Dear, kindly update ur self, Pakistan and China actually signed an agreement during Ayub era for boarder disputed areas and pakistan accepted chinese claim over over aksai chin.
WHo gave, general Ayub to take back Pakistani claim over any land.
If i accept ur logic then similarly Pakistan should accept the Indian claim over Gilgit baltistan, Azad Kashmir.
And Afghan claim over KP and northern parts of baluchistan.
I would once again request you to kindly update urself in this regard, yahya actually handed over part of baluchistan and it was handed over to iran for nothing. Check the information from pakistan institute of strategic studies.
Vow! my dear what an argument to justify the blunder of Gen. Zia. How would Bhuto know about the ground situation in siachin region in 1972. When the field commanders of PA were sleeping even in 1984, until indian army got their pants down.
PA sucks and a loser, if the same had happened with indians, they would have shown PA how to safe guard the holy land.
- PA try to capture kargil just like indians did in siachin, And then indian successfully got back their mountains. This is how respectable nation reply.
Musharaf , ISI and its generals let taliban got control of FATA. They were so busy in political manipulations, organizing the King's Party Q-league and fraud referendum that they didn't get time to have a look at FTA when arab, tajik, Uzbik, Egyptians Arba and Afghan terrorists took complete control over FATA. Even today core commander Peshawar can not dare to visit any FTA agency by road.
and Yes you are right. why should we blame musharaf, Actually we should not, since he is a bloody men in uniform, so he is untouchable.
Please dont try to justify the miss deeds and bunders of our military establishment.
I can never forget how our generals and javan surrendered in 1971. This isn't how respectable nations behaves. General Naizi saluted Ajit sigh Arora and handed over his pistol. Our javans gave guard of honour to indian general and saluted the indian and bangladeshi flags in palton ground. It really hurts us.
It is about time that men in unifor should realize that they servants not masters of this country. Military supremacy since 1958 has already bleeded Pakistan a lot.
Nearly all of these events happened within my lifetime and I feel deeply grieved to see when people make historically inaccurate statements.
In the Pakistan China border Accord of March 2, 1963, China conceded about 750 Sq. miles of area to Pakistan in return for recognizing China sovereignty over areas of Ladakh and Northern Kashmir. These areas lie in the Indian occupied territory and were not under Pakistani control. Pakistan had never claimed any part of Aksai Chin.
1948 UN resolution about Kashmir only says that Kashmiris have a right to decide whether they want to join Pakistan or India, it never said that Kashmir belongs to Pakistan. It is a highly presumptuous to take for granted that Kashmiris will join Pakistan, secondly if we somehow get Kashmir we would lay claim to Aksai Chin as well. If it was a foregone conclusion, why have the referendum at all?
For the record, China was already in possession of most of Aksai Chin and what was left was captured by China in 1962 War with India and current boundary between Indian & China runs along the McMahon Line. Thus no land under actual Pakistani control was given to China, Pakistan gained land instead. Pakistan simply accepted a 'Fait a complait'. You should thank Ayub Khan because as a result Pakistan and China have been great friends since.
Some malcontents have on occasion spread false rumours about Iran-Pakistan. I have heard many times that a river of oil is flowing underneath Baluchistan and Iran is not allowing us to drill it out. Now you claim that Yahya Khan gave oil bearing Pak lands to Iran. Nothing can be further from from the truth.
Iran has about 150 billion barrels oil reserves in addition to about 1000 Trillion cft of gas. All of these areas are on the Western border of Iran and along the Persian Gulf cost. To date, not a single oil bearing structure has been found on Iran’s eastern border. Similarly all the oil & gas finds in Pak Baluchistan have been on the Eastern side and a good 300 Km away from Iran border. This accusation is thus totally unfounded.
Two very prominent scholars; Dr Inayat Baluch in his ‘Problems of greater Baluchistan’ makes no mention of any accord signed by Gen Yahya Khan re Baluchistan border. Dr Mansoor Akbar Kindi – VC of Gomal University in ‘BO R D E R L A N D IN T E R A C T I O N: TH E CA S E O F PA K- IR A N I A N BA L O C H’ has nothing about it either. What I wrote in my earlier post that Pak- Iran border demarcation based on 1896 is based upon the narrative of the two aforementioned scholars.
I am not aware of any historian of note working for Pakistan Institute of Strategic studies. Dr Shireen Mazari is a Political Scientist and known for writing controversial articles in the ‘Nation which later proved to be false. The one example ‘Mysterious US Nationals’ appeared as front page story on Nov 20, 2009. The person turned out to be award-winning Australian photojournalist Daniel Berehulak. So much for the veracity of Dr Mazari. She is now with Imran Khan.
There is no doubt that India has forcibly occupied the Pakistan area on the Siachin. Due to the area’s geographical location, Pakistan did not have the resources to launch any larger attack than what we did. Additionally, it is a fact that Pakistan is not in a position to beat India by force. We tried this in 1965 without success. In 1971 we were beaten badly and again in Kargil we had to make an ignominious retreat. Therefore once occupied by Indian Army, Pakistan couldn’t have taken it back by force. Despite the fact that I despise Zia ul Haq, I cannot put this blame on Zia as the same thing would have happened whosoever was in power.
FATA happened within the last few years. If in your greater wisdom you really believe that Musharraf handed FATA over to the terrorists, you are welcome to your opinion. However these terrorists are real ungrateful SOB’s as they tried to kill Musharraf twice.
I am just an ordinary Pakistani student of history and can only try point out what I think is not historically correct. Of course you being a very knowledgably person have every right to believe whatever you wish.
Finally, surrender at Dacca was no doubt a great shame. I was in Karachi at that time, saw it on the TV and the memory is still vivid. I totally agree that the coward Niazi should not have surrendered and go down fighting.
If you have read Hamudur Rahman report. You would have noticed that ZA Bhutto, by refusing to sit in the parliament if it was called, also shares a lot of blame.
