India to arm Afghan Army to take on Pak after Torkham incident?

[ZAC1]

military edge over taliban with old stuff depot.joke of the day.talisban are fighting with coalition force having latest weapons india is giving them junk yard

 

[ZAC1]

i found a bit old tech but much useful still can be used on western border like we have

Aérospatiale Alouette III

BGM-71 TOW


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Al zarrar

there are alot of stuff in reserves sitting duck they should be handed over to FC like Al zarrar etc

 

[Path-Finder]

i found a bit old tech but much useful still can be used on western border like we have

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Aérospatiale Alouette III

BGM-71 TOW


AT-11 Sniper


HN-5A

T-54/55

Type 59


Al zarrar

there are alot of stuff in reserves sitting duck they should be handed over to FC like Al zarrar etc

TOW is not outdated at all infact this system which was considered outdated has proven to be extremely effective in Syria.

I will say we should get some SH-1 155mm self propelled Howitzer for the western border in good number and more wheel based gun armored vehicle with turret like AMX- for rapid deployment will be good.

 

[ZAC1]

TOW is not outdated at all infact this system which was considered outdated has proven to be extremely effective in Syria.

I will say we should get some SH-1 155mm self propelled Howitzer for the western border in good number and more wheel based gun armored vehicle with turret like AMX- for rapid deployment will be good.

TOW basic version is not effective against new tanks...we are going to deal Afghanistan..i will prefer
Panter howitzer due to TOT.we can made them at home with Aselsan BAIKS-2000 Field Artillery Battery Fire Direction system

much effective system n cheap solution

 

[Path-Finder]

TOW basic version is not effective against new tanks...we are going to deal Afghanistan..i will prefer
Panter howitzer due to TOT.we can made them at home with Aselsan BAIKS-2000 Field Artillery Battery Fire Direction system

much effective system n cheap solution

SH-1 is truck mounter and more maneuverable so if it needs to be driven to the border it can get their quicker! Panter will have to be towed and that can take time.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

SH-1 is truck mounter and more maneuverable so if it needs to be driven to the border it can get their quicker! Panter will have to be towed and that can take time.

That's needed for India..

 

[ConcealCarry]

Which then can find their way back in india, what a great advantage for us

almost all weapons will be sold by the Norther Alliance thugs.. the equipment will end up in Peshawar Bara market..

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

I understand your logic but mate you are not the one who's calling the shots....the ring leader in this Indo-Afghan circus is Ajit Doval. He has a different mentality, do you think 5 Indians consulates in a small war torn country and millions of dollars of investment in making dams and other infrastructure is just on humanitarian basis I mean there many African countries even more deserving than Afghanistan but India does not show even 10% of the interest and India does not even share a single border with Afghanistan. That's not how baniyas do business sir...they look for their interests and profits. Though I'm pretty sure that no amount of investment on ANA can make it strong enough even to take care of its boundaries and a credible force against Talibans. ANA is an undisciplined, unorganised force with no professionalism and traditions. It is more like a junta of weed smoking part time criminals unlike IA or PA.

I am quite amused. I am not sure on what basis you call our NSA , a terrorists and I take offence to it. A reason we show more affection towards Afghanistan than some African countries are cos Afghans are in our backyard. Why should I have 5 consulates in some distant nation? However you might try, there is no way, Afghanistan can separate away its historical ties from India.

NSA seldom rank their opinion in public. There was 5 consulates there even before he was NSA. For the record, atleast he is not a loose talk like ur NSA. He operates in shadows, does not like limelight, like a true professional unlike ur camera loving interview fond NSA.

And I would like to see the report from IA tabled in Parliament, does the training imparted to ANA has seen any effective gain on the field or no. After getting all training, this is unacceptable. Will Power is more important than modern geared weapons. Perhaps they got swayed by the US Army gadgets. An normal Indian Army Jawan hardly has anything except 3 catridges and a rifle. Many dont even have bulletproof Jackets.

 

[Signalian]

SH-1 is truck mounter and more maneuverable so if it needs to be driven to the border it can get their quicker! Panter will have to be towed and that can take time.

Mate, did u say quicker ?

This below Towed Arty demonstration is comparable with SP Gun deployment. Count the minutes of Towed Rapid Deployment.

Get IN, FIRE, Get OUT.

Secondly,

Nothing beats quicker deployment than air lifting of 105mm Guns by Helicopter and deploying them. No vehicle can beat that.

Thirdly,

In Afghanistan Terrain, Armoured forces can be easily ambushed. Its best to use air mobile forces.

Fourthly, Its a mountainous terrain, you may need to deploy artillery on peaks. SP Guns cannot climb peaks but Helis can drop artillery on peaks.

i found a bit old tech but much useful still can be used on western border like we have

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Aérospatiale Alouette III

BGM-71 TOW


AT-11 Sniper


HN-5A

T-54/55

Type 59


Al zarrar

there are alot of stuff in reserves sitting duck they should be handed over to FC like Al zarrar etc

The idea is not to use anything against western border. Keep the western border conflict under control. Fighting on two or more fronts is never a good strategy.

 

[Signalian]

We need to supply them with Dhruv's with armed Helina.

This will be a sitting duck for F-7P in A2A combat. Afghanistan Airforce has no AD fighters.
Or
This will be taken out by single strike of Non-ROSE Mirage III.
Or
One small SSG Raid op on Afghan air base will take it out before it even gets airborne.

At the end of the day, Indian equipment will get a bad reputation and its service history on "wikipedia" will get maligned .

ISLAMABAD : Indian war veterans and strategic analysts have said India should supply heavy military equipment to the Afghan armed forces, including tanks and field artillery.

In an Op-Ed published in New Indian Express newspaper, Maj. Gen. (Retd) G D Bakhshi, said ” Rapidly do capacity building of the Afghan army, so that it has a military edge over the Taliban and can defend its territory against Pakistan’s incursions.”

The Retired Indian Army General further added that India should “Complete the Chabahar-Zaranj-Delaram road and beltway via Iran. Till then, supply tanks, artillery guns, attack helicopters and trainer jets via Russia.”

“Once the Chabahar beltway opens up, it can supply large numbers of T-54/T-55 tanks and 105 mm field guns lying in our depot stocks and salvage yards,” Gen. Bakhshi added.

The Op-Ed by Gen. Bakhshi was published days after a bloody clash erupted among the Afghan and Pakistani forces in Torkham over the construction of border gate by the Pakistani forces.

Seriously?
A strategic analyst who forgets to figure out that Afghanistan has no Air Force to defend against air strikes by PAF?

Ravi Rikhye, reborn.

 

[Crixus]

Let India feed its poor and educate illiterate first then think about Afghanistani Army ... It will be better if India arms some Afghan universities or schools or hospitals before arming their Army

 

[BRAVO_]

Americans have so far spend 65 Billions $ on Afghan Army but results are zero .. do you think indians have that much finencial strength to feed the afghan military after the departure of Americans? and beside that Afghan army already have more than 600 T55 & T62 Tanks, they are not trained for such military warfare in war only machine wont fight .. its the man who fight ... so this artical is just a news firework and thats it

 

[war&peace]

I am quite amused. I am not sure on what basis you call our NSA , a terrorists and I take offence to it. A reason we show more affection towards Afghanistan than some African countries are cos Afghans are in our backyard. Why should I have 5 consulates in some distant nation? However you might try, there is no way, Afghanistan can separate away its historical ties from India.

NSA seldom rank their opinion in public. There was 5 consulates there even before he was NSA. For the record, atleast he is not a loose talk like ur NSA. He operates in shadows, does not like limelight, like a true professional unlike ur camera loving interview fond NSA.

And I would like to see the report from IA tabled in Parliament, does the training imparted to ANA has seen any effective gain on the field or no. After getting all training, this is unacceptable. Will Power is more important than modern geared weapons. Perhaps they got swayed by the US Army gadgets. An normal Indian Army Jawan hardly has anything except 3 catridges and a rifle. Many dont even have bulletproof Jackets.

Facts cannot be changed and he is on record supporting terrorism in Pakistan so I rather stick with facts instead of emotions.
I think you really need to look at the map since Afghanistan is not India's backyard but Pakistan's. Rest of your comment is so crappy and full of lies that it is not worth any answers. Everyone can see that.

 

[Imran Khan]

We need to supply them with Dhruv's with armed Helina.

but in real world you supply them 3 of this 50 years old junk

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Facts cannot be changed and he is on record supporting terrorism in Pakistan so I rather stick with facts instead of emotions.
I think you really need to look at the map since Afghanistan is not India's backyard but Pakistan's. Rest of your comment is so crappy and full of lies that it is not worth any answers. Everyone can see that.

I would like to know the shortest distance between India and Afghanistan. For how much you may cry, India is currently an regional powerhouse and a stable Afghanistan is in our interest. Its our backyard, not a neighbour.

I will repeat it again. He has not openly stated he funds terrorists in Pakistan. He is a lot better, professional than ur so called NSA.