ISI Chief should resign,says ANP Bushra Gohar

[unicorn]

“If Husain Haqqani [Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US] could resign based on mere allegations, why shouldn’t General Pasha?” Awami National Party (ANP) MNA Bushra Gohar questioned.

ISLAMABAD:
Mum’s the word as far as the government and the military’s media wing are concerned regarding Mansoor Ijaz’s latest allegations.

The mood in the National Assembly session on Thursday, however, was anything but when a female parliamentarian demanded that Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha should resign and face an inquiry based on the allegations that he had met some Arab leaders early this year to discuss a military coup in Pakistan.

Pakistani-American businessman Mansoor Ijaz, the whistleblower behind the Memogate affair, claimed that Pasha had visited Arab countries for discussions on a possible coup, according to media reports.

“If Husain Haqqani [Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US] could resign based on mere allegations, why shouldn’t Pasha?” Awami National Party (ANP) MNA Bushra Gohar questioned.
Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan initially defended Pasha, terming Ijaz’s claims “baseless”. However, when Gohar pointed out that if the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) was so quick to believe Ijaz when the memo issue was brought to light, how was it that the same man had suddenly become “unreliable” when it came to the ISI chief, Chaudhry Nisar ‘unwillingly’ agreed. “Isn’t that a double standards. Isn’t it a contradiction within?” she questioned.

A blog posting on The Independent’s website quoted Ijaz as having said, “Their [US intelligence] information was that Pasha had travelled to a few Arab countries to talk about what the necessary line of action would be in the event that they had to remove Zardari from power, and so forth.”
The government should authenticate the allegations and take “necessary steps”, Chaudhry Nisar said, changing his stance.

After the Abbottabad raid unfolded, Chaudhry Nisar said it was he who “dared” Pasha to resign but nobody supported him back then. “Principally, I agree with her [Bushra’s] stance … but it is up to the government to seek a resignation from anyone,” he added.

It was the first time that a parliamentarian representing a major political party called for the ISI chief to resign in order to prove that the allegations against him were untrue.

Military coup charges: ISI chief should resign, face inquiry, says Gohar – The Express Tribune

 

[53fd]

“If Husain Haqqani [Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US] could resign based on mere allegations, why shouldn’t General Pasha?” Awami National Party (ANP) MNA Bushra Gohar questioned.

ISLAMABAD:
Mum’s the word as far as the government and the military’s media wing are concerned regarding Mansoor Ijaz’s latest allegations.

The mood in the National Assembly session on Thursday, however, was anything but when a female parliamentarian demanded that Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha should resign and face an inquiry based on the allegations that he had met some Arab leaders early this year to discuss a military coup in Pakistan.

Pakistani-American businessman Mansoor Ijaz, the whistleblower behind the Memogate affair, claimed that Pasha had visited Arab countries for discussions on a possible coup, according to media reports.

“If Husain Haqqani [Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US] could resign based on mere allegations, why shouldn’t Pasha?” Awami National Party (ANP) MNA Bushra Gohar questioned.
Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan initially defended Pasha, terming Ijaz’s claims “baseless”. However, when Gohar pointed out that if the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) was so quick to believe Ijaz when the memo issue was brought to light, how was it that the same man had suddenly become “unreliable” when it came to the ISI chief, Chaudhry Nisar ‘unwillingly’ agreed. “Isn’t that a double standards. Isn’t it a contradiction within?” she questioned.

A blog posting on The Independent’s website quoted Ijaz as having said, “Their [US intelligence] information was that Pasha had travelled to a few Arab countries to talk about what the necessary line of action would be in the event that they had to remove Zardari from power, and so forth.”
The government should authenticate the allegations and take “necessary steps”, Chaudhry Nisar said, changing his stance.

After the Abbottabad raid unfolded, Chaudhry Nisar said it was he who “dared” Pasha to resign but nobody supported him back then. “Principally, I agree with her [Bushra’s] stance … but it is up to the government to seek a resignation from anyone,” he added.

It was the first time that a parliamentarian representing a major political party called for the ISI chief to resign in order to prove that the allegations against him were untrue.

Military coup charges: ISI chief should resign, face inquiry, says Gohar – The Express Tribune

Hussain Haqqani resigned voluntarily & willingly to facilitate the investigations, no one asked him to. And it wasn't mere allegations in Haqqani's case, there was a memo brought out to the public, which even Mike Mullen acknowledged. The mere allegations are on Zardari, he hasn't resigned as far as I know.

 

[unicorn]

You don't understand.

What I am seeing here is the first proof of Washington human assets in one of our opposition party.No doubt that ANP is the very likely candidate for this.

 

[All-Green]

DG ISI should show his willingness to face a judicial inquiry regarding this allegation.
Let us see whether this is blame game or government really does initiate an inquiry.
After all this is the common interest of all parties including the one in government.

DG ISI should face court martial if this is proven to be the case, in my opinion.
If this is not proven, then he shall be vindicated and that is also very good since it shall end a lot of rumors.

However resignation over something not proven is not required.
Resignation over OBL fiasco was something i would have wanted from DG ISI...but alas it was not going to happen.

 

[Imran Khan]

why the hell he write it or he deliver it or he was involve in this ****? these bastards politicians are Traitors and throw mess on forces .

 

[niazifighter]

DG ISI should show his willingness to face a judicial inquiry regarding this allegation.
Let us see whether this is blame game or government really does initiate an inquiry.
After all this is the common interest of all parties including the one in government.

DG ISI should face court martial if this is proven to be the case, in my opinion.
If this is not proven, then he shall be vindicated and that is also very good since it shall end a lot of rumors.

However resignation over something not proven is not required.
Resignation over OBL fiasco was something i would have wanted from DG ISI...but alas it was not going to happen.

has any pakistani lt general ever faced court martial???????????
our generals always stand vindicated no matter how much grave the allegation maybe DG isi admitted that he met mansoor ijaz on his request and acquired much proof that may put haqqani under suspicion now mansoor ijaz has proof of haqqani's involvement in memo conspiracy can he put forth the proofs of pasha visit to riyadh and its details imagine he does then government will sack DG isi?????? i think it will provide a casus belli for the military to intervene in political affairs of pakistan for the fifth time this time bangladesh and egypt style

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why the hell he write it or he deliver it or he was involve in this ****? these bastards politicians are Traitors and throw mess on forces .

from my point of view forces always dropped the onus on politicians remember 1971 forces were responsible but we keep on lampooning politicians for the humiliation

 

[Doctor09]

has any pakistani lt general ever faced court martial???????????
our generals always stand vindicated no matter how much grave the allegation maybe DG isi admitted that he met mansoor ijaz on his request and acquired much proof that may put haqqani under suspicion now mansoor ijaz has proof of haqqani's involvement in memo conspiracy can he put forth the proofs of pasha visit to riyadh and its details imagine he does then government will sack DG isi?????? i think it will provide a casus belli for the military to intervene in political affairs of pakistan for the fifth time this time bangladesh and egypt style

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from my point of view forces always dropped the onus on politicians remember 1971 forces were responsible but we keep on lampooning politicians for the humiliation

Only forces cant blamed for 1971 , politicians played their part in this too . Politicians were totally failed on agreeing on power sharing formula and every politician want a big share of power , thats why this all happened and yes Yehya was also responsible for this mess too.

 

[Waffen SS]

Oh God!!

This woman has commited BLASPHEMY against our HOLY COW.

How dare she abuse the HOLY COW which has created a stable, peaceful and prosperous Pakistan.

She is an agent of RAW/MOSSAD/CIA. Kill her! Kill her! Kill her!

 

[W.11]

we have to remove the disease called NP, they are the traitor party much worse then awami katil league of bengladesh

 

[SQ8]

DG ISI should show his willingness to face a judicial inquiry regarding this allegation.
Let us see whether this is blame game or government really does initiate an inquiry.
After all this is the common interest of all parties including the one in government.

DG ISI should face court martial if this is proven to be the case, in my opinion.
If this is not proven, then he shall be vindicated and that is also very good since it shall end a lot of rumors.

However resignation over something not proven is not required.
Resignation over OBL fiasco was something i would have wanted from DG ISI...but alas it was not going to happen.

The opposite seems to be happening.
the DG ISI may end up asking the Civvies to resign and get lost.

 

[All-Green]

The opposite seems to be happening.
the DG ISI may end up asking the Civvies to resign and get lost.

If Memo is fact then the responsible Civvies should also get lost...however those not responsible cannot be hailed as traitors.
Same goes for the political dealings of DG ISI...if found true.

 

[Waffen SS]

we have to remove the disease called NP, they are the traitor party much worse then awami katil league of bengladesh

My brother, we did try to remove the Awami League and we all know what happened on this very day, 16th December.

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This reminds me about the great general Field Marshall Erich von Manstein, arguably the greatest general of the post-napoleonic era.

Germany's fate had been sealed by 1944 and utter destruction was undeniably on its way. Some allied commanders and a few german officers asked Manstein to stage a coup against Adolf Hitler so a ceasefire could be negotiated once Hitler was removed from power.

MANSTEIN; the architect of the SICKLE STROKE, the mastermind of the BATTLE OF KIRCH PENINSULA and the magician at the THIRD BATTLE OF KHARKOV; uttered these words,

"PRUSSIAN GENERALS DO NOT MUTINY".​

A military commander, whose performance can't be paralelled by many in history, chose to OBEY HIS POLITICAL LEADERSHIP EVEN IN THE WAKE OF SURE DEFEAT. A true soldier will always honor his obedience to the leadership. Manstein refused to go against the HIGHEST OF THE TRADITIONS OF HIS FAMILY WHICH SERVED IN THE PRUSSIAN ARMY FOR CENTURIES.

Just some food for thought for those who boast that they are PROFESIONAL SOLDIERS i.e. Pakistani generals.

 

[karan.1970]

So now even accusations for political robbery (coup) are added to the charges of murder that Maj Gen Pasha needs to defend himself against.. ??

What do they say about " Even the Appearances of Impropriety " etc etc

 

[I M Sikander]

Oh God!!

This woman has commited BLASPHEMY against our HOLY COW.

How dare she abuse the HOLY COW which has created a stable, peaceful and prosperous Pakistan.

She is an agent of RAW/MOSSAD/CIA. Kill her! Kill her! Kill her!

You are absolutely right dear, she has dared to question DG ISI. ISI people will kill her like saleem shehzad.

It is about time to sack and court martial the (Kayani , Pasha nexus).

Gen. Pasha had already committed enough stupidities sufficient for his court martial.
I wish the bloody civilian and politicians had the power some day to held accountable the greedy and incompitant generals.

 

[53fd]

I think people seem to forget that Gen Pasha was willing to hand in resignation in the wake of the May 2 incident, but was asked to stay on.