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Surface-to-air Trishul missile system was scrapped last year. It remained at trial stage for 23 years.

Main battle tank Arjun has been undergoing trials for the past 16 years. The Russian T-90 is still the mainstay of the armoured corps.

Light combat aircraft Tejas is still at trial stage after 23 years. The date of completion for its engine has been revised from 1996 to 2009.

In March, a parliamentary standing committee on defence recommended a complete review of the structure and functioning of the DRDO.
http://hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?id=15b77d03-5681-44e5-abef-cc9265d37d69&
 
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In Indian term or to boost the morale of the Indian defense industry. It is OK to say failure a success.
 
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Imgine 33,000 DRDO employees are getting paid for failure only. If they had successs.......
 
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"I haven't failed, I just found 100,000 ways that don't work."- Albert Einstein Quote

Basically DRDO is Albert Einstein. ;)
 
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In Indian term or to boost the morale of the Indian defense industry. It is OK to say failure a success.

Ohh C'mon Webby!! You are the last person I would've expected to get into this mud-slinging. There isn't shortage of stories to boost morale. Agni - III success is enough to get going. top it with PSLV C8 success & we have a lovely morale-boosting desert ready.
 
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Ohh C'mon Webby!! You are the last person I would've expected to get into this mud-slinging. There isn't shortage of stories to boost morale. Agni - III success is enough to get going. top it with PSLV C8 success & we have a lovely morale-boosting desert ready.

My congratulations towards DRDO. Currenly, i am enjoying the quote affiliation with DRDO, and probably many country mates of mine will enjoy too. :tup:
 
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Guys let's put it into context. I think the problem is that funding for DRDO scientists was poor hence most of the scientist would leave for better paying jobs in other sectors. However it must also be put into context with a industry like the United states and their development programs. They ruthlessly cut any costly unsuccessful programs whilst allowing enough time for research that is then useful for progress if anything is continued at a later point.
 
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Pls dont brag about scientists getting paid for failures. They get paid pennys compared to their competitors or the pvt sectors.

With regards to failures, well as Einstein said so and einstein is no fool. Mistakes do tech you something.
 
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It is good that they have done this revamp however I have pasted a article for our dear Haider chacha, which appeared in "the week", you should read it if you havent.

What DRDO desperately needs is pay hike, and most importantly better project management between Armed forces and DRDO which Navy has been doing with great success for past decade.\\

But I want to correct "something" , I feel the urge to dont know why?

Light combat aircraft Tejas is still at trial stage after 23 years. The date of completion for its engine has been revised from 1996 to 2009.

Air Marshall Wollen Writes,

In the late eighties India's aircraft Industry was not as advanced as Sweden's; and yet India follows a more arduous design/development route for its LCA, compared to Sweden for its JAS-39 Gripen. The Gripen embodied a far higher percentage of foreign, off-the-shelf technology, including its RM-12 engine (improved GE F404). France (Dassault Aviation) built and exhaustively flew a demonstrator aircraft (Rafale-A) before embarking on construction of Rafale prototypes. Over 2,000 flights were completed by September 1994 when first Flight of a production Rafale was still 20 months away. At that point of time, Dassault Aviation had built or flown 93 prototypes, of which at least fifteen went into production Sixteen years elapsed from ‘first-metal-cut' of the Rafale demonstrator to entry into service. Current plans for the LCA is ten years. And what of India's past record? Just a hand-ful of trainer aircraft designed and productionised. The story is similar for the Typhoon (earlier Eurofighter 2000). It was seventeen years from 'first-metal-cut' (EAP) to squadron entry in 2000. One more timeframe needs to be noted. It took Gripen six and a half years from first flight (prototype) to entry into squadron. For the LCA, four and a half years is the target! The quantum of test flying hours required to attain Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) is about 2000 hours; an impossible task in four and a half years. Concurrent production will shorten service entry time, but this will not enable the present target to be reached.

The LCA remains a high-risk project. All too often glitches occur in development of a fly-by-wire FCS. The Typhoon is an example; this, despite vast experimental work for over a decade by leading aircraft manufacturers in the UK and Germany (Jaguar, F-104, EAP). Engine development is the most complex of all activities. There are sure to be problems during flight development of the Kaveri, GTRE's first engine. Teething problems after service entry will occur; and major reliability improvements will be required in the first decade of its exploitation. Engines of the Russian fleet of fighters operated by the IAF (MiG-21 BIS, MiG-23BN/27M MiG-29) have this in-service history. Proceeding from this, four points emerge:

(a) India has its best designers, engineers, scientists, academicians working on/contributing to the project. In the main, they are devoted and tireless in their efforts to success-fully complete the project. They need support (not blind sup-port) of the polity, defence services and bureaucrats. Public support will follow, provided there is honest transparency;
(b) Costs of the project will escalate. (checks and balance are necessary, but let there be no inordinate delays, as have occurred in the past;
(c) The future of the aircraft industry, military and civil, depends on success of the LCA (and ALH, Saras, HJT-36) project; and,
(d) It is unlikely that the LCA will attain initial operational clearance (IOC) before 2010 When it is achieved, it will be an industrial success of magnificent proportion, and is sure to receive the acclaim it deserves.
 
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All this is not to mention DRDO's IMMENSE contribution to our Navy and strategic missiles arsenal.

Trishul is scrapped. DRDO now has gone with MBDA to develop LLQRM's,called Maitri.

Their sonars were so good, IN replaced foreign ones with the Indian ones.
 
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