India summons Iran envoy to protest remarks on Kashmir

[rockstarIN]

^^^They were your enemies in 80s?

 

[CardSharp]

This is getting out of hand. This is essentially an insignificant remark since Khomeini doesn't even mention India by name. He direct his statement at the US and Israel NOT the Indians.

Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a recent message to Haj pilgrims in Tehran: 'Today the major duties of the elite of the Islamic Ummah is to provide help to the Palestinian nation and the besieged people of Gaza, to sympathise and provide assistance to the nations of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Kashmir, to engage in struggle and resistance against the aggressions of the United States and the Zionist regime, to safeguard the solidarity of Muslims....'

This is the New Zealand new caster thing all over again.

 

[India Rising]

yes a very much important player along with Pakistan and Iran.

i am all for joining hands with these and bringing peace.

be realistic.......... see how many leaders are coming to india for economic purpose.... even chinese premiere is also coming...india and US are entering into economic relationship, as far as pakistan and iran is concerned, pakistan is the most important non NATO ally of US, providing their military bases to them. this speaks volumes to me, and you think Iran will discard india because of economic relation with US ?? lol to you. further, india has voted 90 % against US in UN. mind it

 

[I FLY HIGH]

1-India has a relationship with Israel and with Iran and its not a zero sum game.
2- India went out of the gas pipeline on US pressure, but got a port despite US pressure
3- India voted against Iran in IAEA and voted for it many times in the past.
4- Moreover Iranians definetely wouldnt like the atrocities made by Pakistanis against the brotherly Afghans & Balochis.

No hard feelings , but Iran is giving India a very tough time. No Indian friends in the reigion, Pakistan ? China? Iran? Srilanka? Myanmar? Bangladesh? I dont know how India claims to be a global power while it has a very little influence or friendship in its own region.

 

[sensenreason]

I am sorry but now you have given an all together different angle to the problem. It seems you are suggesting that Indian diplomats are not good orator and kind of linking this with relations among countries. I don't want to get into this debate however this is simply not right. We have won way too many friends than enemies. Surely it can't be becuase our babus were rude to people???? Handling a press conference better cannot make you a better diplomat, it is just one attribute...As far as countries relations are concerned then sweet talks cannot win you friends, it is the action on ground....

I hope you can see the difference. B/W don't you think Iran should not have poked their nose in Kashmir??? And New delhi should have responded in some manner??? If yes then what as per you should have been a response???

As far as your question wrt how important is media handling and articulation..its surely a necesary attribute; it wont alone win you any diplomatic brownie points but mishandling can mkae you lose many a battles.Its importance cannot be under estimated.Shiv Menon is good but many others Ive seen were'nt.

Yes, its a different angle. As you might know since early 2009 China has bunked its peaceful rise policy to follow what it calls a proactive foreign policy and hence the spats with Japan, India and others.

As a response to Chinese assertiveness there is a realignment of powers and in many ways Obama's current trip was a response to Chinese policy change.

The Chinese claim that they are within their rights to assert their position...however its been 'perceived' as aggresive...and now China is in a catch 22 vis-a-vis Japanese policy as a direct result....

India inadvertendly has found its own geopolitical voice and US is building lot of air in this assertive policy making balloon.Im just of the view that India is where China was a decade or so back economically and must wait atleast 5 years before attempting high risk realpolitik.So Iranian diplomat could have been called and politely given a tough message and nothing more.Right now, we need more folks in our court than the other and with a nation like Iran its a bit of a either/or situation....so Im just expressing my fear that our arrogant babus might go too far trying to play realpolitik before we acquire the hardware for making some things come to pass. So just 'tone it down'.

 

[CardSharp]

Yes, its a different angle. As you might know since early 2009 China has bunked its peaceful rise policy to follow what it calls a proactive foreign policy and hence the spats with Japan, India and others.

As a response to Chinese assertiveness there is a realignment of powers and in many ways Obama's current trip was a response to Chinese policy change.

The Chinese claim that they are within their rights to assert their position...however its been 'perceived' as aggresive...and now China is in a catch 22 vis-a-vis Japanese policy as a direct result....

Leave China out of this. You are hallucinating your own victimization.

 

[Spring Onion]

be realistic.......... see how many leaders are coming to india for economic purpose.... even chinese premiere is also coming...india and US are entering into economic relationship, as far as pakistan and iran is concerned, pakistan is the most important non NATO ally of US, providing their military bases to them. this speaks volumes to me, and you think Iran will discard india because of economic relation with US ?? lol to you. further, india has voted 90 % against US in UN. mind it

its you who have already left Iran and there is NO use of Indians claiming giving any favour to Iran.

 

[India Rising]

No hard feelings , but Iran is giving India a very tough time. No Indian friends in the reigion, Pakistan ? China? Iran? Srilanka? Myanmar? Bangladesh? I dont know how India claims to be a global power while it has a very little influence or friendship in its own region.

lol......... no hard feeling

srilanka---friendly relationship
bangladesh--- indian stooges at the helm(source: bangladeshi member)
burma--- who told you that we are at fight actually they are helping us to curd the eastern states insurgency, that's why india didnot buckled nder US pressure
Iran--- better than yours relation
Nepal-- friendly
Bhutan--- very friendly
china--- peaceful relation

 

[Spring Onion]

^^^They were your enemies in 80s?

In world geo-politics there are no permanent friends neither permanent enemies.

 

[BATMAN]

Iran, you just lost one close ally. Iran should understand the implication for mixing politics with religion. Good for us. Indo-Isreal close tie up will help India more than India-Iran relationship.

India was an ally because iran was givign employment to thousands of Indians and billions of dollars worth construction contracts.

India was not in a position to take a stand against Iran until Obama offer similar contracts and jobs to India.

 

[India Rising]

its you who have already left Iran and there is NO use of Indians claiming giving any favour to Iran.

who said to you that we left iran...at today's voting, india remained absent.....message has been sent...

international relationship doesn't change overnight....
and if you want to make relation with iran first try to throw US from ur bases and then talk

 

[India Rising]

i know, on this very forum...jana and few pakistanis were supporting that we should amend with israel.....now want happened ?? and a few asked about the pakistan internal uproar, the same janaji told that there won;t be anything after that santro sir replied brilliantly.

 

[Spring Onion]

who said to you that we left iran...at today's voting, india remained absent.....message has been sent...

Thats insignificant.

no practical worth.

international relationship doesn't change overnight....
and if you want to make relation with iran first try to throw US from ur bases and then talk

Let Iran say that Bharat has no right to demand that and specially when you India is currently closing to US you lost the right to point finger at others.

 

[DV RULES]

New Delhi, Nov 19 (PTI)

New Delhi issued a strong demarche to Iran's Charge De Affairs Reza Alaei expressing its "deep disappointment" over the remarks, which is seen here as "impingement of territorial integrity and sovereignty".

In an apparent tit-for-tat, India, for the first time, abstained late last night from voting on the UN resolution on the human rights violations in Iran. In past, India has always voted against the resolution.

Noting that it was a matter of "serious concern", the sources said these comments have also factored India's decision to abstain from voting on the UN resolution, which was piloted by Canada and several other countries.

In an official reaction, Ministry of External Affairs said "our decision on the vote was made after due deliberation." while 80 countries voted in favour of the resolution, 44 voted against it and 57 countries abstained.

Sources were also quick to point out that even in many Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) countries, there has been no consensus on the resolution and Saudi Arabia in past has voted in favour of the resolution.

Since July this year, Iran has on three occasions remarked supporting the "struggle" in Kashmir and bracketed the situation in the state with that in Gaza and Afghanistan, sources said.

India summons Iran envoy to protest remarks on Kashmir

DEIR AED, DRUST AED,

Lets see what will be next move from Iran. Current move is so hopeful & appreciate able.
India must have to be more relations with US.

Iran to

 

[Spring Onion]

i know, on this very forum...jana and few pakistanis were supporting that we should amend with israel.....now want happened ?? and a few asked about the pakistan internal uproar, the same janaji told that there won;t be anything after that santro sir replied brilliantly.

when did i ask you to amend with Israel (whatever that means to you).