Islamophobia: Tony Abbott urged to speak out against attacks on Muslims

[acid rain]

I'm just laughing at your ignorance, I won't teach you on Islam because you've made up your mind.

I am not losing out on anything by you not teaching me...maybe if I intend to go fight in Syria or Iraq i'l come back to you.

 

[Contrarian]

Yes, because I actually live in Pakistan. If you want a second opinion, try asking Sikhs or Christian Pakistanis.

Its easy to demonize others without knowing the reality. It takes courage to actually find the truth. Visit Pakistan and see your misconceptions shatter.

You sir, are a true Pakistani.

All these are 2014 articles mind you. This year itself. There are colonies in India entirely composed of Pakistani Hindu and Sikh refugees.

Here. Some more.
Pak Hindus seek refuge in Delhi - The Times of India
Two weeks ago, 16-year-old Bharti Rai from Hyderabad in Sindh, Pakistan, came to India on a one-way train ticket. She doesn't want to go back ever alleging oppression, sexual harassment and persecution as a religious minority across the border. Coming through Rajasthan, she is currently in Bijwasan village in outer Delhi. She is among 37 other Pakistani Hindu refugees who arrived in the village this month on a tourist visa, hoping to get asylum in India.

 

[acid rain]

Wrong. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism have the same end days prophecy that the whole world will embrace (convert of their own will to) Monotheism and live under the rule of the Messiah (Jesus to Muslims and Christians). Why only reserve the hatred and abuse for Muslims?

Nazism was based on Race, not religion. Actually in that sense it has some parallels to Hindu RSS,BJP extremism.

But their way of preparation is quite different to yours. They wait for judgement day by praying and cleansing their sins. Yours in based on creating violent terrorist armies in korasan and middle east.

There us no parellel to isis or boko etc other than nazism.

 

[halupridol]

 

[Murat Sulemaniyyeh]

You sir, are a true Pakistani. One who says everything is a lie and a conspiracy.

I don't think I've ever talked to you before. Surprising how you can slap me with a label just on the basis of my religion and nationality. Its a convenient excuse to avoid reality.

But their way of preparation is quite different to yours. They wait for judgement day by praying and cleansing their sins. Yours in based on creating violent terrorist armies in korasan and middle east.

You don't know the ABC of Islam, so don't comment on my religion. You are just another fascist hater. There is a reason that 1/4 of the world is Muslim. We love our religion.

 

[Contrarian]

I don't think I've ever talked to you before. Surprising how you can slap me with a label just on the basis of my religion and nationality. Its a convenient excuse to avoid reality.

You know what. You are right.
Let me modify my statement in my last post as well and limit it- You sir, are a true Pakistani.

 

[acid rain]

I don't think I've ever talked to you before. Surprising how you can slap me with a label just on the basis of my religion and nationality. Its a convenient excuse to avoid reality.



You don't know the ABC of Islam, so don't comment on my religion. You are just another fascist hater. There is a reason that 1/4 of the world is Muslim. We love our religion.

You are right. I hate fascism. Now run back to your madrassah if you do not have a counter argument. There is a reason why one fourth of the world is Christian, why 1/5th is Buddhist, why 1/6th is Hindus..etc etc. What kind of stupid argument is this?

You pursue people on the streets and in prisons to convert them. It's quite obvious that when you chase a thousand there is a probability that you will be successful with converting one.

Now tell me again about your end of days prophesy and how armies from sham and armies from korasan will wipe out all the kafirs and munafiqs leaving just the pure standing for God.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Indian muslims are not Arabs or Persians, you all have the same blood, you look the same, speak the same language, eat +/- the same type of spicy and sweet foods, it's astonishing how you all have been divided by religion, it's nothing to be proud of, you should all be ashamed.

Yes. I was thinking in the same way before. I am ready to think in the same way as you have mentioned. But then I saw people are protesting for Palestine as they are muslims but the same people remained silent for other communities in other countries. I saw people are supporting kashmiri muslims and they never supported the case of kashmiri pundits. I saw people are vandalizing properties in India to support Rohigyan muslims. What am i suppose to think at this behavior ? I really dont know. I am not ashamed anymore.

Look I am not justifying anything. But what I am saying is that world is going to be polarized because of these attitudes. And the process has started in France, Netherlands, Australia etc. Sooner or later Hindus will fall into the group. That is why Narendra Modi, who was hated for 2002 riots ( I was one of the haters too ) was elected with full majority. You need to understand this.

 

[anonymus]

If ISIS was Islamic, 100% sure that they'd have at least 500 million fighters instead of +/- 50k, they are as Islamic as DPRK is Democratic.

This logic is invalid.

In any sample population size, very few people take up arms; but their presence is an indicator of their deep rooted support.


For example: Indian Army has strength of 1.2 million which in a country with 1.3 billion people come close to 0.9%. But Majority of Indians support Indian Army.

 

[Murat Sulemaniyyeh]

Declaring Indian Muslims, Pakistanis, and Kashmiris as foreigners is just an excuse to massacre them, torture, and abuse them. All of you know what happened in Gujurat, UP, Bihar, Assam when we allow these fanatics a free hand.

The fact that a known terrorist, mass-murderer, and mass-rapist is elected PM in India is nothing to be proud of.

This logic is invalid.

In any sample population size, very few people take up arms; but their presence is an indicator of their deep rooted support.


For example: Indian Army has strength of 1.2 million which in a country with 1.3 billion people come close to 0.9%. But Majority of Indians support Indian Army.

False, flawed logic used to spread hatred for Muslims. Even Syrians and Iraqis aren't safe from your indictments.

 

[zangazanga]

This logic is invalid.

In any sample population size, very few people take up arms; but their presence is an indicator of their deep rooted support.


For example: Indian Army has strength of 1.2 million which in a country with 1.3 billion people come close to 0.9%. But Majority of Indians support Indian Army.

The army is an identity, it's existed since the foundation of India, India is a nation that many have died for for decades if not centuries, your example is baseless.

Yes. I was thinking in the same way before. I am ready to think in the same way as you have mentioned. But then I saw people are protesting for Palestine as they are muslims but the same people remained silent for other communities in other countries. I saw people are supporting kashmiri muslims and they never supported the case of kashmiri pundits. I saw people are vandalizing properties in India to support Rohigyan muslims. What am i suppose to think at this behavior ? I really dont know. I am not ashamed anymore.

Look I am not justifying anything. But what I am saying is that world is going to be polarized because of these attitudes. And the process has started in France, Netherlands, Australia etc. Sooner or later Hindus will fall into the group. That is why Narendra Modi, who was hated for 2002 riots ( I was one of the haters too ) was elected with full majority. You need to understand this.

So are you telling me Indians are not united? indians are just sikhs, hindus, muslims etc. before being indian? if that is the case, why doesn't india break apart?

 

[Murat Sulemaniyyeh]

There's this issue of assimilation that Muslims face all over the world. Probably has to do with the superiority complex that they have.

I wonder what 200 million Indian Muslims will think about your statement.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Declaring Indian Muslims, Pakistanis, and Kashmiris as foreigners is just an excuse to massacre them, torture, and abuse them. All of you know what happened in Gujurat, UP, Bihar, Assam when we allow these fanatics a free hand.

The fact that a known terrorist, mass-murderer, and mass-rapist is elected PM in India is nothing to be proud of.



False, flawed logic used to spread hatred for Muslims. Even Syrians and Iraqis aren't safe from your indictments.

Just syaing " They are not true muslims , they do not represent Islam. Its sad", and writing some blogs in news papers and some letters to Baghdadi confirms that majority of these people are silent supporters. You can take an example of what they did in Nigeria and what they are doing in Pakistan, everyday torture of minorities. Naming of those Invaders as their heroes also strengthen my point of view. Supporting terrorism in the name of faith is nothing to be proud of.

And selective secularism is dangerous too.

 

[zangazanga]

Just syaing " They are not true muslims , they do not represent Islam. Its sad", and writing some blogs in news papers and some letters to Baghdadi confirms that majority of these people are silent supporters. You can take an example of what they did in Nigeria and what they are doing in Pakistan, everyday torture of minorities. Naming of those Invaders as their heroes also strengthen my point of view. Supporting terrorism in the name of faith is nothing to be proud of.

And selective secularism is dangerous too.

Accusing people of being silent supporters is weak, you are either a supporter (sending funds, joining them, writing books to support them) or you are not, simple, these groups should be told they are wrong, they don't represent muslims or humanity that way it delegitimizes them, anything other than that just legitimizes them.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

The army is an identity, it's existed since the foundation of India, India is a nation that many have died for for decades if not centuries, your example is baseless.



So are you telling me Indians are not united? indians are just sikhs, hindus, muslims etc. before being indian? if that is the case, why doesn't india break apart?

Now you are right. Indians are divided into 2 communities basically. Muslims and non-muslims. India was divided in 1947. And regarding another division of India , you know what is happening in Kashmir. They dont want freedom because they are Kashmiris, they want freedom because they are muslims and according to them, they should not be ruled by non-muslims. The same kind of division had happened in Sudan ( I think you know).