"Israeli Intransigence"

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I think Jews were living in this land along with people of other religions too. Even during Prophet Mohammad(PEACE BE UPON HIM) Times there were jews living in Holy cities of Makkah and Medina and the other holy city of Jerusalem . In Past this land has been administered and been occupied by almost forces from All three Religions ie., Judaism , Christianity and Islam .
So if anyone one of these claiming it as "Only Theres" is on wrong footings ...!
This land is of importance for all the three religions mentioned above .!

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

 

[TechLahore]

How? Israel has been the land of the jews for thousands of years till the muslims took it in a crusade.

Land of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When Moses led the tribes into the Promised Land, was it unoccupied? Or did the tribes fight wars to 'invade' the land? David v Goliath, anyone?

If the legality of the claim is being established by virtue of who was there first, then the lebanese/palestinians/syrians/arabs, who are descendants of the original canaanites, have the high moral ground.

 

[Luftwaffe]

XDrive...Out of many bani Israel as referred to them for thousands of year many of them were Muslims as they practiced the preached that which they did not changed for a price what most of Jews did i won't go in detail on gospels and Torah...They lived on the very same land for a very long time so basically in one strike i have smashed your story which you support by posting wikish**ia..

As All-Green have clearly explained i don't need to add more..

or if you want to know more explain how these Jews wandered 40 years in desert with non of their land to them humiliated because they were told to enter a land which they denied themselves and God cursed them for it. enough of bible stories you've no clear proof to bring up and claim.

 

[dabong1]

Who did the Romans take the land from? THE JEWS. Please read the full history on wikipedia.

The jews can also claim that egypt should be theres also.....after all they lived there for a long time.

The italians can claim all of europe as theres as they had it for a long time under the romans.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

The minority had the support of the world super powers of that time---who did the normans take their lands from---strength and power is that the reaosn for all the blood shed.

So---one day---when the weaker nations getstronger than other strong nations---they should just invade them and kill them like it used to happen.

 

[gubbi]

No one has got it yet. Who will be the first?

remaining 22%!! Doh!! And this thread gets hijacked into the nature of the intractable conflict!

 

[All-Green]

"Today, 78 per cent of what in 1917-48 was Palestine under ‘mandate’ is under Israel’s control, and Israel has no intention of quitting the remaining 22 per cent." link

Am I the only one here who sees a problem with this statement?

Technically speaking the Palestine mentioned in the British Mandate was not further divided into Jewish and non Jewish areas and encompassed the whole of Palestine.
The concept of Jewish and non Jewish territorial split of Palestine came into being as part of the U.N. Partition plan and not the British mandate.
Mixing the two is an error as far as i am concerned.

 

[Solomon2]

I guess All-Green is the winner:

1) After World War I Great Britain accepted the 1922 Mandate for Palestine, and then — with League of Nations approval — used its article 25 to create two distinct entities within the Mandate-designated area.

2) The territory lying between the Jordan River and the eastern desert boundary "of that part of Palestine which was known as Trans-Jordan" (nearly 78 percent) thus became the Emirate of Transjordan. This new entity was put under the rule of Emir Abdullah, the eldest son of the Sharif of Mecca, as a recompense for his support in the war against the Turks, and of Ibn Saud's seizure of Arabia (Faisal, Abdullah's brother, later received the even vaster Mandate area of Iraq).

3) Turning a blind eye to article 15, Great Britain also decided that no Jews could reside or buy land in the newly created Emirate. This policy was ratified — after the emirate became a kingdom — by Jordan's law no. 6, sect. 3, on April 3, 1954, and reactivated in law no. 7, sect. 2, on April 1, 1963. It states that any person may become a citizen of Jordan unless he is a Jew. King Hussein made peace with Israel in 1994, but the Judenrein legislation remains valid today.

4) The remaining area west of the Jordan River (comprising about 22 percent of the original Mandate) was then officially designated "Palestine" by Great Britain. As stated in the 1937 Royal Commission Report, "the primary purpose of the Mandate, as expressed in its preamble and its articles, is to promote the establishment of the Jewish National Home." link

That's where the "22%" really comes from. But even Dawn, perhaps Pakistan's most liberal English-language newspaper, can't bring itself to explicitly state, or even imply, that despite their suffering and hardship and role as objects of Arab and Muslim hostility the Zionists displayed great pity, generosity, and reasonableness when it came to establishing their own state. And that was before Jews fled or were expelled en masse from surrounding Arab countries over the next forty years. Rather, Dawn resorts to inverting the truth.

Why should Pakistanis accept this?

 

[AHMED85]

"Today, 78 per cent of what in 1917-48 was Palestine under ‘mandate’ is under Israel’s control, and Israel has no intention of quitting the remaining 22 per cent." link

Am I the only one here who sees a problem with this statement?

haa very funny to make
i think this message is suitable for them
"our message is clear we are cutting here we will stay here till die we will killing here"

cruel face of Israel