Is anyone else Agnostic/Atheist here?

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Ok-- No Problem
As a human- i can understand the situation- and i can feel this discrimination- its not fair-

Thank you, and I wish more Pakistanis openly took that position.

One serious question from my atheist and agnostic brothers and sisters out there- just for my General Knowledge-

What you believe will happen to you when you die?-

I am an agnostic, I have no clue.

Though I must say that the idea of heaven or reincarnation (with the same consciousness) is far more appealing than simply being 'turned off' for ever, and decomposing into oblivion.

 

[Mutee]

Sir don't get all worked up it's the land of the law not my law and u know why this law was created because they were very persistent to be called Muslims they were given an opportunity to make there case for full 2 days infrong of National assembly and they failed but I tell you on a personal note you are an admin here if you see all the posts here you would know that pakstani isn't my introduction Muslim that's my introduction I am Muslim first and everything later I love my country but it's not my tarif like ppl say Pakistan first not me and if the state of Pakistan made some law I haveno issues with it cuz it's my country

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am an agnostic, I have no clue.

Though I must say that the idea of heaven or reincarnation (with the same consciousness) is far more appealing than simply being 'turned off' for ever, and decomposing into oblivion.

Same here. I would love for there to be an afterlife... but as of right now, I just don't know.

 

[Andross]

Same here. I would love for there to be an afterlife... but as of right now, I just don't know.

No one knows some claim they believe they do hence why religion exist but there is no scientific proof to say 100% there is another life after death but i find cases of near-death experiences quite intresting.

 

[The HBS Guy]

@ Glorious Resolve:

That's what I wanted.

Now see,

A = Religion/God
B = Atheism
C = Anti-Religion/Anti-God

Being an atheist does not necessarily mean being Anti-God. In fact, most probably it wouldn't be the case.

 

[Hyde]

@jonasad I beleive everything ends when you die but i sopouse a better awnser would be i don't know. And people who think they are 100% sure about whats gonna happen well here is my awnser. I am not gonna beleive you and you ask why is that ? because i my self don't know for sure whats gonna happen and you don't posese any mental ability beyond my my mental ablites to know it.

peace

hahahaha that was very sweet

 

[VelocuR]

I am very surprised that most of popular active members are Agnostic/Athiests all over the world here in PDF. Most importantly I respect human beings because we are all human being and individuals choices. Sadly I have seen enough religious people--- there is a lack of tolerances, emotional, and very angry.

One thing is you need to know what happen after your death. Who give your breath and life here on Earth, it is sometimes strange people who forgot that.

 

[Mutee]

sir lot of pakistanis take the same position u took that minorities are being treated unfairly in Pakistan but just go on twitter and see what they say they call us dogs and reptiles so don't worry you have lot of ppl here who wud agree with you!

 

[The HBS Guy]

Same here. I would love for there to be an afterlife... but as of right now, I just don't know.

I'd hate it man. The chicks I broke up with would have me sent to hell.

Although not a bad idea. I could start my own Asset Management firm over there.

Asset Management for Sinners. I like the ring of that.

In short AMS.

I could even give you stock options if you bring me a few Chinese clients.

We could place bets on who gets fried how much in hellfire.

 

[JonAsad]

@jonasad I beleive everything ends when you die but i sopouse a better awnser would be i don't know. And people who think they are 100% sure about whats gonna happen well here is my awnser. I am not gonna beleive you and you ask why is that ? because i my self don't know for sure whats gonna happen and you don't posese any mental ability beyond my my mental ablites to know it.

peace

Hi- Thank You for your reply- very interesting reply indeed
Thats the only difference dear- i am hundred percent sure- that there will be judgement day- and we will be dealt with according to our deeds- Heaven or Hell- thats the ultimate purpose---- nothing is here in this world without a purpose- so why life?

 

[JonAsad]

@ Glorious Resolve:

That's what I wanted.

Now see,

A = Religion/God
B = Atheism
C = Anti-Religion/Anti-God

Being an atheist does not necessarily mean being Anti-God. In fact, most probably it wouldn't be the case.

Sir ji-- by putting B in middle of A and C-- and by looking at the over lapping-- i only understand this-- that B have some characteristics of A and some of C-- and by your representation i can assume the conclusion that-

B is a confused identity in the middle-
as
A = God-
and
C = Anti-God-

so B = God+Anti-God-----

There are two problems here--
1- i do not think atheists are confused- they have firm believe that there is No God-

and
2- the A B and C are maybe unique or independent entries but they are bonded by a chemical attraction in an environment or medium known as religion-

Without Religion- A B or C has no Independence value-

 

[Iota]

nothing is here in this world without a purpose

I'd have to disagree with you here. There are many things in this world that are here without a purpose. For example, what is the purpose of a person being born deaf/dumb/blind? What is the purpose of schizoprenia, and other mental disorders? What is the purpose of the floodings/earthquakes/tornadoes which cause lots of damage and take away many peoples' lives? What is the purpose of cancer and viruses? What is the purpose of other planets to exist when no human being can live a sustainable life on them?

 

[Dalai Lama]

Sir ji-- by putting B in middle of A and C-- and by looking at the over lapping-- i only understand this-- that B have some characteristics of A and some of C-- and by your representation i can assume the conclusion that-

B is a confused identity in the middle-
as
A = God-
and
C = Anti-God-

so B = God+Anti-God-----

There are two problems here--
1- i do not think atheists are confused- they have firm believe that there is No God-

and
2- the A B and C are maybe unique or independent entries but they are bonded by a chemical attraction in an environment or medium known as religion-

Without Religion- A B or C has no Independence value-

That diagram doesn't do a good job of explaining it. Think of two sets:

A = Religion
B = Anti-Religion
A-B = Atheism

 

[The HBS Guy]

Sir ji-- by putting B in middle of A and C-- and by looking at the over lapping-- i only understand this-- that B have some characteristics of A and some of C-- and by your representation i can assume the conclusion that-

B is a confused identity in the middle-
as
A = God-
and
C = Anti-God-

so B = God+Anti-God-----

There are two problems here--
1- i do not think atheists are confused- they have firm believe that there is No God-

and
2- the A B and C are maybe unique or independent entries but they are bonded by a chemical attraction in an environment or medium known as religion-

Without Religion- A B or C has no Independence value-

No my friend. You are turning the concept of Set Theory on its head.

A, B and C are not 'fluids' or 'concepts'. A,B and C are sets of human beings.

A human being who happens to believe in God/Religion (A) may doubt these and he/she will fall in (AB)

A human being who doubts the existence of God or doesn't believe it (B) may or may not hate these. If he hates them, he falls in BC while if he doesn't hate them, he falls in B-C (B minus C) and that could include even AB.

A human being who is staunchly anti God will fall in C. If he happens to doubt the existence of God, he will be BC. If he has no doubt in his mind and simply hates God/Religion, he'll be in C-B (C minus B).

Now lemme put this in examples.

Agnostic Muslim here lies in AB. All agnostics lie in AB.

Religious people lie in A-B

Simple atheists lie in B-A-C

Atheists who hate god lie in BC.

Simple god haters lie in C-B.

 

[Andross]

I'd have to disagree with you here. There are many things in this world that are here without a purpose. For example, what is the purpose of a person being born deaf/dumb/blind? What is the purpose of schizoprenia, and other mental disorders? What is the purpose of the floodings/earthquakes/tornadoes which cause lots of damage and take away many peoples' lives? What is the purpose of cancer and viruses? What is the purpose of other planets to exist when no human being can live a sustainable life on them?

Living is suffering like Buddah once said the aim is to reach Moksha/Nirvana to escape the endless birth and rebirth cycle is what many believe