It's started: Robot Uprising Begins as China Turns to Machines to Fill in Gaps in the Workforce

[Shotgunner51]

That's actually very interesting, thanks for posting that.

You're most welcome bro! I just moved the last few posts from that maritime thread to this thread, let's continue to discuss this interesting topic here.

Don't you think that with China rapidly making gains, this trend may reverse?

I don't see the trend reversing anytime soon, because firstly automation is the only direction to go, and secondly density-wise China is behind East Asian peers, so way to go.

Labor-intensive has already dropped to only 16% of Chinese exports, instead machinery has become pillar industry, this trend will continue. The vocational landscape has also changed, low-skill labour (doing repetitive works) replaced by hi-skill technicians, engineers, designers and services.​

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/exports​

 

[TaiShang]

A robot writes calligraphy during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 15, 2017. [Photo/VCG]

A man plays Weiqi, or Go, with a robot during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 15, 2017. [Photo/VCG]]

A visitor experiences intelligent medical equipment during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 16, 2017. [Photo/Xinhua]

An industrial robot demonstrates its abilities during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 16, 2017. [Photo/Xinhua]

Visitors interact with a robot during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 16, 2017. [Photo/Xinhua]

Visitors take photos of a bionic robot during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 16, 2017. [Photo/Xinhua]

A woman controls a micro drone carrying a camera during the 4th China Robot Summit in Yuyao, East China's Zhejiang province, May 16, 2017. [Photo/Xinhua]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-05/17/content_29383882.htm

 

[AndrewJin]

You're most welcome bro! I just moved the last few posts from that maritime thread to this thread, let's continue to discuss this interesting topic here.

I don't see the trend reversing anytime soon, because firstly automation is the only direction to go, and secondly density-wise China is behind East Asian peers, so way to go.

Labor-intensive has already dropped to only 16% of Chinese exports, instead machinery has become pillar industry, this trend will continue. The vocational landscape has also changed, low-skill labour (doing repetitive works) replaced by hi-skill technicians, engineers, designers and services.​

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Unstoppable trend.

 

[Han Patriot]

4th China Robot Summit kicks off in E China's Zhejiang
Source: Xinhua| 2017-05-16 22:39:22|Editor: Song Lifang

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A robot plays go game, also known as Weiqi in Chinese, with a visitor during the fourth China Robot Summit in Yuyao, east China's Zhejiang Province, May 16, 2017. The two-day China Robot Summit, displaying a variety of artificial intelligence technologies and service robots, kicked off here on Tuesday. (Xinhua/Huang Zongzhi)

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Photos of a holographic intelligent robot.

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A visitor experiences an intelligent nursing robot.

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A staff worker demonstrating mind-controlled medical bed.

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A visitor looks at an automatic trashcan.

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A robot makes ice cream at a robot experience center.

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Visitors experience a virtual reality game

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-05/16/c_136289606.htm

Really amazed by that hologram technology.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Gree, transitioning from a traditional A/C manufacturer to
a key player in Made-in-China 2025
and the global competition in the new technological revolution era

@Shotgunner51 @Jlaw @grey boy 2 @Keel @powastick @Keel

The automation is stunning! It reminds me of the video you posted in #94! GREE is one of my favorite industrial corporation, alongside with Siasun, Estun, Midea, Shenyang Machine Tool, Zhenhua Heavy Industries and such.

 

[Jlaw]

There is no such term as "demographic dividend" during this revolution.
India has no future in this tech revolution, a billion burdens.
Though people like @Bussard Ramjet brags about how immature this revolution is, like all other people during the onset of previous industrial revolutions, deep in their heart, they feel hopeless and powerless. No future, no job, just lots of useless creatures asking for food but with low productivity.

They r showing a range of defence mechanisms from the view of psychology.


Logistics robots do not make mistakes!

The unemployed demographic dividends can become farmers, grow crops and sell to china. Unemployment solved

 

[TaiShang]

The unemployed demographic dividends can become farmers, grow crops and sell to china. Unemployment solved

Indeed. India can serve as a low-cost food basket of China. Of course, lots of quality check and inspections are required to ensure quality standards.

Excess population, low wages translating inti agriculture is indeed an excellent demographic dividend.

Otherwise, Indian call centers have no future in Greater China because we do not use English in our daily lives.

 

[武成王]

The unemployed demographic dividends can become farmers, grow crops and sell to china. Unemployment solved

Impossible. Indian crops are even more expensive than Chinese domestic crops which in turn are much more expensive than imports from US, Canada or Brazil. PRC pays huge subsidies to agriculture every year, even with this policy, foreign crops are still much cheaper.

 

[That Guy]

You're most welcome bro! I just moved the last few posts from that maritime thread to this thread, let's continue to discuss this interesting topic here.

I don't see the trend reversing anytime soon, because firstly automation is the only direction to go, and secondly density-wise China is behind East Asian peers, so way to go.

Labor-intensive has already dropped to only 16% of Chinese exports, instead machinery has become pillar industry, this trend will continue. The vocational landscape has also changed, low-skill labour (doing repetitive works) replaced by hi-skill technicians, engineers, designers and services.​

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Sure, but that to me doesn't answer the long term issue of unemployment. Is unemployment, due to automation, something the Chinese gov is looking into? Is it even something the common Chinese household is talking about, like in the developed world?

oh, "one god" theory



even physics is not totally mathematics, not mention the fatal western economics.

Dude, just stop.

 

[武成王]

Sure, but that to me doesn't answer the long term issue of unemployment. Is unemployment, due to automation, something the Chinese gov is looking into? Is it even something the common Chinese household is talking about, like in the developed world?

It's unstoppable trend. There're lots of unemployment, the workers have to find other opportunity, Chinese learned to manage themselves, can not rely on government to resolve everything. There're lots of bragging Chineses (true or false whatever) in PDF, many of them are stupid just as other countries, no difference.

 

[That Guy]

It's unstoppable trend. There're lots of unemployment, the workers have to find other opportunity, Chinese learned to manage themselves, can not rely on government to resolve everything. There're lots of bragging Chineses (true or false whatever) in PDF, many of them are stupid just as other countries, no difference.

I don't necessarily think that a common citizen will be able to manage, when large scale unemployment becomes an issue. In this case, the government may have to step in, to either slow down automation (unlikely), or change how their entire economy works (would it even be affordable?).

 

[武成王]

I don't necessarily think that a common citizen will be able to manage, when large scale unemployment becomes an issue. In this case, the government may have to step in, to either slow down automation (unlikely), or change how their entire economy works (would it even be affordable?).

No. The government understood this issue very early. robotic and automation is a strategic sector China must compete whatever the cost. it's impossible to slow down the process.
We ever experienced reform of stated own firms in the 90s, much much more painful than current situation, we're high tolerant people. Service is booming in China, which can resolve lots of such unemployment, Chinese are also good at small business.

It's not very easy to hire workers in factory of southern China today. Many of these labors flow back to their home town since government is gradually pushing the capital and facilities to middle and west China.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Sure, but that to me doesn't answer the long term issue of unemployment. Is unemployment, due to automation, something the Chinese gov is looking into? Is it even something the common Chinese household is talking about, like in the developed world?

Don't worry my friend, human have been using tools or machines to raise productivity for centuries if not millennia, say in agriculture, forestry, fishery, mining, civil construction, transportation and manufacturing. Nowadays it takes far less direct manpower to grow foods, or build a river dam, than centuries ago. Where have manpower gone? Indirectly contributing to the production, say designing and building machines, services. Jobs are still there, just more sophisticated.

Unemployment in other "developed" economies? Hard to comment, cause that is a complicated issue which may involve trade imbalance, financial imbalance, currency exchange rate (hence relative pricing, competitiveness). If badly indebted economies (like Greece, Spain) issue their own currency (that isn't used as reserve internationally like dollar or euro), guess they won't be "developed" any more, but then they would become competitive. I don't see problem in economies already with ultra-high robotics density like South Korea (world's 1st highest), Singapore (2nd), Japan (3rd), Germany (4th), these are also happened to be successful economies with high surpluses, high net international assets, China is on the same path.

 

[武成王]

Don't worry my friend, human have been using tools or machines to raise productivity for centuries if not millennia, say in agriculture, forestry, fishery, mining, civil construction, transportation and manufacturing. Nowadays it takes far less direct manpower to grow foods, or build a river dam, than centuries ago. Where have manpower gone? Indirectly contributing to the production, say designing and building machines, services. Jobs are still there, just more sophisticated.

I have no comment on unemployment in other economies, cause that is a complicated issue which may involve trade imbalance, financial imbalance, currency exchange rate (hence relative pricing, competitiveness), but as automation is progressing in China I believe more jobs will be created in machine design, machine repair & maintenance, technician, machine engineering, machine sales & marketing, etc. In the broader perspective, more jobs should be created in services like education, medicare, financial, e-commerce, transport and such.

True for creating new jobs, however they're not prepared for those layoff, less educated young labors, these youth have to seek other opportunity, also the number of new jobs will be small compared with the front line workers.

The key point is, whatever you like it or not, robotics is a must-have at any cost for China to upgrade to high end manufacture. People badly affected by this trend have to take it. The loss will be compensated in long term.

 

[yusheng]

Sure, but that to me doesn't answer the long term issue of unemployment. Is unemployment, due to automation, something the Chinese gov is looking into? Is it even something the common Chinese household is talking about, like in the developed world?


Dude, just stop.

ok， i stop, enjoy it, my god