"India's 'surgical strikes' in Kashmir: Truth or illusion?"

[Great Janjua]

said just another pisspr guy



BBC actually destroyed your ISPR lies.
They proved India crossed the LoC and slapped ISPR hard on the face who denied it.

Are masturbating over BBC? Go back to the call centre thick minded person mate

 

[Photon]

Surgical strikes, my foot.....even Musharaf as an army chief did a better job than these weekend warriors.

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Weeks before hostilities erupted between Indian and Pakistani troops in the Kargil sector in 1999, Gen Pervez Musharraf crossed the Line of Control in a helicopter and spent a night at a location 11 km inside Indian territory, a former aide to the military ruler has said.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-army-chiefs-courage/articleshow/18290778.cms

Wait for it, slowly and steadily the truth is coming out, rest of it will be out too.

If Pakistan claims were to be believed, there was only cross border firing, and Indian troops did cross the LOC.

But it has been proved, Indian forces did indeed cross the loc, corroborating parts of Indian version of events. Rest of the Indian story, will too come out to be true.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

THEY SAY THEY DID 2 HOURS OPERATION WITHOUT BEING SEEN:
The Pakistanis did not take long to get their act together and fired back from the remaining bunkers, pushing the Indian guns back from the ridges overlooking the valley.

AT OTHER PLACES THEY FACED SIMILAR HUMILIATION:
"The Pakistani fire sent them scurrying back to their bunkers," he said.

Full BS. PA never said these. Our mission was to make u pay. With minimal casualties from our side. Our task was not to invade Ur posts or peaks but to punish and set the future course of action to terrorism.

I will tell you another very interesting news only Real veterans from both sides knew. All these places picked by IA were the due. These are border posts right opposite to Indian Position which suffered IA BSF casualties in the past. Even though main target was terrorists, All dues were paid with interest.

PA will never accept any of these. How can they? And BBC wonder why they don't see any evidence of terrorists casualties? They expected full blue print of launch pads?

From this article it's clear each post and buildings were targeted from close range at same time with precise aiming. From mosque - famous hideouts for terrorists across the world. To unnamed buildings.

End of the day IA went in and did serious damage to these whole Proxy war. If you think Pakistan Army did the same in revenge? U are welcome to belive it

 

[Great Janjua]

There was no surgical strike but moral boosting bullshit mate

 

[Areesh]

BBC burned ISPRs undies:
1)Confirmed India crossed LoC
2)Destroyed posts & a mosque
3)Remained in pakistani territory for 3+ hours.

Lets debunk your delusions one by one.

1 BBC confirmed a few hundred meter incursion in just 1 or 2 sectors but rejected surgical strike claims of India.
2 Small posts and a small mosque. Some achievement for a military as big as big as india

Anyways we have avenged all our destroyed and damaged posts.

3 Firing was on for 3+ hours. Even Pakistan accepted that. Or else we have spent weeks in IOK territory undetected. Not a biggie. Been there. Done that and that too far better.

 

[notorious_eagle]

BBC actually destroyed your ISPR lies.

Indeed. BBC just confirmed that Indian soldiers crossed the LOC 4km, attacked terrorist launch pads, killed 40 terrorists and than safely managed to trekk back in Pakistan.

Looks like you need some lessons in the comprehension of the English language.

They proved India crossed the LoC and slapped ISPR hard on the face who denied it.

No, they proved that Indian infiltration was beaten back. PA's Defences worked, Indian infiltration was caught and immediately engaged. I can understand that the Indian ego has been severely hurt but its time you guys accept the truth. In some of the other Sister Western Military Forums they are laughing at Indian claims.

Lets debunk your delusions one by one.

1 BBC confirmed a few hundred meter incursion in just 1 or 2 sectors but rejected surgical strike claims of India.
2 Small posts and a small mosque. Some achievement for a military as big as big as india

Anyways we have avenged all our destroyed and damaged posts.

3 Firing was on for 3+ hours. Even Pakistan accepted that. Or else we have spent weeks in IOK territory undetected. Not a biggie. Been there. Done that and that too far better.

I think its time we stop being too harsh on our friends here. Their giant egos have been hurt by a country 1/10th their size. Its like saying Canada embarrassed the US militarily.

 

[Areesh]

Full BS. PA never said these. Our mission was to make u pay. With minimal casualties from our side. Our task was not to invade Ur posts or peaks but to punish and set the future course of action to terrorism.

And you failed in your mission. We lost just 2 soldiers whose death has been avenged. 1 of you boy is also caught alive.

I will tell you another very interesting news only Real veterans from both sides knew. All these places picked by IA were the due. These are border posts right opposite to Indian Position which suffered IA BSF casualties in the past. Even though main target was terrorists, All dues were paid with interest.

Interest?? Like getting your boy caught alive??

Is this "interest" in Indian military??

will never accept any of these. How can they? And BBC wonder why they don't see any evidence of terrorists casualties? They expected full blue print of launch pads

BBC had freedom to investigate whatever they want to. They found no proof of your false claims.

From this article it's clear each post and buildings were targeted from close range at same time with precise aiming. From mosque - famous hideouts for terrorists across the world. To unnamed buildings.

So mosques are terror hideouts for you??

Keep your sanghi in control buddy.

End of the day IA went in and did serious damage to these whole Proxy war. If you think Pakistan Army did the same in revenge? U are welcome to belive it [/QUJOTE]

WE believe in facts unlike you who worship Indian military like fools.

 

[Great Janjua]

looks like you got mad.

All you do is spit bullshit at people and don't get mad my call centre brother

 

[4GTejasBVR]

THEY SAY THEY DID 2 HOURS OPERATION WITHOUT BEING SEEN:
The Pakistanis did not take long to get their act together and fired back from the remaining bunkers, pushing the Indian guns back from the ridges overlooking the valley.

AT OTHER PLACES THEY FACED SIMILAR HUMILIATION:
"The Pakistani fire sent them scurrying back to their bunkers," he said.

Full BS. PA never said these. Our mission was to make u pay. With minimal casualties from our side. Our task was not to invade Ur posts or peaks but to punish and set the future course of action to terrorism.

I will tell you another very interesting news only Real veterans from both sides knew. All these places picked by IA were the due. These are border posts right opposite to Indian Position which suffered IA BSF casualties in the past. Even though main target was terrorists, All dues were paid with interest.

PA will never accept any of these. How can they? And BBC wonder why they don't see any evidence of terrorists casualties? They expected full blue print of launch pads?

From this article it's clear each post and buildings were targeted from close range at same time with precise aiming. From mosque - famous hideouts for terrorists across the world. To unnamed buildings.

End of the day IA went in and did serious damage to these whole Proxy war. If you think Pakistan Army did the same in revenge? U are welcome to belive it

Here is an episode of Mahaaz with Wajahat Khan from LOC, 5 days before the incident, one has to look at the terrain and the number of armed bunkers there. Crossing LOC would be a suicide mission, if Indians did try to cross it , it reflects lack of training and professionalism, no wonder they were pushed back. LOC, with its minefields and bunkers armed to teeth face to face on mountains, is impregnable. Pakistan didn't hide the losses and official sources accepted 2 soldiers were martyred and Indians suffered in retaliatory fire. How much it is upto the Indians to tell, yet they didn't again reflecting on their tendency to brainwash their public. BTW in no way cross border fire or an attempt to cross LOC under the cover of it is considered Surgical strike since no aerial platform was involved. If this attempt to cross happened one thing is clear, indians lied about aircraft/helecopters being used, they lied about targets i.e militant camps and the casualties, they lied about paracommandoes being involved, they sent normal sepoys just as fodder infront of Pakistani bunkers so domestic public opinion could be placated through an imaginary surgical strike, the sepoy captured according to Indians is evidence of that.

Which Indian Army spoke person said that helicopters were used or troops wr air dropped? It was people's and veteran's own version of these possibilities. Of course Helicopters were used. But not inside LoC. Helicopters were on regular shorties for the past few days, Airforce took regular shorties as part of excersise near Pakistan borders. And of reality helicopters ever used on certain point to air dropping Indian troops near our own borders and possibly to not to exhaust them or get noted by there movements.

I agree with you that these borders are highly fortified and I would be a suicide mission. True. But no mission is impossible. With requiried training, intelligence, deviation tactics it can be done and have been done. It will so wrong in Ur part if you think Indian Special forces are weak and waste but PA is well trained.

Para commandos involved were mostly from same regiments which suffered in URI and previous attacks. This the way IA use to do. They send these same regiments best of bests to avenge their lives of their buddies.

 

[Areesh]

1)BBC confirmed India crossed more than one kilometre:

Make it more than 1 kilometer for your satisfaction. Still you were checked and beaten back. You achieved nothing.

2)The fact that we opened fire on your posts from inside your territory goes to show that pathetic nature of your army.

Same has happened hundreds of time with your army. Grow up kid.

3)Our objective was to harass your firces not gain territory unlike kargil where you wanted to gain territory but failed pathetically.

Well clearly our military is not harassed since this happening on LOC right now.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...killed-in-pakistan-firing-on-loc-1528582.html

You failed kid.

 

[Photon]

There was no surgical strike but moral boosting bullshit mate

You can call it, what ever you want, surgical strikes, moral booster, or Indian drama.

At least this much has been corroborated by Independent sources.

India troops went into Pakistani territory, killed a few Pakistanis and came back without a scratch, while Pakistan kept claiming "Nothing happened "

I am not claiming it is as a big achievement or has never been done before by either of the sides, but it proves that Pakistani army has been lying to you people, since the beginning.

Secondly, the uncorroborated part of the Indian story... killing of militants at their launch pads, is also probably true.
Why ? Because the fist part came out to be true, despite vehement Pakistani denials.

 

[Areesh]

BBC just caught ispr pants Down for their lies that there was no loc crossing.
And also don't create western forums out of wet dreams.

Why you keep mentioning pants?? You guys are famous for Dhoti.

Say dhotis are pulled down. Like DGMO Ranbir Singh was caught with dhoti down.

 

[Windjammer]

Wait for it, slowly and steadily the truth is coming out, rest of it will be out too.

If Pakistan claims were to be believed, there was only cross border firing, and Indian troops did cross the LOC.

But it has been proved, Indian forces did indeed cross the loc, corroborating parts of Indian version of events. Rest of the Indian story, will too come out to be true.

BBC are just assuming mostly by what has been published in the media.....you should listen to what your own MPs and MLAs are saying.

Every Indian wants surgical strikes but not fake ones: Cong leader Sanjay Nirupam doubts Modi govt and Indian Army

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...upam-doubts-modi-govt-and-indian-army-2261265


Army recording fake exercises as evidence for Azad Kashmir surgical strikes: J&K MLA Sheikh Abdul Rashid

http://www.firstpost.com/india/army...rikes-jk-mla-sheikh-abdul-rashid-3036172.html

 

[Great Janjua]

you guys are famous for salwar kameez, so ispr got caught with their Kameez down



Feel sorry for the spanking you received at madrassa today.
have some camel piss instead.

You guys are famous for not wearing any clothes so cannot really say anything to you mate

 

[Photon]

BBC are just assuming mostly by what has been published in the media.....you should listen to what your own MPs and MLAs are saying.

Discrediting a source like BBC or diverting the topic will not help you here.

Do you agree , at least this much has been proved, that India forces conducted a cross border raid into Pakistan , as they claimed since the beginning ?

And Pakistani claims of "It was just a routine cross border firing" has been proven to be false.