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yes there can be hindu buddhist, confusious extremists.

it is a different matter that being an islamist extremist, you would believe that your religion is better than the other. because islam says so. likewise a hindu extremist will believe what hinduism says something. here lies the difference in what the religion preaches.

still different from a terrorist. he does something. it isn't the same...anyway i'm saying the same thing over and over again.

Actually Islam does preach tolerance and acceptance of other religions and other people, it is just that extremists have willfully chosen to take things out of context because this is what extremists do, there were in numerous occasions in history wither it be in China or India or Indochina, where Buddhist extremists did arise, most recent of which was the incident in Bruma.

So the nature of the idea does not really matter, it is the idea itself that promotes action that matters.
 
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LOL the guy is not able to tolerate others worshiping a different fellow.................and people like me who worship only themselves:lol:
1. See, that's where they are wrong!! Why do these idiots assume that people following different religions (paths) worship a "different fellow"?
2. Now thats more like it!! :)
 
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Actually no, taking a religion too extremely would also mean that Buddhist and Hindu Monks are also extremists, following a religion down to the letter does not make one an extremist, what makes one an extremist is saying that my religion is the only religion that is good and I am better than everybody alive because I am of that religion, also it does not have to be a religion, it could even be a video game, if two gangs went to a knife fight on the street with Call of Duty extremists on one side and Battlefield extremists on the other, it is basically the same exact thing, hence why I said it is an idea, and the nature of what particular idea one is extreme towards does not matter. It is the idea itself that matters.

And wither I am a Muslim or not, I can only answer you this, I don't personally care.
give it a rest,,,lets not talk philosophy,,,he may have wanted to say religious fundamentalist...:angel:
 
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give it a rest,,,lets not talk philosophy,,,he may have wanted to say religious fundamentalist...

Okay after I said my peace, you are free to follow whatever you wish, I only hope that I was able to convey what extremism really is and what it is not. I might have used some touching subjects and examples to clarify my though process on the subject, you are free to agree or disagree, despite of me believing what I stated is simply just facts that do not require intensive thought to understand.
 
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1. See, that's where they are wrong!! Why do these idiots assume that people following different religions (paths) worship a "different fellow"?
2. Now thats more like it!! :)

Damn man,,,the depth of ur comment made me fall from my chair:woot:
 
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if he do above all , that means he is a nice muslim .. and in order to be a nice muslim you have to be a nice human being ....

But OP does not hint towards his actions but just his ritualistic behavior..... I see no value of following any rituals blindly just because one is supposed to go by his religion be it Islam or Christian or Hindus or any religion for that mattee without getting into its logical reason....
Rituals n beliefs may be obsolete in present times becoz such things might have been established in,different time frame for situations which has no,relevance in today's time.....
 
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I have a lot of acquaintances in the food industry so even I have heard of such things but afaik according to what they have all told me they are 100% sure poultry labelled as halal is halal but not so sure concerning red meat, so Allahu alim.


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ملخص:

سنتناول في هذا البحث بالدراسة، أحد أشهر مقالات الإعجاز العددي في القرآن والمتعلقة بنسبتي كل من مساحة البر (اليابسة) ومساحة البحار والمحيطات على كوكب الأرض، وعدد المرات التي ذكرت فيها كلمة بر وكلمة بحر في القرآن الكريم، حيث توصل بعض الباحثين إلى وجود توافق مذهل بين الأمرين.
سنحاول في هذه الدراسة النقدية، أن نبين كيف أن هذا الربط كان مجانبا للصواب، بسبب عدم احترام الضوابط الصارمة التي وضعها العلماء والفقهاء لحماية أبحاث الإعجاز العلمي عامة من الشطط، كالتسرع وعدم عرض جميع الآيات الواردة في الموضوع، أو التعسف في إقحام آية أو معنى أجنبي عن الموضوع، بالإضافة إلى الخطأ في استخدام المعطى العلمي باعتباره حقيقة ثابتة.

الاعجاز العددي المزعوم:

تمثل محاولة الربط، بين عدد مرات ذكر كلمة بر وعدد مرات ورود كلمة بحر، في القرآن الكريم، وبين نسبة مساحة سطح اليابسة ومساحة البحار والمحيطات على كوكب الأرض، أحد أبرز مواضيع الإعجاز العددي في القرآن، فقد توصل البعض إلى وجود توافق عجيب بين الأمرين، حيث قالوا (ذكرت كلمة البحر (أي المياه) في القرآن الكريم اثنا وثلاثين (32) مرة، وذكرت كلمة البر (أي اليابسة) في القرآن ثلاث عشرة (13) مرة. فإذا جمعنا عدد كلمات البر وكلمات البحر فسنحصل على مجموع خمسة وأربعين (45). وبالتالي تكون نسبة كلمة بر إلى هذا المجموع هي 28.88%. وهي نفس نسبة مساحة اليابسة على كوكب الأرض، وتكون نسبة كلمة بحر هي71.11% وهي نفس نسبة مساحة البحار والمحيطات على كوكبنا (الشكل1), وبالتالي فإن البعض يرى في هذا الأمر "توافقا مذهلا" بين مقررات القرآن الكريم وبين معطيات العلم الحديث.

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الْبَحْر = Sea, exist in Quran 32 times.

Tanzil - Quran Navigator | القرآن الكريم

numbers 16,23,23,30,35 (البحرین،البحران) are not included.



Sea exist in Quran 32 times.

الْبَرِّ = Land

Land exist in Quran 12 times.

Tanzil - Quran Navigator | القرآن الكريم

32 + 13 = 45

100 / 45 = 2.222

32* 2.222 = 71

13* 2.222 = 28.8

Wikipedia:


The Earth's total land mass is 148,939,063.133 km2 (57,505,693.767 sq mi) which is about "29.2%" of its total surface. Water covers approximately "70.8%" of the Earth's surface, mostly in the form of oceans.


Land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


الله اکبر
 
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If the things mentioned in the list go to someones head, and make him/her believe that he/she is the man-of-God and others are inferior, then for sure he is an extremist.

And I tell you what, a majority of practicing Muslims does indeed think like that. I have seen this tamasha particularly among those who live in abroad, and do manage to follow all good deeds, yet consider others (that very much include fellow Muslims) inferior humans. I remember a friend of mine in States, whom I used to know from my days in Aga Khan University (where I used to teach). He invited us for a lunch, which we gladly accepted. He picked us up from our place, and chatted with both me and my wife (who does not cover her head), during 30 min drive. Upon reaching his home, we learned that his wife wont come in front of me. My wife took lunch with his in the kitchen whereas we had it in the living room. We later invited them several times but he refused to accept our invitation suspecting that we were not cooking halal (zabeeha) in our kitchen.

One of my Muslim colleague does strictly follow the same even avoid non veg food in official parties suspecting Jhatka not halal......
 
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Just superstitious but not an extremist.

Of course the author has carefully avoided what are his beliefs regarding

Gender equality
Place and rights of non believers
Place and rights of apostates and other sects
Barbaric punishments like chopping hands off or stoning

A clever post.... but too clever by half...
 
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I saw a guy once and he does the following actions:
  • He bears witness that there is no god but allah and that muhammad is his messenger.
  • He prays 5 times a day.
  • He pays his zekat.
  • He performs the hajj.
  • He fasts in ramadan.
The same guy believes in the following:
  • He believes in allah.
  • He believes in the angels.
  • He believes in the books sent down by allah.
  • He believes in allah's prophets.
  • He believes in the last day.
  • He believes in destiny.
Is this guy a religious extremist? :unsure:
No he is not..As a Hindu I dont think he is....To me he is a religious person and that's it!....But if the same person who is so religious tells me that I am wrong with my beliefs and preaches his beliefs to me and encroaches on my belief and would call me names because of what I believe..then He is a religious extremist...From what little I know of Islam..Islam is a peaceful religion if practiced the right way...the same applies to the people who follow any religion..be it Hinduism, Christianity..etc..etc...To me personally religion is a relationship with you and God..there should be no third party involved...My 2 Cents.
 
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Terrorism is just an expression of extremism, regardless of what side it comes from, that's why I hate an Atheist extremist who has gone to hate all form of religion and advocates its inferiority as equally as I do hate Islamic sheikhs who give a fatwa every two days and talk about how great their religion is and everyone else is inferior. They are both the same to me.

Being an atheist and being quite hostile to religion and faith systems, I don't agree with you, but I do understand what you are saying. It is not irrational.

Maybe you are not reading my replies correctly, I never said there is no such as Islamic terrorism, I do apologize is my vocabulary to complicated for you? Well any of my other Indian friends care to translate it to him please?



No action is ever derived without thought.

Not so.

There are thoughtless actions, spontaneous acts.

First of all gentile is a Jewish name for people like you and me, second the reason why non-Muslims do not attend madarsas is because the education taught in such places are either sub par or are entirely religious in nature so who would want to send their children to such places? Even in Pakistan those who can afford it prefer to send their children to private schools, only the poor are forced to send their children to madarsas or worse government run schools.



You should dumb it down a bit. :lol:

Non-Muslims do attend madrassahs.
 
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Offtopic but increase your iman:

Number of verses from the first verse of Surat al-Qamar to the end of the Qur’an = 1390
Date of the lunar landings (Islamic calendar) = 1390



Number of times the word "Moon" appears in the Qur’an = 27
Time it takes the Moon to travel round the Earth (in days) = 27



Number of times the word “land” appears in the Qur’an = 13
Number of times the word “sea” appears in the Qur’an = 32
Proportion of dry land to sea covering the Earth = 13/45 = 29%
Proportion of sea to dry land on Earth = 32/45 = 71%



The words “man” and “woman” both appear 23 times in the Qur’an.
The 23rd chromosome is the main element that determines an individual’s gender.



Verse 19:57 of the Qur’an speaks of “raising to a high place.”
"Sputnik 1," the first unmanned satellite, was launched in 1957.



Surat an-Nahl, meaning “Bee,” is the 16th Surah.
The bee has 16 chromosomes.



Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an


الله اکبر

This is an example of the kind of thing that makes religion ridiculous to me.

We = muslims specifically.

I make no bones about it and no one should.
This is the most important form of terrorism globally(well apart from USA of course:lol:) and people are just not willing to confront it.

If u think there is no problem then,well the debate is over:angel:

@Mosamania

You will get this kind of a position when people without a sense of history enter this kind of discussion. He has no idea that Islamic terrorism is a recent phenomenon.
 
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This is an example of the kind of thing that makes religion ridiculous to me.



@Mosamania

You will get this kind of a position when people without a sense of history enter this kind of discussion. He has no idea that Islamic terrorism is a recent phenomenon.


If u learn arabic u will not anymore.
 
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This is an example of the kind of thing that makes religion ridiculous to me.



@Mosamania

You will get this kind of a position when people without a sense of history enter this kind of discussion. He has no idea that Islamic terrorism is a recent phenomenon.

So what??
Point is its currently a serious threat to many countries.

The day hindus or sikhs do this i will be the first to condemn it.
Till then lets focus on problem on the current problem shall we
 
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