India’s attitude points to desire for war: Sartaj Aziz

[anilindia]

Sartaz please solve your petrol crisis first. Heared that ksa refuse to help pak.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

slaves cant be rulers if you put honey on a shit it will remain as a shit so plz slaves play with amazaon jungle warriors your slave mate dont try to intimidate your past rulers

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better take some medicine dear..
get well soon

 

[SrNair]

You need to understand the concept of dhimmitude.
On topic - Pakistan is always prepared for war with India. That is the reason for its existence.
Only problem is that, that readiness is doing them no good.

Only cause the draining of their own vital resources for their own people.A blessing in disguise for us.

 

[MilSpec]

yes....the big boys who took 3 days to secure a city from a few lightly armed unruly kids while the world watched in amazement and awe

No one denies that pakistan won significant battles in 65, and the performance on battalion level was stellar. But you were set for failure right from the conception of the grand slam and gibraltor, which were utter failures as admitted by your military leaders.

 

[illusion8]

One can construe it as a micro intensive offense. If Mr.Saraj Aziz gets so distressed by it then it proves the serious vulnerability of the Pakistani state. India otoh has put up with much higher degree of tactical offense and still does - mainly from China's end.

Mr. Aziz, instead of lamenting, be ready to take some to your chin when you love to dish it out to all your neighbors.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Now Lets see what ACM Nur Khan Says, he was the ACM during the brilliant operation of PAF during 1965

This in short is Nur Khan’s version of 1965 war, which he calls an unnecessary war and says that President Ayub for whom he has the greatest regard should have held his senior generals accountable for the debacle and himself resigned.

This would have held the hands of the adventurers who followed Gen Ayub. Since the 1965 war was based on a big lie and was presented to the nation a great victory, the Army came to believe its own fiction and has used since, Ayub as its role model and therefore has continued to fight unwanted wars — the 1971 war and the Kargil fiasco in 1999, he said.

In each of the subsequent wars we have committed the same mistakes that we committed in 1965.

Air Marshal Khan demanded that a truth commission formed to find out why we failed in all our military adventures. It is not punishment of the failed leadership that should be the aim of the commission but sifting of facts from fiction and laying bare the follies and foibles of the irresponsible leaders in matters with grave implications for the nation. It should also point out the irregularities committed in training and promotions in the defence forces in the past so that it is not repeated in future


Nur Khan reminisces ’65 war - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

This is from your own Dawn source, hopefully you won't term this one as a liar too..


no need to get banned, stay and contribute.

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they will say its he is RAW agent or indian media propogenda or dawn is indian agent...

 

[Winchester]

This statement by Sartaj Aziz should be a wake-up call to all Aman ka Tamasha fans out there
Just shows that it is imperative we take care of this Taliban nonsense as soon as possible to face up to external threats
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About that first post by Horus
United States ended WW2 by launching two mass casualty attacks
Also Hamburg and then later Dresden were bombed by the allies so heavily that they created firestorms

 

[Shot-Caller]

It is called advantage of hindsight. Read the sources I have presented, they have detailed outlay of operation gibraltar and grand slam, and reasons for it's failure.

All of the sources I have quoted are pakistani ex military leaders. Read with objectivity rather than blindly towing the national narrative. ACM Asghar Khan and ACM Nur Khan were visionaries of your PAF, Brig (Retd) Saeed Ismat was in the tactical arena during combat, additionally you can also read what Col. S.G Mehdi, the SSG commander at that time had to say. Deduce your self the realities of 1965 before singing the same tune as other blind stalwarts here on the forum.

Some of Col. S.G Mehdi wisdom.
1965 War — Some Harsh Realities | Ehtisham Siddiqui

You keep doing the same thing again and again. Do you have a comprehension problem? Quoting ex army personnel whose names we don't even know can never prove anything. If you really want a name of a Pakistan war hero of 1965 its MM alam. Now go read some articles about him.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

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they will say its he is RAW agent or indian media propogenda or dawn is indian agent...

RAW agents dont live comfortable, private lives in Pakistan.....they end up 6 feet under or in cages

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

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vote..
your guy bloacking national capital becuase you guys vote is stolen or you guys never know how to vote
am i wrong?
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international hindu terrorist
prove it..
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Hafiz Muhammad Saeed
The United Nations declared Jama'at-ud-Da'wah a terrorist organisation in December 2008 and Hafiz Saeed a terrorist as its leader.
enough said

just because that hindu terrorist is now ur PM and because of that and international rules cant be label as terrorist doesnt mean that he is free from his dirty extremism and terrorism against muslims
US Court Summons PM Narendra Modi in Gujarat Riots Case

 

[Menace2Society]

Indians are very stupid not to make peace. Pakistan has tried for 4 years and kept its mouth shut every time India did something off hand and rude.

Now enough of this aman ka tamasha and lets take realities. They never desired peace in the first place. Sadistic in nature which explains rape pandemic, these Indians seek pleasure from inflicting pain. Truly disgusting creatures.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Another retired fellow. Whatever they say about it now doesn't matter. Take a look at this its during the battle.

Doesn't look like the side that's getting the beating.


I'm not saying they are liars I'm saying why is it that they all find out the army was making wrong decisions after getting retired. While they don't have a single issue while they enjoy high ranks. Look at this one he was stung by the retirement anxiety pretty soon after retirement.

Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him: Athar Abbas - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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so you guys till they serive in force are bravo ethical and truthworthy
after retremnt they become not // irrelevant who dont toe offical line ?

 

[SrNair]

We were ready for war in 2008 and your IAF pilots know very well how close they were to getting obliterated in the sky. We were ready for war in 2002 when your forces mobilized and you suffered nearly 1,000 casualties during mobilization as well as pitched battles with the PA (Zero casualties on our side).

I sometimes pray your forces WILL mis-behave so that we can show you what being prepared really means. Realities have changed.

Oh yes realities are soo changed .We heard the same rhetoric in last 4 war .Except that imaginary victory in your own nation,According to the World the Pakistan is cut down in to half.
Yes Ground realitieswere always changed but we will determine ground realities like always.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Indians are very stupid not to make peace. Pakistan has tried for 4 years and kept its mouth shut every time India did something off hand and rude.

Now enough of this aman ka tamasha and lets take realities. They never desired peace in the first place. Sadistic in nature which explains rape pandemic, these Indians seek pleasure from inflicting pain. Truly disgusting creatures.

they cant inflict pain on Pakistan; nothing existential in nature. Conventional and non-conventional methods will keep them in check. it's govt. mis-management/corruption and politics that truly hurts the country

 

[pursuit of happiness]

just because that hindu terrorist is now ur PM and because of that and international rules cant be label as terrorist doesnt mean that he is free from his dirty extremism and terrorism against muslims
US Court Summons PM Narendra Modi in Gujarat Riots Case

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Dear .. read jurisprudence.. the rule of law..
summoning does not mean guilty...