India Took a Shocking 33 Years to Develop a Jet Fighter (And It’s Still Not Ready for Combat)

[Aasimkhan]

Its already did dude

Entered with 2 planes ? ha ha

 

[Windjammer]

Same old troll tactics. That is merely a model.

Tejas haven't been flying in several Aero Indias & now Bahrain air show demonstrating it's capabilities to spectators.

And if flying an aircraft in the national day parade is the criterion here, our twin engine aircraft have been appearing for the parade ever since the days of Marut.

Now tell me, when will you see a Pakistani developed basic trainer taking part in the national day parade ?

Forget taking part in national day parades where you people don't even have the confidence to fly a single engine jet.
We have the likes of K-8 performing that day and one even landed on the motorway....and what happened to your mighty MKI and Mirage.....oh they didn't land for the fear of bursting their tyres.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

lol are these LBG's?????

The last one Probably satellite guided. But LGBs have been integrated into the jf-17s. Just no video.

 

[gslv mk3]

Listen you are buying 20 Tejas Mk1 and 83 Tejas Mk1A, that is the end of Tejas production. No more Tejas Mk2, its decided, Mr Modi wants to focus on 5th generation aircraft now. enough of this Tejas joke now

More BS ? No decision was taken to stop Tejas production after 80th Mk1A rolls out was ever taken.

If they have enough then why are they asking for Tejas? you really think people here are fools ?

There are advantages of operating a single engine, indigenously produced single engine aircraft over operating Mig 29K.

Forget taking part in national day parades where you people don't even have the confidence to fly a single engine jet.

We care about the safety of the spectators. Nothing to do with 'confidence'.

We have the likes of K-8 performing that day and one even landed on the motorway.

K 8 isn't even half Pakistani, is it ?

 

[SDS1]

The last one Probably satellite guided. But LGBs have been integrated into the jf-17s. Just no video.

But not LBG's the precision Bombing required LBG's. these unguided bombs can be dropped by Trainer planes also... dude..

 

[gslv mk3]

and what happened to your mighty MKI

 

[SDS1]

Entered with 2 planes ? ha ha

yes , with opening 2nd production like also but your trainer planer enter into service which cant carry LBG's, lol

 

[WaLeEdK2]

But not LBG's the precision Bombing required LBG's

Satellite guided are precision. LGBs have been integrated with it. There's just no video.
JF-17 has had operational hours as well.
http://quwa.org/2016/04/29/jf-17-logs-19000-operational-flight-hours/

 

[Windjammer]

More BS ? No decision was taken to stop Tejas production after 80th Mk1A rolls out was ever taken.



There are advantages of operating a single engine, indigenously produced single engine aircraft over operating Mig 29K.



We care about the safety of the spectators. Nothing to do with 'confidence'.



K 8 isn't even half Pakistani, is it ?

Yea you need all the safety when you can't even stage manage a show to compete with Pakistan.
And K-8 is a joint production and we are exporting both the Mashak and K-8....while you have to import even the basic trainers now..

 

[gslv mk3]

And K-8 is a joint production and we are exporting both the Mashak and K-8....while you have to import even the basic trainers now..

'Joint production' not joint development. Don't worry about us, we are developing our own basic trainers, combat & light helicopters. And we manufacture fighters, attack aircraft & jet trainers with high amount of localization including critical subsystems such as engines.

Now go develop a basic trainer before criticizing Indians.

Yea you need all the safety when you can't even stage manage a show to compete with Pakistan.

Ever heard of Aero India ?

 

[Trumpcard]

Forget taking part in national day parades where you people don't even have the confidence to fly a single engine jet.
We have the likes of K-8 performing that day and one even landed on the motorway....and what happened to your mighty MKI and Mirage.....oh they didn't land for the fear of bursting their tyres.

Maybe because you need twin engine jets in the first place to fly them during your parades!

 

[SDS1]

Forget taking part in national day parades where you people don't even have the confidence to fly a single engine jet.
We have the likes of K-8 performing that day and one even landed on the motorway....and what happened to your mighty MKI and Mirage.....oh they didn't land for the fear of bursting their tyres.

We are dont need ever of our air field getting destroyed ... so we have lot of airports unlike PAK,,,,, right now we just doing sometime pass exerciser on Roads.

Satellite guided are precision. LGBs have been integrated with it. There's just no video.
JF-17 has had operational hours as well.
http://quwa.org/2016/04/29/jf-17-logs-19000-operational-flight-hours/

These bombs can also be dropped by Trainer planes , dude.......

 

[Aasimkhan]

Any link bruh?

Tejas MK2 is finally scrapped:IAF will just order MK1-A,MK1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome...hter-jets.html

Hoping to seal the contract for the purchase of 36 French Rafale jets by the end of this year, the Indian Air Force has pinned hopes on struggling home-made solutions — Light Combat Aircraft “Tejas” and yet to be developed indigenous fifth generation fighter — to end the critical shortage of fighter jets.
IAF chief Arup Raha on Saturday sounded optimistic about the ongoing negotiations with the French government for buying Rafales but admitted that adding up numbers to increase fighter jet strength remains a challenge.
Speaking to reporters ahead of Air Force Day on October 8, Air Chief Marshal Raha said that IAF needs six squadrons (around 120 aircraft) of Rafale-type medium multi-role class of aircraft, clearly spelling out that the 36 fighter jets under negotiations are not enough.

He said all the options were available to fill the shortfall but it was still not clear if India will increase the order for Rafales or go for a new aircraft.
The air chief, however, claimed that the selection of Rafale jets was so impeccable that the French aircraft maker Dassault was able to sell the aircraft to many other countries riding on IAF’s strict evaluation.
IAF’s original plan to buy 126 Rafales was scrapped earlier this year by the Modi Government after the prolonged negotiations had hit a deadlock.


A fresh attempt, this time through direct negotiations with the French government, is underway to buy 36 jets.
The IAF needs to add 10 new squadrons by 2027 from the current strength of 32 squadrons.
The force also seems to have made a subtle rejig in its plan to strengthen its fighter jet muscle.
In a significant move, the IAF has scrapped the plan to develop an upgraded version of LCA “Tejas”and will settle for six squadrons of the existing aircraft with certain improvements — better radar, new electronic warfare suit, refueling capacity and improved missiles — in the existing form.
Sources said that existing LCA had 57 deficiencies out of which 45 have been addressed and with four key changes, it can be inducted in large numbers.
The training of IAF pilots on LCA has already commenced with a batch of four and the first aircraft is expected to be handed over by March next year.


In the earlier plan, a more powerful LCA Mk II was proposed to overcome problems in the initial version.
Along with Tejas, development of advanced medium aircraft, an indigenous fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), will be given impetus with the help of foreign consultant.
The IAF chief hoped that the country had 15 years to develop indigenous FGFA.
The project is crucial considering the fact that India’s joint development of FGFA with Russia has entered rough weather and only political intervention can resurrect the programme.
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Tejas MK2 is finally scrapped:IAF will just order MK1-A,MK1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome...hter-jets.html

Hoping to seal the contract for the purchase of 36 French Rafale jets by the end of this year, the Indian Air Force has pinned hopes on struggling home-made solutions — Light Combat Aircraft “Tejas” and yet to be developed indigenous fifth generation fighter — to end the critical shortage of fighter jets.
IAF chief Arup Raha on Saturday sounded optimistic about the ongoing negotiations with the French government for buying Rafales but admitted that adding up numbers to increase fighter jet strength remains a challenge.
Speaking to reporters ahead of Air Force Day on October 8, Air Chief Marshal Raha said that IAF needs six squadrons (around 120 aircraft) of Rafale-type medium multi-role class of aircraft, clearly spelling out that the 36 fighter jets under negotiations are not enough.

He said all the options were available to fill the shortfall but it was still not clear if India will increase the order for Rafales or go for a new aircraft.
The air chief, however, claimed that the selection of Rafale jets was so impeccable that the French aircraft maker Dassault was able to sell the aircraft to many other countries riding on IAF’s strict evaluation.
IAF’s original plan to buy 126 Rafales was scrapped earlier this year by the Modi Government after the prolonged negotiations had hit a deadlock.


A fresh attempt, this time through direct negotiations with the French government, is underway to buy 36 jets.
The IAF needs to add 10 new squadrons by 2027 from the current strength of 32 squadrons.
The force also seems to have made a subtle rejig in its plan to strengthen its fighter jet muscle.
In a significant move, the IAF has scrapped the plan to develop an upgraded version of LCA “Tejas”and will settle for six squadrons of the existing aircraft with certain improvements — better radar, new electronic warfare suit, refueling capacity and improved missiles — in the existing form.
Sources said that existing LCA had 57 deficiencies out of which 45 have been addressed and with four key changes, it can be inducted in large numbers.
The training of IAF pilots on LCA has already commenced with a batch of four and the first aircraft is expected to be handed over by March next year.


In the earlier plan, a more powerful LCA Mk II was proposed to overcome problems in the initial version.
Along with Tejas, development of advanced medium aircraft, an indigenous fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), will be given impetus with the help of foreign consultant.
The IAF chief hoped that the country had 15 years to develop indigenous FGFA.
The project is crucial considering the fact that India’s joint development of FGFA with Russia has entered rough weather and only political intervention can resurrect the programme.
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Happy now ?

 

[SDS1]

Yea you need all the safety when you can't even stage manage a show to compete with Pakistan.
And K-8 is a joint production and we are exporting both the Mashak and K-8....while you have to import even the basic trainers now..

yes you capable on producing of low end plane while India on High end side, we produce Su-30 and Hawk....and low end given to outside companies / countries like you.

Tejas MK2 is finally scrapped:IAF will just order MK1-A,MK1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome...hter-jets.html

Hoping to seal the contract for the purchase of 36 French Rafale jets by the end of this year, the Indian Air Force has pinned hopes on struggling home-made solutions — Light Combat Aircraft “Tejas” and yet to be developed indigenous fifth generation fighter — to end the critical shortage of fighter jets.
IAF chief Arup Raha on Saturday sounded optimistic about the ongoing negotiations with the French government for buying Rafales but admitted that adding up numbers to increase fighter jet strength remains a challenge.
Speaking to reporters ahead of Air Force Day on October 8, Air Chief Marshal Raha said that IAF needs six squadrons (around 120 aircraft) of Rafale-type medium multi-role class of aircraft, clearly spelling out that the 36 fighter jets under negotiations are not enough.

He said all the options were available to fill the shortfall but it was still not clear if India will increase the order for Rafales or go for a new aircraft.
The air chief, however, claimed that the selection of Rafale jets was so impeccable that the French aircraft maker Dassault was able to sell the aircraft to many other countries riding on IAF’s strict evaluation.
IAF’s original plan to buy 126 Rafales was scrapped earlier this year by the Modi Government after the prolonged negotiations had hit a deadlock.


A fresh attempt, this time through direct negotiations with the French government, is underway to buy 36 jets.
The IAF needs to add 10 new squadrons by 2027 from the current strength of 32 squadrons.
The force also seems to have made a subtle rejig in its plan to strengthen its fighter jet muscle.
In a significant move, the IAF has scrapped the plan to develop an upgraded version of LCA “Tejas”and will settle for six squadrons of the existing aircraft with certain improvements — better radar, new electronic warfare suit, refueling capacity and improved missiles — in the existing form.
Sources said that existing LCA had 57 deficiencies out of which 45 have been addressed and with four key changes, it can be inducted in large numbers.
The training of IAF pilots on LCA has already commenced with a batch of four and the first aircraft is expected to be handed over by March next year.


In the earlier plan, a more powerful LCA Mk II was proposed to overcome problems in the initial version.
Along with Tejas, development of advanced medium aircraft, an indigenous fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), will be given impetus with the help of foreign consultant.
The IAF chief hoped that the country had 15 years to develop indigenous FGFA.
The project is crucial considering the fact that India’s joint development of FGFA with Russia has entered rough weather and only political intervention can resurrect the programme.
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Happy now ?

Oh dude ,,,, The all the MK-II things will come in 1A , (other then engine) only the more power engine requirement is dropped as current engine find to be sufficient with improvement in aerodynamics..

Apply brain...

 

[gslv mk3]

Tejas MK2 is finally scrapped:IAF will just order MK1-A,MK1

dailymail

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...s-aircraft-developer/articleshow/55871735.cms