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It is far too early to claim the war in Afghanistan has failed By this autumn we could be seeing positive indicators of a nation slowly rebuilding itself
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Hew Strachan The Guardian, Thursday 21 April 2011 Article historyI have just returned from Afghanistan and am struggling to understand the evidence on which Julian Glover based his sweeping assertions (Few say it, but they all know: our Afghan war is a disaster, 11 April). Britain is "trapped in a war with no plan other than to kill as many baddies as we can before fleeing", he says. And the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan "collapsed not because of any single defeat but because the occupation became too expensive and incoherent to sustain. We are following the same path."

But only by this autumn will we know whether the Afghan national security forces really are ready to take the lead in the fight against the insurgents (although already the indications are surprisingly positive); whether the insurgents can cope with the recent losses both to their elites and to their arms caches; whether the opium crop has fallen not only in size (for the second successive year) but also in value; and whether Afghan village mullahs will embrace the cause of peace.

If the trends are all negative, then Glover's indictment will have been warranted. But for the moment his views owe more to retrospective than prospective judgments. It is easy to want to wind the clock back to 2001 and not be in Afghanistan, but we start from where we are now. Since 2009, the campaign has been reinvigorated, first by General Stanley McChrystal at the operational level and, second, by General David Petraeus at the civil-military interface.

Before visiting Afghanistan I had great doubts about our strategic and political aims. The International Security Assistance Force was capable of repeated tactical success, but Nato was divided – with some in the US administration seeing the campaign's purpose as counter-terrorism and others embracing the much more ambitious goal of good governance for Afghanistan. In reality they are interlocking elements in a means-ends relationship. Even more seriously, Afghanistan seemed unlikely to be able to take charge of its own destiny. President Karzai was returned to power in a disputed election, and the US seemed to fall out with him on an almost monthly basis.

But the agreement to "transition" authority to Afghanistan, due to be completed by the end of 2014, seems to have produced a genuine consensus, despite inevitable areas of dispute. The Lisbon summit in November 2010 provided for the first time a political framework for Nato operations. Moreover, transition is not just a synonym for an "exit strategy", since Nato has promised an enduring relationship. But the alliance needs to identify whom the Afghans will choose to succeed Karzai in 2014, and how it will manage a relationship still vitiated by corruption and double-dealing.

It is a pity Glover did not address these issues, which desperately need resolution. From where will come the capacity and the professionalism to sustain not only the Afghan national security forces but also the ambitious schemes for district and provincial government? How will they be paid for when Nato is creating an Afghan army whose demands exceed Afghanistan's GDP? And, the most fraught question, what will that army's principal task be when many Afghans see the military challenges as the product of external interference, not internal division?
 
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bailliegillies
21 April 2011 8:08AM
How many more decades are you prepared to wait before you realise that we've already lost and how many more deaths before you accept that enough is enough.

Go away and read the history of Afghanistan, how they three times defeated the might of the British empire, chased the Soviet empire out of their country and now hold the mightiest army, along with their auxiliaries hostage to the fates.

There is no victory in Afghanistan just more unnecessary dying and possibly escalation into Pakistan.

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FreemanMoxy
21 April 2011 8:17AM
So, this war has already dragged on twice as long as both world wars, with nothing like an end in sight, but apparently it is "far" too early to start talking of failure. Hmm...

Let's recall why NATO forces are in Afghanistan in the first place. In October 2001, following the worst, mass casualty terrorist attacks ever broadcast live on television, the United States declared that it would invade Afghanistan, drive out the dominant militia and capture the 9/11 attackers' leaders.

Half-achieving that goal with relative ease by bribing, arming and providing air support to local warlords and drug barons, an international coalition then plopped thousands of heavily armed soldiers into Kabul and announced that... they would be staying indefinitely!

Ostensibly, this was to facilitate the painting of some schools, the education of some little girls and the transformation of a fractious, narcotics-riddled, tribal war zone into a modern liberal democratic state, amongst other simple, straightforward and laudable goals. And so, the Afghans settled down to the long project of creating the world's most corrupt political and economic system under the watchful gaze of its most awesome military.

In the interim, ourselves and the Americans saw fit to launch a disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq for reasons that made no sense whatsoever, and then presided impotently over its meltdown into a horrific sectarian civil war.

When some measure of order was finally and bloodily restored, as death squads attached to our allies threatened to entirely exterminate the rebellious population among their countrymen, allowing us to bribe our former enemies to our side, the United States declared this method Good and vowed to export it to Afghanistan, where...

...A decade later, our once-defeated foes were miraculously back and ten times as ferocious as ever, spitting bullets and chopping heads. For our part, we have intentionally and massively expanded the country's war into the territory of its nuclear armed neighbour.

Somehow, this reformed "Taliban" are able to resupply themselves with men and materiel in some of the most rugged terrain on Earth, a region in which a donkey can't fart without being monitored by billions of dollars worth of spy satellites and drones.

They're able to move freely within a population that reputedly hates and fears them and are now stalemating a superpower and its allies in a country that has already defeated and contributed to the downfall of the world's only other superpower within living memory.

I look at this sorry mess and I try to draw some kind of lesson, be it military, moral or political, but find myself constantly returning to the same question...

What the f*** are we doing in Afghanistan?
 
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