"Iran should not allow Pakistan to play the role of the U.S. in Afghanistan."

[RoadRunner401]

How do comments against a hostile country translate into Shia Sunni hate?
Are you by any chance implying that those who are against irrational behavior of Mullah regime = Sunnis,
And those in favor = Shia?

This is how:

Yup. That was the best time. We would have extracted billions and billions of dollars and other resources from Arabs .

Did Iran think twice before massacring Sunnis worldwide to further its cause ? Pakistan won't do same because Pakistan's ruling elite and other state institutions have been hijacked by a particular sect whose loyalties we all know lie where.
Now Iranian members will try to deflect this matter and their Pakistani shias poodles will join them as well.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Yup. That was the best time. We would have extracted billions and billions of dollars and other resources from Arabs .

Did Iran think twice before massacring Sunnis worldwide to further its cause ? Pakistan won't do same because Pakistan's ruling elite and other state institutions have been hijacked by a particular sect whose loyalties we all know lie where.
Now Iranian members will try to deflect this matter and their Pakistani shias poodles will join them as well.

80,000 Pakistani including 10,000 security personals killed in terrorist attacks carried out by Wahhabi terrorists causing billions of dollars lost to the Pakistani economy all by Wahhabi and you are claiming Shias the problem... Must be nice!!! Wahhabi shedding crocodile tears for sunnis is priceless!!

 

[SalarHaqq]

Yes true they are many idiotic rantings of madmen and women in Pakistan. Yes they also hold seats of power i.e. are MP's, look at the likes of the PTM, PMLN etc. If we were to focus on every tweet they make we will be here all day.
That being said why does the Tehran Times run the headline "Iran should not allow Pakistan to play the role of the U.S. in Afghanistan"?
If this is one person why don't they confine him to small area of their footprint instead of leading on it.

Is it an actual headline in the classic sense? Here you can see the front page of the September 12 print issue of Tehran Times:

https://media.tehrantimes.com/d/t/2021/09/11/0/3887747.jpg

This item does not appear there, nor any mention of Pakistan. Seems like it's more of a subordinate Tweet among others.

Now as for Tehran Times itself and its relation to the state or government, martyr ayatollah Beheshti, a leading figure of the 1979 Revolution assassinated early on by the MKO terrorist cult, stated: "Tehran Times is not a state-owned newspaper, rather it must be the voice of the Islamic Revolution and the oppressed people in the world."

Over the years though, Tehran Times gained a reputation of being close to Foreign Ministry's staff of functionaries and technocrats - now mind you, these are career civil servants, who do not necessarily get replaced when a new administration takes over. This is precisely one of the issues the Raisi administration will be facing: although top spots at the Ministry are now in the hands of revolutionary or so-called conservative officials, like the new Foreign Minister himself (Amir Abdollahian), many if not most intermediary positions in the Ministry are still controlled by centrists. You cannot swap hundreds of civil servants and diplomats overnight.

And indeed, the majority of Iran's Foreign Ministry technocrats as far as I know should be close to the centrist (also referred to as moderate or pragmatic) faction formerly headed by the late Hashemi Rafsanjani (with parties such as Hezbe 'Etedal va Tose'e / Moderation and Development Party and so on). Outgoing President Rohani and his Foreign Minister Zarif belong to this faction as well.

And, this faction is in an alliance with reformists. Foreign policy wise, centrists and reformists are quasi completely aligned nowadays. In other terms, they are the ones who are currently spearheading the criticism of the establishment and the IRGC for its rapprochement policies with the Taleban.

If you look at revolutionary- oriented media outlets such as Fars News, Keyhan, Mashregh News, Raja News and many others, their tone surely differs. I shared some examples in the Afghanistan section, but statements which tend to trigger antagonism are often taken as representative of the entire Iranian state apparatus even if they aren't.

Hope this helps.

 

[El Sidd]

Hope this helps.

It doesn't actually.

You are sowing the seeds for an internal conflict in Iran by constantly dividing Iran in multiple factions and labels.

Iran has a population of 80 million. Multi cultural and multi ethnic. They would not be comfortable with constantly having to choose or having every argument painted either black or white.

Just open the border markets neighbouring Afghanistan. Only people to people contact can help with Afghanistan Iran situation.

 

[Falcon29]

Iran was playing role of US in Afghanistan and is now wanting to play role of US, India and Israel again. Opposed to Russian, Chinese and Pakistani stance for Afghanistan. Iran must leave Afghani's to be in peace and stop threatening interference in their affairs with what appears to be violent threats. Afghanistan had enough war.

 

[SalarHaqq]

It doesn't actually.

You are sowing the seeds for an internal conflict in Iran by constantly dividing Iran in multiple factions and labels.

Iran has a population of 80 million. Multi cultural and multi ethnic. They would not be comfortable with constantly having to choose or having every argument painted either black or white.

Just open the border markets neighbouring Afghanistan. Only people to people contact can help with Afghanistan Iran situation.

Different views do not imply system-threatening rifts. Nonetheless there are competing opinions on Afghanistan between Iranian political currents and these can be identified pretty well. You yourself said as much. So did Bahram Esfandiari. Take it up with him for a change, why are you always quoting me?

Societal interactions between Iran and Afghanistan were never interrupted and will never stop, no matter who's to be in charge in Kabul and Tehran.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

It doesn't actually.

You are sowing the seeds for an internal conflict in Iran by constantly dividing Iran in multiple factions and labels.

Iran has a population of 80 million. Multi cultural and multi ethnic. They would not be comfortable with constantly having to choose or having every argument painted either black or white.

Just open the border markets neighbouring Afghanistan. Only people to people contact can help with Afghanistan Iran situation.

You might not like it but SalarHaqq is not wrong in his assessment.

 

[El Sidd]

Take it up with him for a change, why are you constantly quoting me?

Ok. I shall only respond to you when you decide to quote me. The reason for my engagement is that you don't resort to behaviour not befitting a citizen of Islamic Iran.

You're misunderstanding it.

that is why i asked.

Societal interactions between Iran and Afghanistan were never interrupted and will never stop, no matter who's in charge in Kabul and Tehran.

That is the fundamental point. Both Governments should look towards ground realities rather than perceived illusions.

Undue pressure however remains least desired.

You might not like it but SalarHaqq is not wrong in his assessment.

his assessment is for internal consumption not for foreign dialogue.

 

[SalarHaqq]

The reason for my engagement is that you don't resort to behaviour not befitting a citizen of Islamic Iran.

Ok thanks, but do not worry. Here my wording was actually pretty tame compared to how Iranian activists from competing political camps engage each other. If interested, take a look at the thread I opened about the Keyhan editorialist's criticism of reformists and their anti-Taliban stance:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...gade-if-you-want-to-fight-the-taleban.723036/

Funny but also incisive stuff.

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1437045448137641984

 

[Battlion25]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1437045448137641984

This is an unrelated news but the Indian dropped it here..

 

[pakpride00090]

Yes I've also seen thousands defending the Saudis based on their sect. Both these groups need to put that love towards Pakistan.
Also stop making such comments which stroke the fires of sectarianism.

Yup.. can attest to it.

Since it was a Iranian related thread , thats why I mentioned it specifically.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Lol I believe someone even said it and now it happened

It's like Pakistan FM going to Israel, Saudi as tactic move

Indian involvement in Afghanistan is unacceptable and is/ will be our staunchest red line

We made sure Saudis (Israel was never on the cards) are not involved in Afghanistan but involving India in our backyard is not cool - will never be acceptable for Pakistan, China and will only cause more instability in the region

This move will most certainly lead to tensions - please don't be stupid!

 

[Battlion25]

Ok thanks, but do not worry. Here my wording was actually pretty tame compared to how Iranian activists from competing political camps engage each other. If interested, take a look at the thread I opened about the Keyhan editorialist's criticism of reformists and their anti-Taliban stance:

Funny but also incisive stuff.

great stuff

 

[Dariush the Great]

"Iran should not allow Pakistan to play the role of the U.S. in Afghanistan"?

This implies that there are several factions in Iran that are anti-Taliban. They are pressuring the government and the IRGC to backtrack on their position regarding the Taliban.