military defense industry and exports. Given we've no history in exporting military arms en masse, this is necessary to build favor amongst potential customers. I'd like the Government to focus on immediate partners such as the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Brunei, Vietnam, Myanmar, Australia.

For those who described Japan's pledge of support was more "talk" than "action". Boo ya!

Figurative my comment definitely was... though it seemed appropriate given the amount of tagging I have done to several people recently... kind of stalker-esque :partay:

As far as the actual topic, what would Japan even offer in its aid packages? Joint ventures would be a great way to not only promote strong military ties with a country like Vietnam, but they would greatly benefit both nations economies as well. I don't see this as realistic given the industrial state of many regional nations, their inability to produce large military projects, but it could be a first start.

Also, to lessen Japan's financial burden they could always transfer more of their older assets to neighboring nations, thus paving the way for future assets to be build using the money saved. But this would cause political backlash in a region that has nations that resent a militaristic Japan.

What's the most likely scenario for military aid? Could we see Japanese troops helping with regional insurgencies, just like they did in Iraq at the request of the US military.

And yes, for those that don't know Japanese troops were in Iraq: Ten Years Ago, Japan Went to Iraq … And Learned Nothing — War Is Boring — Medium

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Figurative my comment definitely was... though it seemed appropriate given the amount of tagging I have done to several people recently... kind of stalker-esque.

As far as the actual topic, what would Japan even offer in its aid packages? Joint ventures would be a great way to not only promote strong military ties with a country like Vietnam, but they would greatly benefit both nations economies. I don't see this as realistic given the industrial state of many regional nations, their inability to produce large military projects, but it could be a first start.

Also, to lessen Japan's financial burden they could always transfer more of their older assets to neighboring nations, thus paving the way for future assets to be build using the money saved.

I think the best way to do this is to allow the sales of old assets , or provide financial loans to purchase Japanese naval , land, or air inventory. Recently, Japan was able to provide coast guard ships for Vietnam and Philippines, however, from what I've read from the Filipino and Vietnamese posters here , they all seem to wish Japan provided more qualitative materiel.

There is a potential for joint military research with partners such as Australia, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam.
 
JMSDF’s 2nd Escort Ship’s Curry Grand Prix in Yokosuka

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JMSDF has a custom of serving curried rice to the crew of the escort ships on Fridays and each ship has its own characteristic curry. Therefore, this time the special competition of those curried rice dishes was held and ordinary civilians were able to join the festival to eat and vote for one of the dishes. Each dish cost 500 yen. Totally, 15 ships (15 types of curried rice) joined the event and “Strong taste curry”(/濃厚味わいカレー)of the Yokosuka Submarine Fleet won the grand prix. No.2 was “Choukai Special Seafood Curry”(/ちょうかい特製シーフードカレー) of Escort Ship Choukai and No.3 was “The Curry tasted by the Prime Minister”(/内閣総理大臣喫食カレー). actually there are a lot of curried rice rstaurants that provide various curry dishes in Yokosuka. Coincidentally, I was in Yokosuka on that April 19th and saw a lot of people standing in lines waiting for their turns to come in front of popular curry restaurants in that city.
 
JMSDF’s 2nd Escort Ship’s Curry Grand Prix in Yokosuka

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JMSDF has a custom of serving curried rice to the crew of the escort ships on Fridays and each ship has its own characteristic curry. Therefore, this time the special competition of those curried rice dishes was held and ordinary civilians were able to join the festival to eat and vote for one of the dishes. Each dish cost 500 yen. Totally, 15 ships (15 types of curried rice) joined the event and “Strong taste curry”(/濃厚味わいカレー)of the Yokosuka Submarine Fleet won the grand prix. No.2 was “Choukai Special Seafood Curry”(/ちょうかい特製シーフードカレー) of Escort Ship Choukai and No.3 was “The Curry tasted by the Prime Minister”(/内閣総理大臣喫食カレー). actually there are a lot of curried rice rstaurants that provide various curry dishes in Yokosuka. Coincidentally, I was in Yokosuka on that April 19th and saw a lot of people standing in lines waiting for their turns to come in front of popular curry restaurants in that city.

I see a pretty lady, the words "escort ship" - yep, that brought an entirely different image to mind.

Something like this:
:bunny::bunny::bunny:

And with me like:
:yahoo::smitten::angel:
 
JGSDF Planning to build military site in Yonaguni Island (translated)

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沖縄県与那国町議会(糸数健一議長、定数6)は17日、臨時会を開き、「与那国島への『自衛隊基地建設』の民意を問う住民投票に関する条例」案を賛 成3、反対2の賛成多数で可決しました。与那国島への陸上自衛隊の沿岸監視部隊の配備の賛否が、住民投票で問われることになります。
 住民投票は中学生以上が対象となるほか、3カ月以上同町に住所を有する永住外国人も参加できます。条例の施行日から60日以内に町長が実施します。

 条例案に賛成した崎元俊男町議(無所属)は「造成工事などが始まっており、住民の意思が直接確認されないまま、なし崩し的に進められてしまいそうな流れだったので、国に対して住民一人ひとりの意思を示すためにも可決されてほっとしている」と述べました。

 同町への自衛隊配備の問題をめぐっては、2012年にも全有権者の半数近い署名が集まり住民投票が求められましたが、議会で否決されていました。

 防衛省は15年度予算概算要求で宿舎整備費2億円を計上しており、同省幹部は17日、部隊配備の準備を予定通り進める考えを示しました。


陸上自衛隊配備問う/与那国 住民投票へ/沖縄 町議会が条例案可決
 

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