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Well obviously the government man
Why they wont allow..? any reasons u suspect..?
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Well obviously the government man
Involve Pakistan and china in the MCA project..
there is a lot of difference between MCA and AMCA, and what we now have is AMCA and not MCA, a concept which has been scrapped for quite sometime now.
someone rightly pointed out to the huge financial assistance that is doled out to israel by the USA and the EU which obliges them to source their military equipment from both the USA and the EU and not from other countries. with other countries they primarily work on certain sub-systems and systems which are not of huge strategic significance.
israel is about to sign a deal for initial 25 f-35 with LM anytime now as per the spokesperson of LM and the first country to do so out of the partner countries with an option of 50 more. the day the funding of f-22 is restarted and the day f-22 was to ever be exported, rest assured it will be to israel. the sourcing of f15s was stopped in favour of f-35 the procurement of which will be fast tracked for them, so clearly there in no "need" on part of israel to look else where.
singapore again looks to source all its military equipment of strategic significance from the USA and to a very less extent from the EU and is a key allay of the USA outside the NATO, highly unlikely that they will be "allowed" to look else where, had it been sub-systems, story would have been a lot different.
the two countries will be involved if need be but that will be purely be for manufacture of sub-systems for which there will be JVs where complete ToT will be involved and if that cant happen then they will be contracted/subcontracted for manufacture of such systems.
there remains a russian angle and it is assumed MiG might be contacted if we were to be in a real need of a partner which has a 5th gen project in a similar weight category but this time the lead partner will be HAL, with manufacturing happening in india unlike what happened in the case of PAKFA (we have had preliminary discussions with the russians and the details of which are under study by HAL). mind you, this is just a proposal and if HAL decides they have to go alone they very well will.
Thanks for the honest openion. At least you think on these lines so ...Good.We need foreign partners not for funding but strengthening our strategic reach even more and to expedite the process which is as we know very slow in our government circles. With countries onboard, our government will be forced to perform better for prestige and image sakes as well as to deliver its committment rather than the pathetic performance it showed during the era of Tejas LCA development and Arjun tank. Even now we don't have enough infrastructure to conduct our own flight tests and have to go to Gromov test centre in Russia for conducting advanced tests while China already has such facilities at home.
Singapore and Israel are high profile countries in terms of defense and therefore getting them as strategic partners and committed customers would only enhance our abilities.
We can always sell this to them in case they want it. If it turns out to be good then you never know they might get it.Guys too much focus only on Israel. I said Israel AND Singapore as security cooperation participants.
Also you forgot to reply to my fact that:
1) Israel was recently refused the F-15 Silent Eagle for their old F-15s
2) Singapore will need a complementary fighter to their new F-15SG when their F-16s will be getting replaced in 10-15 years of time.
We can always sell this to them in case they want it. If it turns out to be good then you never know they might get it.
it doesnt necesarily come through a partnrship. does it?
Jhaji...Building something alone is a thing of past now...Its better to form a JV with a leader in the field or, atleast buy from them rather than trying to develop these same things on our own and spend years on reinventing a wheel..
A JV with Israel is imminent for atleast MAYAWI , with Russia for AAMs.... ..
Guys too much focus only on Israel. I said Israel AND Singapore as security cooperation participants.
Also you forgot to reply to my fact that:
1) Israel was recently refused the F-15 Silent Eagle for their old F-15s
2) Singapore will need a complementary fighter to their new F-15SG when their F-16s will be getting replaced in 10-15 years of time.
The idea is good, but it's not going to happen for the simple reason that AMCA would only come by 2025, but Israel and Singapore can get F35 way earlier and they have good relations to the US, which makes such a team up doubtful.
Also as amit27 said, Israel is very dependent on fundings from the US, not to mention on the pressure of the US weapon industry.
Personally I wouldn't even go for AMCA at all, because it doesn't make sense to have 2 similar 5. gen fighter projects running besides each other
We will have LCAs, MMRCA and even MKIs for decades, adding another fighter is simply not needed, the stealth UCAV project instead would be much better.
Unmanned aircrafts are the future, so we should focus on such a project, instead of just another 5. gen fighter. Stealth design, a derivate of the Kaveri engine possibly, latest A2G weapons and the unmanned controls will be difficult enough for us and more than an ambitious project.