Is Pakistan moving towards a Civil Disobedience Movement ?

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

And we have a release & Launch to look forward to start the objective of elections

 

[Adnan12333]

Afghanistan = People of Afghanistan
Libya = People of Libya
Iraq = People of Iraq
Yemen = People of Yemen

Devoid of institutions....naray-baazi, rhetoric only goes so far.

Can you please elaborate on what sort of pak do you want? A Pakistan where this corrupt elite keep on ruling this country where there’s no justice. We are not against army but we are against injustice and a few Generals on the top who think they are bigger than the state. They think they are untouchable and can’t be questioned. They have created a mess and now they are telling us we will turn into Libya Iraq. Guess what we are heading there. There’s lawlessness. 16 people killed in broad day light no action. That factory fire incident no action. These PDM who was abusing army every single day has been imposed on the people of pak and then they expect people of pak to protect Army. If we don’t do civil disobedience and believe what the current government was saying then this is what they were saying” yeh jo dehsatgardi ha iss k peecha’

 

[Acetic Acid]

Are you ready for a fatwa to declare imran kahn dajjal

 

[ARMalik]

He just wants to return and keep ruling within the existing system.

If this is true, then WHY WOULD THE ESTABLISHMENTS NOT OBLIGED??

 

[Sayfullah]

For those advocating for civil war or rebellion:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7053:
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2955
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3988
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said:

"Killing a believer is more grievous before Allah than the extinction of the whole world."

Sahih al-Bukhari 7076
Narrated `Abdullah:

The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4118
It was narrated from Abu Musa that:

The Prophet [SAW] said: "If two Muslims confront each other with swords, and one kills the other, they will both be in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, (we understand about) the killer, but what about the one who is killed?" He said: "He wanted to kill his companion."

Mishkat al-Masabih 3484
Abu Huraira reported God’s Messenger as saying:

“If anyone helps in killing a believer to the extent of half a word,* he will meet God with ‘Despairing of God’s mercy’ written on his forehead.”
Ibn Majah transmitted it. * This is taken to mean that it is a serious matter even to utter half the word which expresses an intention to kill a believer.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1395
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The world ceases to exist is less significant to Allah than killing a Muslim man."

This is for all the r*tard idiots wanting civil war in Pakistan.
IF YOU DIE FIGHTING MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON (imported government isn’t a valid reason) YOU WILL GO TO HELL ACCORDING TO SHAHIH HADITH.
If you are advocating for civil war, you are no different then ttp, isis and other khawarij terrorists!

 

[Tamerlane]

If this is true, then WHY WOULD THE ESTABLISHMENTS NOT OBLIGED??

Because America and India don't want him.

Imran Khan was working within the status quo and keeping Pakistan stable. America and India don't want a stable Pakistan. They want it to go down.

From what he has said till now, Imran Khan is not a revolutionary. I've never heard him ask for a new constitution, or presidential system or anything extraordinary like that.

 

[Adnan12333]

For those advocating for civil war or rebellion:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7053:
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2955
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3988
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said:

"Killing a believer is more grievous before Allah than the extinction of the whole world."

Sahih al-Bukhari 7076
Narrated `Abdullah:

The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4118
It was narrated from Abu Musa that:

The Prophet [SAW] said: "If two Muslims confront each other with swords, and one kills the other, they will both be in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, (we understand about) the killer, but what about the one who is killed?" He said: "He wanted to kill his companion."

Mishkat al-Masabih 3484
Abu Huraira reported God’s Messenger as saying:

“If anyone helps in killing a believer to the extent of half a word,* he will meet God with ‘Despairing of God’s mercy’ written on his forehead.”
Ibn Majah transmitted it. * This is taken to mean that it is a serious matter even to utter half the word which expresses an intention to kill a believer.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1395
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The world ceases to exist is less significant to Allah than killing a Muslim man."

This is for all the r*tard idiots wanting civil war in Pakistan.
IF YOU DIE FIGHTING MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON (imported government isn’t a valid reason) YOU WILL GO TO HELL ACCORDING TO SHAHIH HADITH.
If you are advocating for civil war, you are no different then ttp, isis and other khawarij terrorists

For those advocating for civil war or rebellion:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7053:
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2955
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3988
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said:

"Killing a believer is more grievous before Allah than the extinction of the whole world."

Sahih al-Bukhari 7076
Narrated `Abdullah:

The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4118
It was narrated from Abu Musa that:

The Prophet [SAW] said: "If two Muslims confront each other with swords, and one kills the other, they will both be in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, (we understand about) the killer, but what about the one who is killed?" He said: "He wanted to kill his companion."

Mishkat al-Masabih 3484
Abu Huraira reported God’s Messenger as saying:

“If anyone helps in killing a believer to the extent of half a word,* he will meet God with ‘Despairing of God’s mercy’ written on his forehead.”
Ibn Majah transmitted it. * This is taken to mean that it is a serious matter even to utter half the word which expresses an intention to kill a believer.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1395
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The world ceases to exist is less significant to Allah than killing a Muslim man.

For those advocating for civil war or rebellion:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7053:
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2955
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3988
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said:

"Killing a believer is more grievous before Allah than the extinction of the whole world."

Sahih al-Bukhari 7076
Narrated `Abdullah:

The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4118
It was narrated from Abu Musa that:

The Prophet [SAW] said: "If two Muslims confront each other with swords, and one kills the other, they will both be in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, (we understand about) the killer, but what about the one who is killed?" He said: "He wanted to kill his companion."

Mishkat al-Masabih 3484
Abu Huraira reported God’s Messenger as saying:

“If anyone helps in killing a believer to the extent of half a word,* he will meet God with ‘Despairing of God’s mercy’ written on his forehead.”
Ibn Majah transmitted it. * This is taken to mean that it is a serious matter even to utter half the word which expresses an intention to kill a believer.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1395
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The world ceases to exist is less significant to Allah than killing a Muslim man."

This is for all the r*tard idiots wanting civil war in Pakistan.
IF YOU DIE FIGHTING MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON (imported government isn’t a valid reason) YOU WILL GO TO HELL ACCORDING TO SHAHIH HADITH.
If you are advocating for civil war, you are no different then ttp, isis and other khawarij terrorists!

A) this Hadith doesn’t apply on today’s scenario. Islam doesn’t preach injustice in fact it teaches you if you see injustice try to stop it with your hand if you can’t do that try to stop it with your tongue and if you can’t do that then at least consider it wrong in your heart and the last one is the lowest form of iman

 

[Thinker3]

For those advocating for civil war or rebellion:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7053:
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2955
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3988
It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said:

"Killing a believer is more grievous before Allah than the extinction of the whole world."

Sahih al-Bukhari 7076
Narrated `Abdullah:

The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief).

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4118
It was narrated from Abu Musa that:

The Prophet [SAW] said: "If two Muslims confront each other with swords, and one kills the other, they will both be in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, (we understand about) the killer, but what about the one who is killed?" He said: "He wanted to kill his companion."

Mishkat al-Masabih 3484
Abu Huraira reported God’s Messenger as saying:

“If anyone helps in killing a believer to the extent of half a word,* he will meet God with ‘Despairing of God’s mercy’ written on his forehead.”
Ibn Majah transmitted it. * This is taken to mean that it is a serious matter even to utter half the word which expresses an intention to kill a believer.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1395
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The world ceases to exist is less significant to Allah than killing a Muslim man."

This is for all the r*tard idiots wanting civil war in Pakistan.
IF YOU DIE FIGHTING MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON (imported government isn’t a valid reason) YOU WILL GO TO HELL ACCORDING TO SHAHIH HADITH.
If you are advocating for civil war, you are no different then ttp, isis and other khawarij terrorists!

It will be disobedience to Allah that we accept US slavery and accept those who accept US Slavery and serve US interests, all enemies of Islam are happy. Miftah Ismail today mocked Quran this shows the level of people that have been installed on us. This is not only struggle for freedom but also struggle for Islam.
And our Ruler is Imran Khan who was betrayed and ousted.
Are you bringing these hadiths to defend the slaves of US?
We don't want Civil war, those who are serving US interests want that and are doing things that can lead to such.

 

[Adnan12333]

A) this Hadith doesn’t apply on today’s scenario. Islam doesn’t preach injustice in fact it teaches you if you see injustice try to stop it with your hand if you can’t do that try to stop it with your tongue and if you can’t do that then at least consider it wrong in your heart and the last one is the lowest form of iman

Hazrat umar use to questioned by an ordinary Arab about the piece of cloth and he answered those queries and you aren’t even allowed to question.

 

[ARMalik]

Because America and India don't want him.

Imran Khan was working within the status quo and keeping Pakistan stable. America and India don't want a stable Pakistan. They want it to go down.

From what he has said till now, Imran Khan is not a revolutionary. I've never heard him ask for a new constitution, or presidential system or anything extraordinary like that.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. So Pakistan establishment wants to risk a civil war just because they don;t like how ONE person speaks and behaves??

 

[Sayfullah]

A) this Hadith doesn’t apply on today’s scenario. Islam doesn’t preach injustice in fact it teaches you if you see injustice try to stop it with your hand if you can’t do that try to stop it with your tongue and if you can’t do that then at least consider it wrong in your heart and the last one is the lowest form of iman

Hazrat umar use to questioned by an ordinary Arab about the piece of cloth and he answered those queries and you aren’t even allowed to question.

There’s no justification for a civil war in Pakistan rn. There’s strict criteria that has to be met before you can justify rebelling against a ruler. Just because the government was imposed by usa isn’t enough to support a rebellion in which millions Of Muslims will be killed. Islam tells us to stop injustice but Islam also tells us when a rebellion can be justified or not. Just look at the example of the salaf.

It will be disobedience to Allah that we accept US slavery and accept those who accept US Slavery and serve US interests, all enemies of Islam are happy. Miftah Ismail today mocked Quran this shows the level of people that have been installed on us. This is not only struggle for freedom but also struggle for Islam.
And our Ruler is Imran Khan who was betrayed and ousted.
Are you bringing these hadiths to defend the slaves of US?
We don't want Civil war, those who are serving US interests want that and are doing things that can lead to such.

I’m not saying to except imported government. What I wrote was dedicated for the people advocating for civil war.

 

[Thinker3]

There’s no justification for a civil war in Pakistan rn. There’s strict criteria that has to be met before you can justify rebelling against a ruler. Just because the government was imposed by usa isn’t enough to support a rebellion in which millions Of Muslims will be killed. Islam tells us to stop injustice but Islam also tells us when a rebellion can be justified or not. Just look at the example of the salaf.


I’m not saying to except imported government. What I wrote was dedicated for the people advocating for civil war.

No one is advocating for Civil War, people are just saying that the way things are going can lead to Civil War or Civil unrest.
what do you mean by the example of Salaf?

 

[Tamerlane]

This doesn't make a lot of sense. So Pakistan establishment wants to risk a civil war just because they don;t like how ONE person speaks and behaves??

Isn’t that what the Americans ordered? Get rid of Imran Khan and all will be forgiven?

The Pakistani establishment has done regime changes dozens of times before, including their own COAS, Musharraf, and nothing happened. So, they expect to get away with it this time as well.

History tells us that Pakistanis are very docile people and are willing to accept all kinds of humiliation. Time will tell if they behave differently this time. It depends on how far IK/PTI and the public are willing to go.

 

[Thinker3]

There’s no justification for a civil war in Pakistan rn. There’s strict criteria that has to be met before you can justify rebelling against a ruler. Just because the government was imposed by usa isn’t enough to support a rebellion in which millions Of Muslims will be killed. Islam tells us to stop injustice but Islam also tells us when a rebellion can be justified or not. Just look at the example of the salaf.


I’m not saying to except imported government. What I wrote was dedicated for the people advocating for civil war.

Also, what is the Salafi Criteria to Justify rebellion against a ruler?

 

[Sayfullah]

Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (d. 241H) stated in his work, Usūlus-Sunnah as is recorded in Sharhu Usūlil-I’tiqād of Al-Lālikā’ee (1/161):

“It is not permissible for anyone among the people to fight the ruler and nor to rise up against him. And whosoever does that is an innovator, upon other than the Sunnah and upon other than the Straight Path.”

Shaikh Al-Islām Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah’s mercy be upon him) said:
“Being patient with the tyranny of the rulers is a fundamental principle (asl) from the fundamentals of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamā’ah.” (Majmoo’ Al-Fatāwa 28/179)

Al-Imām Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H) stated: “There have not been a people who revolted against their ruler except that their condition after their rebellion was worse than before they rebelled.” (Minhāj As-Sunnah 3/231)

No one is advocating for Civil War, people are just saying that the way things are going can lead to Civil War or Civil unrest.
what do you mean by the example of Salaf?

My post was directed towards those who are advocating for civil war.
Look at what the salaf would do in this situation