ISI's role in Raymond Davis case

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

Don,t blame Gen. Pasha read Javaid Ch column Daily Express ( 2-7-2017) today the whole story is there.

 

[Mrc]

I want to know the truth about general pasha and kiyani...

They are same.generals presumed to be behind imran khan dharna apparently to prevent Chinese to invest in cpec and this keep Pakistan out of Chinese camp...

And it's presumed they are still trying to derail Chinese investments in Pakistan through there supporter in army (mostly ex now) .... Turkey 2.0????

 

[BATMAN]

I am feeling ashamed of our agencies for handing over a bastard like raymond ravis to the americans.

Did Americans told you this?

Dear OP, although u are right with wht u just said. But try to put your foot into shoes of then Pak. Govt. What would u have done.

If by govt. you mean Asif Ali Zardari, Yousaf Reza Gillani, than yes they are under full control of Indo/US alliance.
There families live in UK/US, their investments are there, their personal interests are in conflict with state of Pakistan!

I want to know the truth about general pasha and kiyani...

Truth would not help you, you would believe what you want to believe.

 

[turbofan7a]

Looks like he was shooting in self defence!

 

[Max]

we need open and fair trail of Musharraf, Kayani, Pasha, Zardari, Gillani, Nawaz for all humiliation we faced throughout war on terror, start with drones, OBL op, CIA operatives allowed by Haqqani and so one .. There shouldn't be any holy cow.

but can we expect this from our sold out deep state?

 

[Sage]

Don,t blame Gen. Pasha read Javaid Ch column Daily Express ( 2-7-2017) today the whole story is there.

Where ?

 

[niaz]

I fail to understand why ISI or Gen. Pasha is being blamed for the release of Raymond Davis. It was done under the provisions of the Pakistan Qisas & Diyat Law.

Qisas & Diyat laws were introduced in 1990 upon the insistence of the Shariat Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court. The laws have since been used or misused to save to the rich & powerful many times. The most recent case being that of Shah Rukh Jatoi following his brutal murder of Shahzeb but later went scot free after acceptance of the blood money by the legal heirs of the diseased.

Are we now saying that this law, which is in line with the Sharia, is “Wrong” or should the law be applied only to Pakistanis but not on the foreigners? If a cold blooded killer like Shah Rukh Jatoi can be pardoned why not Raymond Davis? Blame the Law not the ISI.

In my opinion, primary purpose of this Law; when it was introduced at the advent of Islam; was to end tribal blood feuds that continued for generations. I agree that under provisions of this Law, Pakistanis with wealth have a licence to kill the poor & the down trodden

There is an old saying that “Justice” is blind; justice under this law is not only blind but also grossly unfair. However, as long this law remains in force, killers like the Raymond Davises and Shah Rukh Jatois will continue to go unpunished.

 

[TMA]

That's the point I'm trying to make.
Why are we being America's lap-dog?

We're not really as weak a military power as we deem ourselves to be. And we have a great ally in the shape of China on our side. We don't have to eat up every piece of garbage america feeds us all the time.

Traitors!!!!

He payed the ISLAMIC DIYA to the families of the dead which is called Blood Money so by Islamic law he is free, anyone who still wishes to punish him now is going to break Islamic laws and by definition would have blasphemed.

The issue is were they pressurised or not.

 

[Zyzz]

Traitors!!!!


The issue is were they pressurised or not.

Have you lived among villagers etc?
These people are not well off, they work just to LIVE ANOTHER DAY, you really think someone who had the offer of over a million dollars that too in USD would pass it up even tho it meant restarting their families life properly, I have lived among villagers and i know for sure that they would have accepted the Islamic blood money, this is irrefutable.
The guys' wife might have not agreed to the blood money deal but the parents of the guy sure did

Deal has been set, those dead guys families have a better life now so stop speculating.

 

[Farhan Malik]

Have you lived among villagers etc?
These people are not well off, they work just to LIVE ANOTHER DAY, you really think someone who had the offer of over a million dollars that too in USD would pass it up even tho it meant restarting their families life properly, I have lived among villagers and i know for sure that they would have accepted the Islamic blood money, this is irrefutable.
The guys' wife might have not agreed to the blood money deal but the parents of the guy sure did

Deal has been set, those dead guys families have a better life now so stop speculating.

money can never justify the killing of a single innocent person

Like I mentioned earlier, the families never wanted diyat, they wanted justice. but they were forced with threats that more of their family members will get slaughtered if they do not accept the bribe

I am not allowed to post links for outside websites here. but if you search google with these words 'raymond davis case: victim's brother wants U.S detained agent to be hanged', you'll see what I mean

 

[nair]

There were 2 guys killed.... Who were they? Did they really attacked RD ? If yes then for What?

 

[SQ8]

I fail to understand why ISI or Gen. Pasha is being blamed for the release of Raymond Davis. It was done under the provisions of the Pakistan Qisas & Diyat Law.

Qisas & Diyat laws were introduced in 1990 upon the insistence of the Shariat Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court. The laws have since been used or misused to save to the rich & powerful many times. The most recent case being that of Shah Rukh Jatoi following his brutal murder of Shahzeb but later went scot free after acceptance of the blood money by the legal heirs of the diseased.

Are we now saying that this law, which is in line with the Sharia, is “Wrong” or should the law be applied only to Pakistanis but not on the foreigners? If a cold blooded killer like Shah Rukh Jatoi can be pardoned why not Raymond Davis? Blame the Law not the ISI.

In my opinion, primary purpose of this Law; when it was introduced at the advent of Islam; was to end tribal blood feuds that continued for generations. I agree that under provisions of this Law, Pakistanis with wealth have a licence to kill the poor & the down trodden

There is an old saying that “Justice” is blind; justice under this law is not only blind but also grossly unfair. However, as long this law remains in force, killers like the Raymond Davises and Shah Rukh Jatois will continue to go unpunished.

All of that matters if done wiillingly; that is suspect in this case.

Either way, it was a case of a trigger happy redneck type fellow causing an incident during an already tenuous fractured relationship. In this case, the greater "good" of diplomacy took over and I would not fault Pasha or any intelligence or diplomatic director if a step was taken in the best (perceived)interests of Pakistan.

Lest we forget the deals with Noriega that were made and in our case the deals with Dawood and so on.
Its international relations and in this case human lives mean little in the longer run.
No Pakistani establishment officer is dying to get Afia Siddiqui out because they know she was at the end a Jihadi nutcase who today would have joined ISIS, but because our generally ignorant public is crazy about her as some "qaum ki beti" thanks to the lizards(mullahs) of our politics and society; it is made as a senstive issue.

 

[Hallian_Khan]

No one defending army we defending the Sharia, if victim's families settled on it than there is law to free the murderer if not punished according Law. That's what happening all around us why specially American?

n according to the book agencies forced them to forgive them. was that according to sharia law too n how come courts set him free for carrying gun n breaking law... was that according to law too...? investigate it n bring culprits forward thats all we want

 

[Big Tank]

The gullible families had trust in the judicial system of this country. They were living in fool's paradise thinking they'll get justice in this country. They were threatened by force that if they refuse to accept the diyat the rest of their children will also be murdered. they had no choice. Gotta feel sorry for them

18 Members of the family were nabbed by the Pasha's men in the ISI who were tortured and forced to accept the death penalty..World's no.1 Spy Agency's chief was threatened at CIA HQ. We forget the actual men in the Agency who sacrifice and instead we remember these American puppets who get their pants ahead of them.

 

[Shane]

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