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Separation: Shiite refugees (right side of the blue cloth) participate in Idul Fitri prayers at a mosque near their camp in Sidoarjo, East Java, on Thursday. The Shiite followers are saying their prayers without prayer mats, because they were not allowed to participate in the prayers along with other Muslims. (JP/Indra Harsaputra)Separation: Shiite refugees (right side of the blue cloth) participate in Idul Fitri prayers at a mosque near their camp in Sidoarjo, East Java, on Thursday. The Shiite followers are saying their prayers without prayer mats, because they were not allowed to participate in the prayers along with other Muslims.



Religious Affairs Minister Suryadharma Ali has again come under fire for allegedly supporting the forced conversion of Shia followers to Sunni Islam in a reconciliation program the government claimed was meant to end the conflict between the two Islamic denominations in Madura, East Java.

Human rights activists accused the minister of failing to put aside his personal beliefs in the reconciliation process and demanded that President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono disengage him from the efforts to return the Shia refugees.

“The government should instead involve people like [former vice president] Jusuf Kalla or Catholic priest Franz Magnis Suseno, for example, in the reconciliation process instead of SDA, who is obviously unable to take a distance with his personal religious belief,” Hertasning Ichlas, executive director of Universalia Legal Aid Institute (YLBH Universalia) and an attorney for Sampang Shia community, told The Jakarta Post on Sunday, referring to Surydharma with his initials.

Weeks after the Shiites were evicted from their home villages in Sampang in June this year, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono assigned the Religious Affairs Ministry to lead the reconciliation process in cooperation with the Sunan Ampel State Islamic Institute (IAIN) in Surabaya.

However, Hertasning said that Suryadharma and his fellow United Development Party (PPP) politician, Djan Faridz, who is also the Public Housing Minister, attended meetings where the Shiites were forced to denounce their faith if they wished to safely return to their villages.

Such meetings were also supported by Sampang Regent Fannan Hasib, who was nominated by two Islamic parties, the PPP and the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS), Head of Sampang’s Municipal Political and National Unity Office (Kesbangpol) Rudi Setiadi, local police officials and a number of Sunni clerics.

According to Hertasning, 34 out of around 235 Shiites evicted from Sampang have returned to their homes by Aug. 7 as they finally agreed to sign a pledge of nine points which included willingness to return to “the true teaching of Islam” as well as to condemn of the teachings of Shiite cleric Tajul Muluk, who is currently imprisoned over blasphemy.

Hertasning said that Shiites that refused to sign the agreement suffered intimidation; with some of them losing their land for good while a few others should depart for Jakarta to stay in a safe house.

“The reconciliation process has turned political because the PPP has a great number of supporters in the area. We must immediately do something about it especially as the gubernatorial election is coming soon,” he said.

The forced conversion scandal has raised concerns from several leading figures, including from former vice president Jusuf Kalla and Din Syamsuddin, chairman of the country’s second largest Islamic group, Muhammadiyah.

Kalla, who chairs the Indonesian Mosque Council (DMI) and is also known as a peace broker, said that such a forced conversion was unconstitutional.



“That is not reconciliation. Reconciliation will equally guarantee the rights of conflicting groups. And it is definitely free from imposition of the will [of the majority group],” Kalla told reporters on the sideline of an Idul Fitri open house event at his residence in South Jakarta on Friday.

Meanwhile, Din, who was among Kalla’s guests on that day, emphasized that the process should be free from forced belief, especially if it was led by government officials. “There should have not been any coercion. It is unfair for the government to take sides,” Din said.

Suryadharma has not yet responded to this accusation, but the Religious Affairs Ministry spokesman Zubaidi told the Post on Sunday that the allegation was baseless. “That’s not true. The minister has never done such a thing,” he said.

Home Affairs Minister Gamawan Fauzi denied that the government had forced the Shia adherents to leave their faith. “It was not a forced conversion. We are actually giving them directions so that they could return to their home village.



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Religious Affairs Minister Suryadharma Ali has again come under fire for allegedly supporting the forced conversion of Shia followers to Sunni Islam in a reconciliation program the government claimed was meant to end the conflict between the two Islamic denominations in Madura, East Java.

Why not send them to Iran instead of converting them? :what: I mean they have no origins in there ...

Parody TV.
 
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LoLz. KSA isn't the epicenter of Sunni Islam, while the others claim to be the guardians of Shia Islam. :lol:

Shias have a much older history than Sunnis in Indonesia, Sunni Islam arrived in 16th C, the history of Shia Muslims goes back to the 14th C the first Shia king of Aceh in N Sumatra was Sultan Saiyid Maulana Abdul Azis Syah, a descendant of Imam Jaffar al-Sadiq (Shia’s 6th Imam).

So your claim that Shia has no roots in Indonesia and thus be sent to Iran is baseless as KSA is the bastion of Wahhabi Islam and these trouble makers are Wahhabis.

Indonesians are staunch supporters of Iran and Indonesia supported the UN resolution on Iran, all Iran needs to do is pay a few $$ to convert Sunnis to Shia ..
 
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The Sunnis have always been the originators of Islam in Indonesia. If they weren't then mind telling me why is the Shia community is too small?

Shias have a much older history than Sunnis in Indonesia, Sunni Islam arrived in 16th C, the history of Shia Muslims goes back to the 14th C the first Shia king of Aceh in N Sumatra was as Sultan Saiyid Maulana Abdul Azis Syah, a descendant of Imam Jaffar al-Sadiq (Shia’s 6th Imam).

So your claim that Shia has no roots in Indonesia is baseless and thus be sent to Iran as KSA is the bastion of Wahhabi Islam and these trouble makers are Wahhabis.

LoL, you mad bro?

Indonesians are staunch supporters of Iran and Indonesia supported the UN resolution on Iran, all Iran needs to do is pay a few $$ to convert Sunnis to Shia ..

Oh yeah I can tell from the article than Iran's sphere of influence is upper high :lol:

If Iran pays people to convert, there are people who are bringing Iran to its knees these days :azn:
 
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The Sunnis have always been the originators of Islam in Indonesia. If they weren't then mind telling me why is the Shia community is too small?

Aceh was once a major Shia centre, Shia is a small community, 2 million as it did not vigorously proselytise the local pop. The spread of Islam in the archipelago was a gradual progress.

Wali Songo ( 9 mystics) played a major historic role in the spreading of Sunni Islam and most Indonesians are pseudo Muslims anyway. Its only in the last few years that Wahhabism is catching up with the intellectuals.

If Iran pays people to convert, there are people who are bringing Iran to its knees these days :azn:
who Israelis and Saudis ?? hope you know Persia once had a great empire .

Tabuik (Muharram) in Aceh

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hope you know Persia once had a great empire .

Typical PDF user :lol:

What difference does their empire make to them? Have history helped Greece to be pulled out of its economic misery? :lol: :D :rofl: :omghaha:

Ironically, that empire was wiped out by none other than Omar Ibn Al-Khatab ;)
 
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Ironically, that empire was wiped out by none other than Omar Ibn Al-Khatab ;)

All great empires were wiped out ..... it was a gentle reminder on the power of the Persians and I am sure they will rise from the ashes once again ....
 
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All great empires were wiped out ..... it was a gentle reminder on the power of the Persians and I am sure they will rise from the ashes once again ....

No thanks, we don't need a gentle reminder.

LoL, haven't you seen the resolutions being proposed against Iran in the UN recently.
 
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I think this thread is in wrong forum section, Indonesia geographically located in South East Asia, not South Asia region. So i suggest to close the thread and make a new one in Far East and ASEAN sub section forum discussions.
 
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