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Islamic Eschatology - Strategic importance!

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  1. Azad-Kashmiri

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    Why does it bother you when Zionists are mentioned you get all worked up and yet Indians are criticized and no one bats an eye lid. Are you one of them? Tell me what the Talmud says about the Goyam? Do you want to take me on Jewish matters on End of times or is it too painful for you to let the people know what is to come?

    You ''foreigners'' think we live in Pakistan and trust our lives, livelihood because of the whores that run us. Think again!
     
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    I've heard of this man before. He's been to University of Karachi and the Graduate institute of International relations (where he came top of his class) in Geneva. I found his lecture on "Islam and the International Monetary System" to be quite fascinating.
     
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    No it doesn't talk about any Hindu dreams that will fortunately(for the world) will never come true.
     
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    He doesn't talk about much if India. But he does say that Israel's closest ally next to the US is India. And that Muslims should be wary of India.
     
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    In this video he briefly mentions the oppression that Kashmiris are suffering and he mentions verse 82 of Surah Al-Maidah. Where he links the two people who have the most hatred for Muslims with the ever close relationship between Israel and Bharat. And at the same time it would be Christians who would have the greatest affection for us.
     
  7. Farah Sohail

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    Why? I am unable to hear the links mentioned here as its a youtube link...but going by the discussion here, it seems it talks about end of time.... Do u believe on hadith? There are actually plenty of Ahadith on end of times....... If he is talking about references from hadith, we should pay attention
     
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    Musa would have said the same about Khizr if it was our time.
     
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    Is this the same Sheikh Imran who said that time has run out for Pakistan and our generals have sold us out to the west. And soon India and Nato will jointly invade and conquer our land. I guess this was said back in 2010 and its end of 2015 and we are still here and it seems US and Nato are leaving Afghanistan and India can't do shit to us, so such much for the wisdom of this advanced scholar.

    Oh and if my memory serves me right in that video he advised the muslims of Pakistan to leave the cities and buy land in villages where they can grow their own food, as Indians and US will cut the food supplies to our cities, thankfully no one actually listened to him and our cities are still well populated so that NS can create metros for them.
     
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    He is human. Not everything he says is Gospel. However there is no need to be so dismissive. Time is RUNNING out for Pakistan, it is just not as quick as the Sheikh had anticipated. And many big officers have sold Pakistan out!! The plan to denuclearize Pakistan with the false flag of 9/11 and then later the Abbottabad affair have not materialized however the enemies are still planning and plotting and Pakistan is still trying to purchase weapons from them and be their ally??

    It will not be the USA or Bharat that will cut the food supplies. In major crises, such as economic collapse or war, it is difficult to get the basic amenities to large cities as transportation is often disrupted and the cities do not sustain themselves. The cities in the USA and Bharat will also be affected!! Even non Muslim secular scholars are advising their audience to become self sufficient. Where can this be done? In the countryside/mountainside.

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    In this interview to Serbian television the Sheikh has advised Muslims to join the Russian military even if they be in Saudi Arabia to fight against the oppressor NATO.

    I think this can be applied to Muslims in Pakistan and other countries. I wish to know what others think about this? Would you take this advice? Would you recommend kith and kin to do the same?


    at 34 mins to 36 mins.
     
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    lolz defence pk allows this how come when i try to upload sheikh imran videos in past and talk about prophecies i get banned. The rule is simple migrate out of Europe and usa and buy Armour, weopens, horses, farm, off grid communication, water filters, food with long shelf life , night visions, hand dynamo generator, solar, petrol generator, warm clothes, military boots etc survival prepper stuff. reminds me of cain and abel. cain and his descends were to become metal worker and build big cities like nimrod, pharaoh and his brother abel was Shepherd and simple. basically Cain would make things with his hands but abel trust in god to provide.

    How the West Came to
    Dominate the Whole Wide World?


    By Brother: N. Awan

    In the 15th century, Christian Europeans began making oceanic voyages of discovery. Very quickly, these voyages led to the outright economic, political and religious domination of the globe. This domination lies at the heart of the problems facing Muslims today.


    Why were Europeans the only ones to discover and conquer the world, notwithstanding the Church's lie to them, that the earth was flat and if anyone sailed too far, they would fall into Hell! They were not only inward-looking, illiterate and misguided but oppressed by their clerics who victimised them through inquisitions, witch-hunts and charges of heresies. How was it possible for a society with such characteristics to even dream about discovering, and conquering the world?


    The fact is, the very institution that misguided its followers, also sent them on a Naval Crusade in the guise of explorers, traders and colonialists.

    Following the destruction of Baghdad in 1258 AD by Christian-backed Mongols, the remaining intellectual Islamic states were in Africa. Africa was home to several Islamic universities, namely Fez, Timbuktu, Jenne and Al-Azhar, with many faculties including Law, Medicine, Grammar, Building, Crafts, Manufacturing and Geography which attracted scholars from all over the Muslim world. Even though, two-thirds of the world's supply of gold came from West Africa during the Middle Ages, more profit was made from the sale of books. Arabic was not only the language of religion and learning, but it was also the language of trade and commerce.

    This is not surprising because Islam is a universal religion. Allah (swt) is the Lord of the East, and the West [73:9]. Furthermore, the Last Prophet (saw) was sent to the whole mankind, the Last Message had been delivered and Islam had been completed [5:4]. Muslims were inclined to practice trade, Dawah, Jihad, migration, etc.

    In addition, Muslims were sailors, geographers, astronomers and scientists. For example, in 793 AD, Al-Biruni, an Afghan scientist in the Punjab had calculated the earth's circumference and thus, Muslims had ascertained that the earth was round 700 years before the Europeans.

    Unlike Christians, Muslims faced few obstacles in spreading Islam throughout the world. When the Church discovered that Muslims from West Africa were actually doing so, they launched the Naval Crusade and the brutal slavery of West Africans.

    Many people are under the impression that the primary reason for these events was economics. History books have been written to openly talk about the evils of slavery, racism, economic exploitation, etc.. in order to hide the truth.

    Prior to secularism, religion played a dominant role in all civilisations including the Ancient Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Europeans and Indians. In fact, it still does so right up to the present day. The concept of secularism is about 200 hundred years old. Thus, all historical events should be interpreted using the religious reference frame, and not the secular, economic, or even geo-political reference frame.

    By critically analysing the Kuffar's so called scholarly writings using the Islamic reference frame, we find that they shrewdly attempt to remove, hide or ridicule the role of Muslims in world history. However, they often reveal the very opposite of what was intended. These history books supply the very evidence they thought to suppress or record significant facts of which they were ignorant. Even Shaytan cannot write a book completely devoid of truth

    In 1457, the Council of Cardinals met in Holland as a righteous and progressive idea, the enslavement of Africans for the purpose of their conversion to Christianity and exploitation in the labour market as chattel property. This devilish scheme quickly gained the sanctimonious blessing from the Pharaoh (Pope) and became a standard policy of the Catholic Church, and later of the Protestant churches.

    A bull of Pharaoh Nicholas V instructed his followers to `attack, subject, and reduce to perpetual slavery the Saracens, Pagans and other enemies of Christ, southward from Cape Bojador and including all the coast of Guinea'.

    Having launched inquisitions in France and Italy, the Church extended it to Spain in 1481 to kill or forcibly convert Muslims. On 2nd January 1492, the last Muslim foothold in Spain, Granada was invaded by Christian armies, thus ending about 700 years of Europe's Islamic civilisation.

    When Granada fell, the Spanish monarchy appointed Columbus a Genoese seafarer `to go by way of the West to India'. Columbus set sail in the name of the Trinity from the harbour of Palos on 3rd August 1492. He sailed down the West coast of Africa to some outlying islands, then straight across the Atlantic Ocean.

    On the very first page of his diary, Columbus describes the humiliating end of the Muslims in Granada. He then goes on to state the objective of his journey to the lands of India to meet the Great Khan, who like his predecessors, had many times appealed to Rome to instruct him in Christianity, to combat the religion of 'Mahomet' and all idolatries and heresies.

    He also wrote that he hopes in God to find gold mines and spices in great quantities that within three years, Spain would undertake and organise themselves to go to conquer the Holy Sepulchre, for all the wealth gained in the enterprise should be spent on the conquest of Jerusalem.

    By 1500, a number of royal marriages took place linking the Spanish monarchy with that of Hapsburg possessions in Austria, Germany and Holland. Spain became a global empire, stretching from Vienna to Peru! Charles V, who held more than 60 royal titles declared: `in my realm the sun never sets'. The Church which often arranged these royal marriages began to think a universal Christian empire had at last been achieved.

    The destruction of Al-Andalus was planned, to ensure that Muslims from Africa could not assist their co-religionists in Europe. With two year's preparation and a papal bull, a Crusade was launched in 1415 against Ceduta, a Muslim stronghold and a trading centre on the African side opposite to Gibraltar. A well armed Portuguese Armada, supported by a contingent of English archers overwhelmed Ceduta within a day.

    The Portuguese set out with the intention of uniting the Christian forces of Europe with those of Africa, namely Ethiopia in an all out war against the Muslims and to make their state into a vast African-Indian empire, stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Indian Ocean and bigger than the continent of Europe. To achieve this the Church had given the Portuguese organisational skills and uninhibited aggressiveness to go forth to conquer and dominate.

    The early Portuguese were not traders or private adventurers, but aggressors with a royal commission to conquer territory and promote the spread of Christianity.

    In July 1497, Vasco Da Gama set sail from Lisbon. unlike previous Portuguese expeditions, Da Gama continued sailing further down the West coast of Africa and north along the East African coast. With the help of an Arab pilot borrowed from Malindi inmodern Kenya, Da Gama entered the IndOcean and arrived at Calicut in 1498.

    A second expedition, consisting of thirteen ships and 1200 soldiers, under the command of Cabral, was despatched in 1500. The sum of his instructions was to begin with preaching, and, if that failed, to proceed to the sharp determination of the sword. On reaching Calicut, Cabral established factories in face of active hostility.

    In 502 Da Gama sailed again to the East, with a fleet of twenty vessels and thus began the Crusade, Christianisation, conquest, and `commerce' of Africa and India.

    Once Spain and Portugal had been used to establish strategic bases and ports in the Americas, Africa, India and South-East Asia to contain the spread of Islam, skilled and educated Europeans were then needed to hold and expand the frontiers of newly acquired territories and `administer' the resources in these lands, on a scale never seen in history. Their aim was to ensure the social, economic, political, technological, military and spiritual domination of the world by the West to this very day.

    To achieve this, the Church created, financed and organised a New Order, in which religious reformation, scientific and economic revolution simultaneously took place, namely Protestantism, modern science and capitalism respectively. The result of this New Order was the displacement of Catholic Spain and Portugal by Protestant France, Holland, Germany, Britain, etc.

    However, the foreign policy of the `enlightened and progressive' Protestants was exactly the same as the Catholics, namely the slavery, genocide, theft, Christianisation of non-white, non-Western, non-Christian people, but at increased levels of magnitude and efficiency.

    Now, educated Europeans could design and build machines, fight wars using mechanised armaments, obey complex orders given by factory managers and military leaders; seize and `cultivate' resources including people (slavery) and commodities (colonialism), and distribute them around the world as inputs to the factories of the Industrial Revolution or as finished products to the colonies. The globalisation of trade in `stolen goods' was sanitised by the term, Capitalism. The trade was financed by the largest owners of capital, namely the Church and Jews, underpinned by usury, sanitised by the term, 'interest'. As Catholics were taught that indulging in usury was akin to sodomy, the Protestant order was taught no such thing, thereby enabling its global implementation and thus causing so much misery for the masses today. Little wonder that the capitalistic theories of Adam Smith -a Jew- are still popular under neo-colonialism.

    When King Henry VIII broke away from the Church, he started building Britain's first Navy. The Protestant British Empire was built on Naval power and ruled one quarter of the world. India was not the jewel in the Crown but the engine of the Empire providing men and materials for the Mother Country. One of the very last countries colonised by Britain was Palestine in 1917, when the British Army General entered Jerusalem declaring: `Today the Crusades have ended'. Soon after, the British Empire started to 'unravel' when nationalists from India demanded independence. Palestine was colonised to protect the route to India. In 1947 Palestine was handed over to the Zionists. The never forgotten objective of the Church, the recapture of Palestine, had finally been achieved.

    Having been previously expelled from European countries, the Jews returned under the New Secular Order, to dominate the socio-economic, political and foreign affairs of the Gentiles (non-Jew) by indirectly ruling the Church. In addition, two large Gothic Cathedrals were built, the House of Lords (for clergy, royalty, feudals) and House of Commons and a replica of St. Peter's Basilica -the White House, from where `Democracy' could be practised to freely and democratically elected secular Western governments to continue to fight Islam and Muslims and support the Zionist cause in Palestine in the 20th Century.

    For the East, the Church created another Order using Jews like Karl Marx but based on extreme secularism (Communism) to conquer those countries with strong religious values like China and Africa. However, this Order, comparable in result to British Imperialism, ended in failure in Afghanistan

    It is the same old Pharaohnic System that was behind the pagan Greek and Roman Empires, following the collapse of Ancient Egypt. The Greek and Roman religion was based on classical myths and legends.

    Whatever mutations they go through: Pharaohnic, Greeco-Roman, Catholicism, Renaissance, Protestantism, Colonialism, Secularism, Democracy, Nationalism, Zionism, Communism, Cold War, New World Order, etc. it is still the same old battle between belief and disbelief. Each New Order strengthens them to fight Islam and prepares Palestine for their one-eyed leader.

    The battle continues...
     
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    Interesting. Are you al-Qaeda, then?

    I don't know this "ahkiral zamaan". Is this a different term for something Jewish?

    It is difficult for me to understand you here. You mean you KNOW as in "truth" necessary to justify and promote your religious belief, rather than logical analyses based upon observable facts?
     
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    why do you have to be such a smartass the whole time?
     
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    I'm told that Pakistan suffers from a severe shortage of mental health professionals.

    IOh, you could argue that a hundred and fifty or two hundred years ago. But it's crazy to profess that it's the Europeans who are "at the heart of the problems facing Muslims today" when the today's oppressive gunmen and their leaders all profess to be Muslim. Muslims by their own choice do terrible things to Muslims and non-Muslims.