Is There Still Genuine Hope From Imran Khan?

[criticalerror]

I cherish the day when NAB or any PTI supporter takes the Shareefs to the Old Bailey(UK SC)on corrupt practices,tax evasion and money laundering. My Only fear is Imran will be exposed dead naked on his phoney narrative.

We don’t need to try NS under UK laws because he didn’t steal from the UK. He stole from Pakistan.We try him with the law of the land. And the law of the land has found him wanting.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

We don’t need to try NS under UK laws because he didn’t steal from the UK. He stole from Pakistan.We try him with the law of the land. And the law of the land has found him wanting.

Wrong assertion money trail of Mayfair flats is the crux of the issue. I know Imran has very wealthy friends here. A panel of six Barristers is enough to take down a whole country let alone the Shareefs. His ex brother in law is very influential in the ruling conservative party. Oh come on let the issue be buried for good.
A few wealthy Nigerians,Cyperiots and Russians were jailed and their properties confiscated on similar issues.

 

[ziaulislam]

I cherish the day when NAB or any PTI supporter takes the Shareefs to the Old Bailey(UK SC)on corrupt practices,tax evasion and money laundering. My Only fear is Imran will be exposed dead naked on his phoney narrative.

Uk laws or any other rax heaven laws encourages money laundering and will never take any one of 1000s of rich polticans sitting there with out hard evidence of transaction record which doesnt even exist..who in their right mind would be so stupid...had the laws been stricter all those african and south asian polticans would have been in a different country rather than UK

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Uk laws or any other rax heaven laws encourages money laundering and will never take any one of 1000s of rich polticans sitting there with out hard evidence of transaction record which doesnt even exist..who in their right mind would be so stupid...had the laws been stricter all those african and south asian polticans would have been in a different country rather than UK

The laws are still relevant for all offshore tax heavens. The purpose of havens is only tax savings all laws regarding money laundering and corrupt practices are still valid.
Recently capital gains taxes were introduced for overseas investors also. Hasan and hussain are UK citizens and full UK rules apply to them.

 

[criticalerror]

Wrong assertion money trail of Mayfair flats is the crux of the issue. I know Imran has very wealthy friends here. A panel of six Barristers is enough to take down a whole country let alone the Shareefs. His ex brother in law is very influential in the ruling conservative party. Oh come on let the issue be buried for good.
A few wealthy Nigerians,Cyperiots and Russians were jailed and their properties confiscated on similar issues.

And where is the said money trail of the Mayfair assets?
If at any time you wish to leave the debate , you may. But if you are going to debate then please stay relevant to the topic of discussion rather than going on random rants. I would like all the corrupt mafia to be buried for good.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

And where is the said money trail of the Mayfair assets?
If at any time you wish to leave the debate , you may. But if you are going to debate then please stay relevant to the topic of discussion rather than going on random rants. I would like all the corrupt mafia to be buried for good.

At the moment i am debating on six different topics i am not an octopus. Its most convenient for me to flood this forum with videos,clips,tweets and quotes. I have taken the hard route.
According to the testaments in court the flats were held in offshore companies and the ownership was exchanged on issuance of bearer bonds. These bearer bonds are accepted by the court of law here.

 

[criticalerror]

At the moment i am debating on six different topics i am not an octopus. Its most convenient for me to flood this forum with videos,clips,tweets and quotes. I have taken the hard route.
According to the testaments in court the flats were held in offshore companies and the ownership was exchanged on issuance of bearer bonds. These bearer bonds are accepted by the court of law here.

I m sorry to burden you. That’s why i gave you the option to leave the debate at your convenience. But if you continue, lets stick to the topic. I haven’t given you one single reference from social media since I don’t use it. At all. Only whatsapp, that too strictly for communication.

The problem with the Sharif testaments were that there were three or more versions. They lived in rented flats. They suddenly became owners Etc. There were conflicting statement throughout the entire case proceedings. Anyone having solid proof of ownership does not give conflicting statements to prove ownership and legal transfer of money. Till the final day, they could not provide any trail admissible on court. Only fairy tales of Qatari princes riding on arabic horses carrying the money .

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

I m sorry to burden you. That’s why i gave you the option to leave the debate at your convenience. But if you continue, lets stick to the topic. I haven’t given you one single reference from social media since I don’t use it. At all. Only whatsapp, that too strictly for communication.

The problem with the Sharif testaments were that there were three or more versions. They lived in rented flats. They suddenly became owners Etc. There were conflicting statement throughout the entire case proceedings. Anyone having solid proof of ownership does not give conflicting statements to prove ownership and legal transfer of money. Till the final day, they could not provide any trail admissible on court. Only fairy tales of Qatari princes riding on arabic horses carrying the money .

Come on bro its silly we are just running around circles let me ask you some questions.
1) Who is the current PM.
2)How did he become a billionaire etc.
3)How much is the land worth of confiscated Ittefaq foundary now.
4)When was ittefaq groups first sugar mill erected.
5)What millitary hardware Ittefaq gp make in the 60s.
6) How many employees did the group have in the late 60s.
I need to check your knowledge before i realise i am not debating with a teenager.

 

[criticalerror]

Come on bro its silly we are just running around circles let me ask you some questions.
1) Who is the current PM.
2)How did he become a billionaire etc.
3)How much is the land worth of confiscated Ittefaq foundary now.
4)When was ittefaq groups first sugar mill erected.
5)What millitary hardware Ittefaq gp make in the 60s.
6) How many employees did the group have in the late 60s.
I need to check your knowledge before i realise i am not debating with a teenager.

We ll move to another debate when you answer the questions in this one. Ok let me respond like you have so far

1) Current PM of Russia is Vladimir Putin. He’s the president but who’s counting.

2) He became a billionaire by reigning in all the oligarchs and making them pay their due share.

3) The land worth of Crimea is 1.8Billion USD


4) It was annexed in February 2014

5) It made MI-35 helicopters and Mig-21 bisons.

6) it had 20 million employees at the time.


See what i did there? I answered all your questions with absurd rants not remotely relevant to the topic of discussion. You can hide behind your age and condescension all you want. You have not made a single coherent answer to any questions asked. So who’s the hormonal teenager here ? That’s the 64 million dollar question.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

We ll move to another debate when you answer the questions in this one. Ok let me respond like you have so far

1) Current PM of Russia is Vladimir Putin. He’s the president but who’s counting.

2) He became a billionaire by reigning in all the oligarchs and making them pay their due share.

3) The land worth of Crimea is 1.8Billion USD


4) It was annexed in February 2014

5) It made MI-35 helicopters and Mig-21 bisons.

6) it had 20 million employees at the time.


See what i did there? I answered all your questions with absurds rants not remotely relevant to the topic of discussion. You can hide behind your age and condescension all you want. You have not made a single coherent answer to any questions asked. So who’s the hormonal teenager here ? That’s the 64 million dollar question.

This is a teenager reply if you dont know the back ground its futile to waste energies.

 

[criticalerror]

This is a teenager reply if you dont know the back ground its futile to waste energies.

Yup. Whatever helps you sleep better at night. You still answered nothing so it is a waste of energies.

 

[Syed1.]

Yup. Whatever helps you sleep better at night. You still answered nothing so it is a waste of energies.

Just like a dog follows its master no matter what likewise a patwari will defend the Sharifs at all costs. Better to not waste time and energy.

 

[criticalerror]

Just like a dog follows its master no matter what likewise a patwari will defend the Sharifs at all costs. Better to not waste time and energy.

Oh believe me I expected the exact response. But in the process made him aware of his inadequate logic as well. Hence he left the debate with “main nahein khailta”!!!

 

[VCheng]

What a joke of a country and stupid nation we are,we deserve to remain an abnormal and banana republic.
1)1947-England is the cause for our problems.
2)1949-India is the cause for our problems.
3)1949-1958 Politicians are the cause for our problems.
4)1958-1971 Generals are the cause for our problems.
5)1971-1977 Bhutto is the cause for our problems.
6)1977-1988 Zia is the cause for our problems.
7)1988-1990 PPP are the cause for our problems.
8)1990-1992 Pmln are the cause for our problems.
9)1999-2007 Musharaf is the cause for our problems.
10)2008-2013 Zardari is the cause for our problems.
11)2013-2018 Nawaz is the cause for our problems.

Conclusion: WE are the cause of our problems.

 

[Thorough Pro]

In current situation the only hope is from Imran Khan only.
The issues we are facing are not created by him, he is trying to resolve them.

Imran Khan became PM from a Khant metaphor but barely eight months into he was forced to do a major shuffle in Federal cabinet and changes in Punjab and KPK on cards. With economic indicators as they are and IK's team selection a question mark and haphazard and on the fly kind of government is making die hard supporters disenfranchised, how many PDF members still have hope from IK and on what basis. I for one still wants to search a glimmer of hope somewhere!!!