India To Be Offered US Navy’s Future Unmanned UAS?

[arp2041]

Northrop Grumman will for the first time highlight the MQ-4C Triton long endurance unmanned air system at Aero India 2013. The underdevelopment system is being created under the Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) programme that Northrop Grumman won in 2008.

The system was officially unveiled in June last year. In a statement, Northrop Grumman has said, “Triton is a maritime version of the combat-proven Global Hawk unmanned aircraft system. Developed for the US Navy, Triton can fly missions for 24 hours at altitudes more than 14 kilometres, allowing the system to cover vast areas of ocean and coastal regions.

The Navy developed its future concept for maritime patrol using Triton in conjunction with the P-8 Poseidon, a manned surveillance platform that has also been purchased by the Indian Navy. Sources say the company plans to take forward discussions on the Triton based on the proposition that the Indian Navy’s choice of the Boeing P-8 makes the Triton a logical choice for the Indian Navy, since it is being developed for operations alongside the US Navy’s fleet of Boeing P-8A Poseidon jets.

According to Northrop Grumman literature on the MQ-4C Triton, it “provides the U.S. Navy with an advanced autonomous air vehicle and state-of-the-art, service-oriented architecture mission control system. Incorporating Navy requirements into a family of air vehicles that are in production and combat proven provides a cost-effective system with the greatest capability at the lowest risk.”

Key features of the Triton are said to include persistent maritime ISR at a mission radius of 2,000 nm; 24 hours/7 days per week with 80 per cent Effective Time on Station (ETOS), land-based air vehicle and sensor command and control, afloat Level II payload sensor data via line-of-sight, dual redundant flight controls and surfaces, 51,000-hour airframe life, due regard radar for safe separation, anti/de-ice, bird strike, and lightning protection, communications bandwidth management, commercial off-the-shelf open architecture, mission control system, net-ready interoperability solution.

The other “marinised” unmanned air systems at Aero India vying for the Indian Navy’s attention are the Elbit Systems Hermes 900 MP and the Boeing Insitu Scan Eagle.

India To Be Offered US Navy s Future Unmanned UAS? - SP's Naval Forces

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

Isko khareedna toh banta hai

 

[ashok321]

Northrop Grumman will for the first time highlight the MQ-4C Triton long endurance unmanned air system at Aero India 2013. The underdevelopment system is being created under the Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) programme that Northrop Grumman won in 2008.

The system was officially unveiled in June last year. In a statement, Northrop Grumman has said, “Triton is a maritime version of the combat-proven Global Hawk unmanned aircraft system. Developed for the US Navy, Triton can fly missions for 24 hours at altitudes more than 14 kilometres, allowing the system to cover vast areas of ocean and coastal regions.

The Navy developed its future concept for maritime patrol using Triton in conjunction with the P-8 Poseidon, a manned surveillance platform that has also been purchased by the Indian Navy. Sources say the company plans to take forward discussions on the Triton based on the proposition that the Indian Navy’s choice of the Boeing P-8 makes the Triton a logical choice for the Indian Navy, since it is being developed for operations alongside the US Navy’s fleet of Boeing P-8A Poseidon jets.

According to Northrop Grumman literature on the MQ-4C Triton, it “provides the U.S. Navy with an advanced autonomous air vehicle and state-of-the-art, service-oriented architecture mission control system. Incorporating Navy requirements into a family of air vehicles that are in production and combat proven provides a cost-effective system with the greatest capability at the lowest risk.”

Key features of the Triton are said to include persistent maritime ISR at a mission radius of 2,000 nm; 24 hours/7 days per week with 80 per cent Effective Time on Station (ETOS), land-based air vehicle and sensor command and control, afloat Level II payload sensor data via line-of-sight, dual redundant flight controls and surfaces, 51,000-hour airframe life, due regard radar for safe separation, anti/de-ice, bird strike, and lightning protection, communications bandwidth management, commercial off-the-shelf open architecture, mission control system, net-ready interoperability solution.

The other “marinised” unmanned air systems at Aero India vying for the Indian Navy’s attention are the Elbit Systems Hermes 900 MP and the Boeing Insitu Scan Eagle.

India To Be Offered US Navy s Future Unmanned UAS? - SP's Naval Forces

And the weapon load being?

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

And the weapon load being?

Reconnaissance UAVs

 

[Skull and Bones]

Seriously, why so much reluctance in developing Rustom H?

 

[ashok321]

Reconnaissance UAVs

UAV without fangs?
Not palatable.
No need, thanks.
India does not have so many dollars to fork out for such gizmos.
Indian Rustom is on its way - with weapon load.
Welcome Rustomji - Bye bye BAMSji....

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

UAV without fangs?
Not palatable.
No need, thanks.
India does not have so many dollars to fork out for such gizmos.
Indian Rustom is on its way - with weapon load.
Welcome Rustomji - Bye bye BAMSji....

An UAV without fangs (weapons ) can monitor a large area .. due to it's less load. WIll also have a really long 'On station' time ..

 

[trident2010]

No need. Develop Rustom.

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

Can someone compare this with the Rustom's tentative capabilities. Thanks !

 

[ashok321]

An UAV without fangs (weapons ) can monitor a large area .. due to it's less load. WIll also have a really long 'On station' time ..

Rustom-II: An unmanned combat air vehicle based on Rustom-H model. It is often compared with Predator drones by Indian scientists and media

Why export your USD to USA?
Ask yrself why the USA is not offering you X-47B.

 

[Agent_47]

US can't sell this to us.According to MTCR.
End of story.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Northrop Grumman will for the first time highlight the MQ-4C Triton long endurance unmanned air system at Aero India 2013. The underdevelopment system is being created under the Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) programme that Northrop Grumman won in 2008.

The system was officially unveiled in June last year. In a statement, Northrop Grumman has said, “Triton is a maritime version of the combat-proven Global Hawk unmanned aircraft system. Developed for the US Navy, Triton can fly missions for 24 hours at altitudes more than 14 kilometres, allowing the system to cover vast areas of ocean and coastal regions.

The Navy developed its future concept for maritime patrol using Triton in conjunction with the P-8 Poseidon, a manned surveillance platform that has also been purchased by the Indian Navy. Sources say the company plans to take forward discussions on the Triton based on the proposition that the Indian Navy’s choice of the Boeing P-8 makes the Triton a logical choice for the Indian Navy, since it is being developed for operations alongside the US Navy’s fleet of Boeing P-8A Poseidon jets.

According to Northrop Grumman literature on the MQ-4C Triton, it “provides the U.S. Navy with an advanced autonomous air vehicle and state-of-the-art, service-oriented architecture mission control system. Incorporating Navy requirements into a family of air vehicles that are in production and combat proven provides a cost-effective system with the greatest capability at the lowest risk.”

Key features of the Triton are said to include persistent maritime ISR at a mission radius of 2,000 nm; 24 hours/7 days per week with 80 per cent Effective Time on Station (ETOS), land-based air vehicle and sensor command and control, afloat Level II payload sensor data via line-of-sight, dual redundant flight controls and surfaces, 51,000-hour airframe life, due regard radar for safe separation, anti/de-ice, bird strike, and lightning protection, communications bandwidth management, commercial off-the-shelf open architecture, mission control system, net-ready interoperability solution.

The other “marinised” unmanned air systems at Aero India vying for the Indian Navy’s attention are the Elbit Systems Hermes 900 MP and the Boeing Insitu Scan Eagle.

India To Be Offered US Navy s Future Unmanned UAS? - SP's Naval Forces

As @Agent_47 said- this deal is subject to the GoI and USG coming to an agreement as right now this deal is bound by MCTR restrictions. It is still likely the deal will happen. The IN is said to fully agree with the USN's vision wrt the P-8-BAMS combo.


Have to wait and see what the govt-govt talks yield.

Seriously, why so much reluctance in developing Rustom H?

No need. Develop Rustom.

Rustom-H is at least 8 years away from being fully operational. The IN could get the BAMS within 4 years. Maritime survelince is a major issue where gaps have become apparent as witnessed in 26/11. The IN/GoI/ICG is taking huge steps to address the gaps so the nation can't be waiting God knows how long for an indgenious solution whilst the gaps remain unchecked.

I have always said- yes, for for indigenous solutions where possible but do not do so at the expense of national security and if it means you will have to wait indefinitely for deliveries.

 

[ashok321]

US can't sell this to us.According to MTCR.
End of story.

SEOUL — South Korea Sunday announced a deal with the United States to almost triple the range of its missiles to cover the whole of North Korea -- a move likely to infuriate Pyongyang. The agreement will allow the South to deploy missiles with a range of 800 kilometres (500 miles), up from the current limit of 300 kilometres, National Security Adviser Chun Yung-Woo told reporters. An agreement signed with the US in 2001 -- the year South Korea joined the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) -- restricted Seoul to rockets with a range of 300 kilometres and a payload of 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds). Chun said the new deal, which will take the range of South Korea's missiles well beyond MTCR limits, was aimed at "securing a more comprehensive response to missile threats" by the North

Hmmm So both the countries, US and South Korea want to violate MTCR?
Okey!
The same can be done with India and the USA too.
Why not?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Hmmm So both the countries, US and South Korea want to violate MTCR?
Okey!
The same can be done with India and the USA too.
Why not?

Like I said the deal is subject to Govt-Govt talks. If the GoI and UST can come to an agreement then the system will be delivered to the IN.

 

[ashok321]

Like I said the deal is subject to Govt-Govt talks. If the GoI and UST can come to an agreement then the system will be delivered to the IN.

Its not about the gov to gov or corp to gov.
Its export controls from one land to another.
Governed by MTCR, of which US as a signatory has to respect.
But flouts when the need be for its allies a la South Korea.