Is Imran Khan making desperate moves?

[Acetic Acid]

I said this to PDM fan boys, dirty establishment has messed with the wrong guy, last nights global protests is just a sign that things will get out of establishments control very quick and it will be heading that way very soon.

They're making desperate moves
Kidnapping PTI social media workers and treating them like mukhti bani will further fuel the fire

 

[ghazi52]

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[blain2]

Either we continue to play a careful and balanced game, or we leverage the street power IK can muster to manage. The latter option is required to speed up and enforce changes in this corrupted country. But it does require conviction and courage, are Pakistanis prepared to go all in and convey a powerful message? I do understand right now I am a mere keyboard warrior, but a revolution is what is needed in order to grind this country and the associated cancer to a halt.

To put it frank, the state institutions need to feel the blistering heat of the fed up Pakistani population, otherwise they will just chug along as usual, catering to the highest bidder.

Then again, it took Erdogan somewhat 15 years in order to transform Turkey to a Presidential system, I for one hope that Imran Khan can perform a similar feat.

We had a presidential system till 18th Amendment was activated. We have actual experience of rule by Presidential decrees for a very long time in Pakistan. It is just that we did not elect the President directly but they were a powerful bunch. I am not sure what bringing a Presidential system will do (not that I have any interest in the British parliamentary system either). You still have to muster votes etc. for a Presidential system and that process can be corrupted too.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

We had a presidential system till 18th Amendment was activated. We have actual experience of rule by Presidential decrees for a very long time in Pakistan. It is just that we did not elect the President directly but they were a powerful bunch. I am not sure what that'll do. You still have to muster votes etc.

no system will work where you have to prove your loyalty to foreign powers just for measly dollars and selling your self-respect.

Imran Khan is spot on. Even people of different political parties are siding with him. Ex-airforce,naval, and army officers too.

May Allah protect Imran khan and people of Pakistan, ameen.

 

[WotTen]

We had a presidential system till 18th Amendment was activated.

People think the presidential system is some sort of panacea but, at least in the US, the President can be impeached. So even a presidential system can be controlled if you throw enough money at the thieves.

 

[blain2]

People think the presidential system is some sort of panacea but, at least in the US, the President can be impeached. So even a presidential system can be controlled if you throw enough money at the thieves.

Yes, so it is not about the system. Rather the people who run the system.

 

[Acetic Acid]

People think the presidential system is some sort of panacea but, at least in the US, the President can be impeached. So even a presidential system can be controlled if you throw enough money at the thieves.

It's not easy to impech
2/3 majority is required and then a strong case

 

[WotTen]

I don't see any issue with the first 2 - they were political moves revolving around a completely new situation, based on the interpretation of the constitution provided by IK's legal advisors. They were both fair.

In the US, Republicans held up Obama's Supreme Court nominee for a year using the filibuster, so why criticize IK for trying to use whatever options he had under the constitution?

All these tactics assume the institutions will play fair. We KNOW the courts are compromised. Imran Khan's team should make plans expecting the institutions to be complicit.

Corruption cases languish for decades but others are decided within hours, with the judges opening session at midnight.

The third point - more of a pressure tactic. Imran Khan's tweets today indicate that the path forward with protests is to apply pressure for early elections.

This also assumes a level playing field. Setting aside the fact that the ECP is 100% corrupt, even the media is corrupt. The current media blackout is only the first step.

The next step, which will include the Western media, will portray the protests as violent. Appropriate thugs will be injected into the protests and filmed as they loot and commit pre-planned violence. These are well-known tactics to discredit any popular movement.

 

[WotTen]

It's not easy to impech
2/3 majority is required and then a strong case

Do you really think the US can't afford to buy enough people? Whether a case is weak or strong is decided by these same crooks and marketed by the same crooked media.

 

[Acetic Acid]

Do you really think the US can't afford to buy enough people? Whether a case is weak or strong is decided by these same crooks and marketed by the same crooked media.

Yes
US can't afford to buy

 

[Verve]

US has no stake in Pak now. With Afg exit, why should US care about Pak

You are either a fool or a propagandist.

 

[Goritoes]

Pakistan Generals explaining what they are doing with Pakistan

 

[SIPRA]

He is totally encircled and cornered, by a pack of swine and dogs comprising of US-West, General Bajwa & Co, Bandial & Co. and criminal political mafias. Only two choices are left: 1) Surrender 2) Go down fighting. He seems to have opted for the second one.

 

[ziaulislam]

Right off the bat, I am a strong PTI supporter so it pains me to see Kaptaan making moves which I consider desperate. Let me give three examples

1. The Speaker's decision to cancel the NCV which was overturned by the SC.
2. The initial plan to filibuster the NVC after the SC ordered it reinstated.
3. The mass resignations which let Cherry Blossom sail through.

In each of these cases, Kaptaan and his advisers should have known the PDM's response. Let us never forget that we are not fighting paindoo Nawaaz and a few village men in a tea shop. This coup is being directed from Washington with the best Pakistani, Indian, American and other strategists that USD can buy. We KNOW the rot goes deep: the media, judiciary and possibly the army leadership are complicit.

I want the Kaptaan to play this game with a cool mind, anticipating the opposition's moves ten steps ahead. It seems instead that he is stumbling from one desperate act to another.

He played it cool and realized that playing cool means being played with not being the player

 

[Ghessan]

He dissolved the assembly. He called for elections to hold within next 90 days. He even named ex-CJ as caretaker PM but he is making desperate moves?

Nope, he didn't but Mr. Neutral made desperate moves.
1- Forcing allies to leave the sitting govt.
2- Suo moto by CJ violating article 69.
3- Sitting of SC bench on thursday, mid night to head CJ suo moto.
4- Blatant interference by SC in parliamentary affairs, dismissing deputy speaker's ruling without seeing the letter, the main reason behind the ruling.
5- Reopening of IHC at 8PM and ordering PM to not disclose the letter while secret act doesn't apply of him.
6- Restoring of dissolved national assembly by SC violating constitution.
7- Rejecting review petition by PTI at 3 PM because court's time was over but reopening of IHC and SC at 11 PM because some unknown person filed a petition at 10 PM mid night, which the petition dates back to March 2022.
8- Refusal by a retired general to head a commission to investigate the foreign conspiracy.
9- Court ordering PM to not to dismiss CAOS while it's PM prerogative.
10- Frequent visits by CAOS and DG ISI to PM house and asking him to leave or face consequences.
11- Total black out of PTI's protests across the country.
12- Names of PTI SMT on ECL.
13- Abducting of PTI SMT members by FIA.
14- Absence of FIA prosecutor in court for indictment of SS and HS.
Is it enough to see who made desperate moves?

his last move was keep delaying the NCV till midnight and it exposed the culprits behind the veil when IHC and SC reopens and yes it was a move, well played.

then he asked the journalists anybody left not against me and left the PM house.