Indonesia Maritime defence and security issue

[pr1v4t33r]

Indonesians love to brag how they are the strongest in SEA especially in world shooting competition. The sad part is some Indonesians and other countries like Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand claim Vietnam has a stronger military.

But there's nothing to be sad about. People can claim this and that, why we bother. Our soldiers are professional and well trained, we proved this on AARM, AASAM, BISAM, where VN rank low among the ASEAN elite soldiers. Just accept it, VN armed forces are obsolete and old, so stop holding on the shadow of a past 'glories'.

Furthermore, our soldiers can help safeguard our ocean effectively. While yours can only moan when CN sink VN vessels inside your own territory. What a joke.

Victorious on the Sea

 

[Nike]

Indonesia sinks more than 100 foreign fishing boats
Jumat, 30 Oktober 2015 19:51 WIB | 321 Views

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - In a bid to demonstrate its commitment to fighting fish poaching, Indonesia has sunk 101 foreign fishing boats for conducting illegal operations in its maritime territory until October.

"As many as 101 boats have been sunk," Asep Burhanuddin, the director general of fishery resource monitoring of the Ministry of Fisheries and Marine Resources, stated here on Friday.

The boats include 34 Philippine-flagged boats, 33 Vietnamese, 21 Thai, and six Malaysian.

Of the sunk boats, one each was from Indonesia and China, while two were from Papua New Guinea.

"Tomorrow (Oct. 31), six more boats would be sunk, and all of them are from neighboring countries," he pointed out.

The People Coalition for Fishery Justice (Kiara) has urged President Joko Widodos government to not only entirely focus on the poaching problem but should prioritize improving the welfare of the coastal communities.

"President Widodo and his cabinet must not be fixated on eradicating IUU fishing," Kiaras secretary general, Abdul Hakim, remarked on Tuesday.

He said that eradicating fish poaching was only a small part of the states duties to improve the welfare of the coastal communities.

He said the most important aspect is to improve the welfare of the people by ensuring ease of mobility and affordable and quality staple items in coastal areas and isolated islands.

Hence, he emphasized that the government should, in the short term, focus on sea resource management, including fish and salt management, from the upstream to downstream areas.(*)

Indonesia sinks more than 100 foreign fishing boats - ANTARA News

 

[VALKRYIE]

But there's nothing to be sad about. People can claim this and that, why we bother. Our soldiers are professional and well trained, we proved this on AARM, AASAM, BISAM, where VN rank low among the ASEAN elite soldiers.

Furthermore, our soldiers can help safeguard our ocean effectively. While yours can only moan when CN sink VN vessels inside your own territory. What a joke.

Why are you guys not blowing up poor Chinese fishermen boats. Scared or something

Small countries even beat Indonesia.

 

[Nike]

Why are you guys not blowing up poor Chinese fishermen boats. Scared or something


Small countries even beat Indonesia.

hell, where is your rethoric when we blowing up your fishing vessels without punity?

that's happen every day here

Viet is been known here for talking big and without action

bunch of pussy and sissy girls

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Why are you guys not blowing up poor Chinese fishermen boats. Scared or something. Small countries even beat Indonesia.

In a matter of fact, we did sink large CN vessels. haa... get your fact right.
Of course, we let them win. We are big, we are giant, Indonesia need to exercise restrain to win all the time

hell, where is your rethoric when we blowing up your fishing vessels without punity? that's happen every day here. Viet is been known here for talking big and without action. bunch of pussy and sissy girls

1 year ago, when we blow up the first 3 VN fishing vessels, they still doubt our intention and put brave rethoric to challenge us. Now, after we sank and blow up more than 100 vessels, they have lost their will to fight. Haa....

 

[Nike]

In a matter of fact, we did sink large CN vessels. haa... get your fact right.
Of course, we let them win. We are big, we are giant, Indonesia need to exercise restrain to win all the time



1 year ago, when we blow up the first 3 VN fishing vessels, they still doubt our intention and put brave rethoric to challenge us, now, after we sank and blow up more than 100 vessels, they have lost their will to fight. Haa....

hell we are the only country in ASEAN who put the end of Commies resistance with so much blood spilled

 

[nufix]

Why are you guys not blowing up poor Chinese fishermen boats. Scared or something

Small countries even beat Indonesia.

lol this is from sea games, didn't we talk about military competition?

Typical viets, when they lost arguments they bring something irrelevant

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Today (31/10/2015), Another 6 Illegal VN Fishing Vessels Blown Up at Batam sea, Riau islands.

1. BV 95228 TS, 35 GT, seized on 1 August 2015
2. BV 95632 TS, 36 GT, seized on 1 August 2015.
3. BV 95472 TS, 32 GT, seized on 1 August 2015
4. BV 75169 TS, 32 GT, seized on 1 August 2015
5. BV 95609 TS, 38 GT, seized on 1 August 2015
6. BV 95038 TS, 35 GT, seized on 1 August 2015

Enam kapal Vietnam ditenggelamkan - ANTARA News
KKP Tenggelamkan 6 Kapal Vietnam | Nasional | Beritasatu.com

 

[nufix]

No wonder most of the ships belong to VN, they are mentally thieves from top to the bottom, even the viets who are abroad.

 

[MarveL]

Indonesia has sunk 106 boats fishing illegally in the past year: Ministry

An Indonesian Navy patrol ship sails near a fishing boat.PHOTO: EPA

JAKARTA (JAKARTA POST/ASIA NEWS NETWORK) - In her first year of leadership, Marine Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti has ordered the sinking of 106 foreign boats that were fishing illegally in Indonesian waters.

Ms Susi said on Friday (Oct 30) that the sinking of the illegal boats is proof that the government is serious about eradicating illegal fishing and boosting the country's sea security.

Ms Susi admitted that lack of law enforcement in fisheries was one of Indonesia's problems for investors, adding that she was committed to cracking down on illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing (IUUF).

"IUUF is a global crime, not merely illegal fishing but also slavery, human trafficking, animal smuggling and drugs," she said.

Marine Affairs and Fisheries director-general of Marine and Fisheries Resources Asep Burhanuddin said the ministry would sink six more boats tomorrow.

"The sea and air police along with the Navy have sunk more than a hundred boats in the first year," Mr Asep said in a presentation at the KKP office in Jakarta.

In the presentation that was attended by the minister, Mr Asep said that the minister planned to tighten punishments for illegal fishing.

Mr Asep requested the minister equip the supervisor boat with weapons to protect Indonesian marine resources.

"The important thing is that we save our marine resources," he added.

The Marine Affairs and Fisheries DirectorateGeneral's data shows that the illegal fishing boats that were sunk in the first year of Ms Susi's leadership were from the Philippines (34), Vietnam (33), Thailand (21), Malaysia (6), Papua New Guinea (2) and China (1).

Indonesia has sunk 106 boats fishing illegally in the past year: Ministry, SE Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

 

[VALKRYIE]

No wonder most of the ships belong to VN, they are mentally thieves from top to the bottom, even the viets who are abroad.

Thats the most funniest thing I ever heard. Indonesians are known to be pirates in Vietnam. Its better to be a fisherman than a pirate.

'Pirates' held by Vietnam speak Indonesian: State media - Channel NewsAsia

hell, where is your rethoric when we blowing up your fishing vessels without punity?

that's happen every day here

Viet is been known here for talking big and without action

bunch of pussy and sissy girls

Your country must be proud for destroying defenceless fishing boats and fishermen livelihood.

lol this is from sea games, didn't we talk about military competition?

Typical viets, when they lost arguments they bring something irrelevant

Its still a competition unless you want to compare military hardware.

Nothing personal but my real issue is when Indonesian members here think that their country the leader and the best in SEA....

 

[MarveL]

Please don't feed the troll

 

[pr1v4t33r]

No trolling here

We have the largest naval fleet in SEA, but our coast guard still in infancy stage, this is a newly formed agency. What the infographic show is Coast Guard fleet. But don't worry, up to 2019, we are gonna add hundreds more to strengthen our coast guard fleet. Guaranteed.

We don't feel proud to destroy our neighbor's fishing vessles, no. But we are glad that our government can act consistently and effectively to safeguard our ocean strategic resources. If that means we have to act a little bit tough and viewed less friendly, so be it. We will persue policy that will safeguard and satisfy our national interest first.

Nothing personal, but that's indeed your (@VALKRYIE) problem. What indonesian member think or even the world in general about our geopolitical position in SEA region is an open book, you can read it yourself everywhere. Even Obama and Mr. Dung would agree.

 

[Indos]

Please don't feed the troll

Strong person is calm in nature

 

[nufix]

Thats the most funniest thing I ever heard. Indonesians are known to be pirates in Vietnam. Its better to be a fisherman than a pirate.

'Pirates' held by Vietnam speak Indonesian: State media - Channel NewsAsia




Your country must be real proud for destroying defenceless fishing boats and fishermen livelihood.



Its still a competition unless you want to compare military hardware.

Nothing personal but my real issue is when Indonesian members here think that their country the leader and the best in SEA....

Lol if you want to bring up something (even if it is irrelevant because maritime law enforcers are not military), do some research first. Indonesia Maritime Law Enforcement is divided into three section POLAIR, KPLP, and BAKORKAMLA. There is not yet integrated maritime law enforcer. The new BAKAMLA is still embryo of what will become the pilot project of an indonesian integrated maritime law and it will consist of the old three institutions, BAKAMLA itself was just formed 2 years ago, and ofcorse it only has small number of ships.

POLAIR alone has a fleet of more than 70 ships
KPLP alone has a fleet of more than 300 ships and is planning on adding 100 more
Ditjen Hubla Akan Bangun 100 Kapal KPLP Hingga 2019

An integrated indonesian maritime law enforcement unit will have more than 370 ships, and more than 450 in 2019.


How do you think we keep catching Viet thieves all days without ships?