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India vs China: With $21 Trillion, China Will Change the World

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So what's the big deal if China is ahead today. China started opening up its economy some 14 years before India. Moreover people are still asking for India to carry out more reforms which clearly shows that India hasn't fully liberalized YET. Not to mention their different political systems and bureaucracy. Obviously India will be behind today.
Boths global importance is measured not by their present clout but what people largely expect them to be in the future. Today not many focus on India, but how many focused on China say 10 years ago, when its economy was of similar size as India today? Unless you believe that Indians are some inherently weaker race, then there shouldn't be much problem hyphenating India and China. By 'you', I don't mean @RisingShiningSuperpower and all the official trolls of this forum but others.
 
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Yes yes Behold the almighty superpower in robotic technology they are going to surpass USA now. Yeahhhhhh way to go dog eating technology now even USA is nothing in front of china now USA is going to shiver. Behold the almighty robotic and dog eating technology. Who says China haven't surpassed USA, it has. Now Behold the almighty superpower of the world India is shivering now.
US like to say 'china always steal technology from US', what?????? what do CIA and FBI think about these words? Does it mean that U.S. Information Systems is incompetent.:rofl::rofl::rofl: they are only good at bugging their own people and PRISM is a joke :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
China's Net National Wealth: $21.4 TRILLION
India's Net National Wealth: $3.6 TRILLION

National wealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6 to 1 ratio :lol:

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China's External Financial Assets: €10.5 TRILLION
India's External Financial Assets: €1 TRILLION

List of sovereign states by external assets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10 to 1 ratio :lol:

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China's Total Trade: $4.4 TRILLION
India's Total Trade: $0.85 TRILLION

International trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5 to 1 ratio :lol:

Congrats!!!!

With so much of national wealth, You can increase the consumption of gutter oil and dogs. You may sell human organs to become more wealthy.
 
Congrats!!!!

With so much of national wealth, You can increase the consumption of gutter oil and dogs. You may sell human organs to become more wealthy.
It's hard for me to understand why indian pigs like raping their mothers and daughters. Does raping can help them increase their wealth and GDP?:chilli::chilli::chilli:
 
It's hard for me to understand why indian pigs like raping their mothers and daughters. Does raping can help them increase their wealth and GDP?:chilli::chilli::chilli:

It is chinese famous for rape where 1 out of 10 is a gang rapist and 1 out of 4 is a gang rapist.
 
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:omghaha::omghaha:Yes that's why you steal their technology because their technology is incompetent. Oh sorry how can i forget the most powerful technology of China. Damn China is on the sky now they are going finish USA way to go china i hope you don't Nuke USA because that would be disastrous.
NoNoNo, God Nigger bless America. Damn China will never beat U.S. because God Nigger will help America lead the world for another 100 years. People on the planet are all scared, Chinese people has already been quail:laughcry::laughcry::laughcry::laughcry:
 
India cannot afford to be left behind. Modi-ji must direct all relevant departments and ministers to compete against China head to head. India should invest at least $40 Trillion around the world to curb Chinese influence. I have no doubt that Modi-ji's brilliant leadership will transform India into a superpower by 2020!


With $21 Trillion, China’s Savers Are Set to Change the World - Bloomberg Business

Few events will be as significant for the world in the next 15 years as China opening its capital borders, a shift that economists and regulators across the world are now starting to grapple with.

With China’s leadership aiming to scale back the role of investment in the domestic economy, the nation’s surfeit of savings -- deposits currently stand at $21 trillion -- will increasingly need to be deployed overseas. That’s also becoming easier, as Premier Li Keqiang relaxes capital-flow regulations.

The consequences ultimately could rival the transformation wrought by the Communist nation’s fusion with the global trading system, capped by its 2001 World Trade Organization entry. That stage saw goods made cheaper across the world, boosting the purchasing power of low-income families at the cost of hollowed-out industries.

Some changes are easy to envision: watch out for Mao Zedong’s visage on banknotes as the yuan makes its way into more corners of the globe. China’s giant banks will increasingly dot New York, London and Tokyo skylines, joining U.S., European and Japanese names. Property prices from California to Sydney to Southeast Asia already have seen the influence of Chinese buying.

Other shifts are tougher to gauge. International investors including pension funds, which have had limited entry to China to date, will pour in, clouding how big a net money exporter China will be. Deutsche Bank AG is among those foreseeing mass net outflows, which could go to fund large-scale infrastructure, or stoke asset prices by depressing long-term borrowing costs.

‘Historic Proportions’
“This era will be marked by China shifting from a large net importer of capital to one of the world’s largest exporters of capital,” Charles Li, chief executive officer of Hong Kong Exchanges & Clearing Ltd., the city’s stock market, wrote in a blog this month. Eventually, there will be “fund outflows of historic proportions, driven by China’s needs to deploy and diversify its national wealth to the global markets,” he wrote.

The continuing opening of China’s capital account will also promote the trading of commodities in yuan, and boost China’s ability to influence their prices, according to an analysis by Bloomberg Intelligence.

As was the case with China’s WTO entry, where many of the hurdles had been cleared in the years leading up to 2001, policy makers in Beijing have been easing restrictions on the currency, the flow of money and interest rates for years. What’s making 2015 notable is the International Monetary Fund’s once-in-five-year review of its basket of reserve currencies. China wants in, and is accelerating reforms to get there.

Offshore Centers
Recent steps to promote its currency have included setting up five offshore yuan centers, a new link between the Shanghai and Hong Kong stock exchanges and letting the tightly controlled yuan trade against the dollar in a wider band. It has promised to remove a cap on interest paid to savers.

“The integration of China –- the world’s second-largest economy with the highest saving rate but still a low per capita income -– into the global capital markets is an unprecedented event,” China International Capital Corp. economists led by Beijing-based Liang Hong wrote in a note this month.

There are already signs of that potential. Chinese buyers topped Canadians to rank as the biggest foreign purchasers of U.S. homes by sales and dollar volume in the year through March, accounting for more than a quarter of all international spending.

Moving Abroad
Lenders are speeding up their ambitions: Bank of Communications Co., China’s fifth-largest lender, is making its first overseas acquisition by buying a lender in Brazil, while China Construction Bank Corp. plans to open branches in Europe, Southeast Asia and Africa.

The global community is watching. U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob L. Lew said after meetings this week between U.S. and Chinese officials that China is committed to pushing through necessary reforms to liberalize interest rates, open capital markets and open up more to foreign enterprises. The U.S. wants more access to the world’s second-biggest economy for its financial firms, something that’s been elusive since China’s WTO entry.

Few expect the yuan to soon threaten the dollar’s role as the global reserve currency, with a wave of domestic reforms needed first up to reassure international investors -- such as bolstering liquidity in the local bond market.

While U.S. policy makers are betting that a more open China will ease currency tensions between the two nations, any rapid depreciation in the yuan could trigger large-scale capital outflows, prompting intervention and new restrictions from China’s policy makers.

U.S. Friendly
“If they’re going to be gradually opening up to be like the U.S., then vast amounts of money are going to flow overseas,” said David Dollar, who served as U.S. Treasury attache in China and is now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “I would speculate that it favors the U.S. over everything else.”

Other nations, from Argentina to South Korea, have suffered whiplash from volatile capital flows after they eased restrictions. While China is unlikely to tear down the barricades altogether, the opening of the nation’s capital borders will reverberate across the world.

“I don’t think you can find any significant economic system where deposits in the banking system are twice GDP,” said Nicholas Lardy, who has studied China for more than three decades and is a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “That’s the potential.”

Would you mind not bringing China into any comparisons with india? The differences in ground realities are not marginal but in multiples, even in order of magnitude, just check the recent 2014 data. Thanks.


So what's the big deal if China is ahead today. China started opening up its economy some 14 years before India. Moreover people are still asking for India to carry out more reforms which clearly shows that India hasn't fully liberalized YET. Not to mention their different political systems and bureaucracy. Obviously India will be behind today.
Boths global importance is measured not by their present clout but what people largely expect them to be in the future. Today not many focus on India, but how many focused on China say 10 years ago, when its economy was of similar size as India today. Unless you believe that Indians are some inherently weaker race, then there shouldn't be much problem hyphenating India and China. By you, I don't mean @RisingShiningSuperpower and all the official trolls of this forum but others.

Whatever ideas of 14 years lag, different political system, bright future, I can't and won't have disagreement to how forumer view india or any other countries. What I found distasteful is hyphenating india and China, difference is staggering, there is nothing common/comparable in between, hence I agree with you that forumers or journalists shall not post threads/articles of such nature.
 
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Would you mind not bringing China into any comparisons with india?
Would you mind doing the same
Some more indicators
  • Agriculture GDP 2.7 times (Note: India has highest % of GDP on agriculture i.e. is an agrarian economy)
  • Services GDP 4.3 times
  • Overall GDP 5.1 times
  • Merchandise exports 7.1 times
  • Industrial GDP 8.4 times
  • Forex reserves 11.1 times
  • High-technology exports 33.6 times
  • Over 124 countries have China as largest trading partners.
  • ....
List of countries by GDP sector composition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by foreign-exchange reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Merchandise exports (current US$) | Data | Table
High-technology exports (current US$) | Data | Table
Why is India losing the competitiveness race? | beyondbrics
AP IMPACT: China overtaking US as global trader
Whatever ideas of 14 years lag, different political system, bright future, I can't and won't have disagreement to how forumer view india or any other countries. What I found distasteful is hyphenating india and China, difference is staggering, there is nothing common/comparable in between, hence I agree with you that forumers shall not post threads of such nature.
I am deeply sorry that you find Indo-China hyphenation offensive. Oops I did it again...
As for whether there is something common/comparable about the two.......yes there is, and that is both have 1 billion plus population, both are relatively late at liberalizing economies and hence poorer/lagging compared to the developed world (regardless of India being poorer than China), more importantly both are high-growth economies. 14 year lag and political-legal systems are amongst the various factors that help us elucidate the reason for difference amongst the two economies. It is certainly of interest to the rest of the world because international relationships aren't only a function of past and present but also that of the future, in fact that is often the defining factor in decision making. Which is why economic predictions of even 2040 or 2050 are also taken into consideration when setting up your foreign policy w.r.t to other states.

So once again if you are a serious analyst, you wouldn't dismiss this comparison based on the stats that you 'Ctrl C+Ctrl V'ed. China and India are very different but they have some similarities too.
India's Economy Today: Much Like China's in 2001 - WSJ
Unless of course, if you like the rest of your compatriots consider the Indians as inferior, then ........................................................................... nvm.
 
Good for China. But please don't make it a slug fest as per false flag OP's intentions. Nobody in India thinks that we are better than China but we aspire to be. And high IQ Chinese here, I suggest you take your bragging to somewhere, its unbecoming of your culture.
 
India, A Super power in 2020...?This is not possible. But there is nothing wrong to sleep with good dream every night.
 
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India, A Super power in 2020...?This is not possible. But there is nothing wrong to sleep with good dream every night.

Everything is possible. India has the brains and the money to achieve anything. Only leadership was lacking before. With Modi-ji in power, India will definitely become a superpower by 2020!
 
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