India’s Subversive Role in Afghanistan

[Gandhi G in da house]

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Missing persons: ISI, MI counsel says RAW and Mossad involved – The Express Tribune

http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&r...Aechf6bQncWRT5UMQ&sig2=t-blkCOvhPwq5JIuiC-aVA

No dossier was given to India , your own officials admitted it . You need to update yourself .

The rest of the links are no proof . Just claims made by ISI

You'll need something stronger

 

[Dazzler]

What happens when similar reports from Msnbc, cnn, bbc, US state dept, new yorker, washington post, the guardian, La times are posted with a very different conjecture, how do you treat that?

Nothing can be done if one has his eyes closed. Its a shame to deny the obvious. Indian weapons have been recovered multiple times from border regions by FC personnel. Saw them on news many a times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-6rzW2Xwik


another....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYxT1qzo_eg

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Nothing can be done if one has his eyes closed. Its a shame to deny the obvious. Indian weapons have been recovered multiple times from border regions by FC personnel. Saw them on news many a times.

Operation Khawakh Bade Sham : Indian origin Arms & ammunition included Mines and mortars recovered - YouTube


another....


Heavy weapon recovered, smuggler arrested on identification of BLA terrorist in Karachi - YouTube

Firstly those videos do not prove in any way that the weapons were of Indian origin and secondly even if the were of Indian origin , it does not mean we provided them . The Kashmiri jihadis use Russian weapons against us , doesn't mean that the Russians are supporting them . So , either way this proof will not hold water in any court .

Get such news reports from neutral sources and then perhaps we can start taking them seriously .

It's a shame to deny the obvious but there is nothing obvious about Pakistan's claims .

 

[Dazzler]

Firstly those videos do not prove in any way that the weapons were of Indian origin and secondly even if the were of Indian origin , it does not mean we provided them . The Kashmiri jihadis use Russian weapons against us , doesn't mean that the Russians are supporting them . So , either way this proof will not hold water in any court .

Get such news reports from neutral sources and then perhaps we can start taking them seriously .

It's a shame to deny the obvious but there is nothing obvious about Pakistan's claims .

Absolutely!

FC invaded one of their own depot and showed it to media, but then, they never had AAAs. No point in presenting anything more.

 

[MilSpec]

Nothing can be done if one has his eyes closed. Its a shame to deny the obvious. Indian weapons have been recovered multiple times from border regions by FC personnel. Saw them on news many a times.

Operation Khawakh Bade Sham : Indian origin Arms & ammunition included Mines and mortars recovered - YouTube


another....


Heavy weapon recovered, smuggler arrested on identification of BLA terrorist in Karachi - YouTube

I dont see any Insas, kalantaks, excaliburs or any thing in OFB markings? There are no markings on the mine, the PKS , rpg's or the mortars to suggest indian origin. Why has not one International agency reported on this?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

I dont see any Insas, kalantaks, excaliburs or any thing in OFB markings? There are no markings on the mine, the PKS , rpg's or the mortars to suggest indian origin. Why has not one International agency reported on this?

Exactly what I am trying to say but he seems in denial .

 

[illusion8]

If India was seriously fueling Baloch movement we would have had a different map of Pakistan by now, it would have taken roughly a couple of years and it's been 8 years or so since India's in Afghanistan.

So, NO I don't think we are even trying.

 

[arbit]

If India was seriously fueling Baloch movement we would have had a different map of Pakistan by now, it would have taken roughly a couple of years and it's been 8 years or so since India's in Afghanistan.

So, NO I don't think we are even trying.

The OP is not entirely off the mark. The article is partially true.

However the amount of effort put in is just to keep the status quo intact. Keep the wound festering, to keep them occupied. Nothing new, just what they have been doing to us for last 60 years. Karma is certainly a &#$%

We don't want pakistan to pay much attention to its eastern borders.. too many details to go into. A retaliation to the above can be seen in an effort to revive khalistan militancy.

But the major difference is in intention. The goal is not to form a separate entity from Pakistan but something else.

 

[Mitro]

Absolutely!

FC invaded one of their own depot and showed it to media, but then, they never had AAAs. No point in presenting anything more.

This the proof that india is involved in balochistan

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post

In an online discussion earlier this year -- convened by the much-respected journal Foreign Affairs -- Fair had said that Pakistan had legitimate concerns about India's involvement in Afghanistan and that perhaps Islamabad's [ Images ] paranoia that New Delhi was fanning unrest in Balochistan was not unfounded.

'I think it is unfair to dismiss the notion that Pakistan's apprehensions about Afghanistan stem in part from its security competition with India,' she had then said, and noted, "Having visited the Indian mission in Zahedan, Iran, I can assure you they are not issuing visas as the main activity. Moreover, India has run operations from its mission in Mazar and is likely doing so from the other consulates it has reopened in Jalalabad and Kandahar along the (Pak-Afghan) border.'

Fair also went on to claim, 'Indian officials have told me privately that they are pumping money into Balochistan. Kabul has encouraged India to engage in provocative activities such as using the Border Roads Organisation to build sensitive parts of the Rind Road and use the Indo-Tibetan police force for security.'

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post - Rediff.com India News

 

[notsuperstitious]

This the proof that india is involved in balochistan

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post

In an online discussion earlier this year -- convened by the much-respected journal Foreign Affairs -- Fair had said that Pakistan had legitimate concerns about India's involvement in Afghanistan and that perhaps Islamabad's [ Images ] paranoia that New Delhi was fanning unrest in Balochistan was not unfounded.

'I think it is unfair to dismiss the notion that Pakistan's apprehensions about Afghanistan stem in part from its security competition with India,' she had then said, and noted, "Having visited the Indian mission in Zahedan, Iran, I can assure you they are not issuing visas as the main activity. Moreover, India has run operations from its mission in Mazar and is likely doing so from the other consulates it has reopened in Jalalabad and Kandahar along the (Pak-Afghan) border.'

Fair also went on to claim, 'Indian officials have told me privately that they are pumping money into Balochistan. Kabul has encouraged India to engage in provocative activities such as using the Border Roads Organisation to build sensitive parts of the Rind Road and use the Indo-Tibetan police force for security.'

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post - Rediff.com India News

How is that proof? US officials have been saying lots of stuff about Pakistan and ISI, thats called an accusation. Proof would be 29-11 handler calls traced to Pakistan.

 

[Mitro]

How is that proof? US officials have been saying lots of stuff about Pakistan and ISI, thats called an accusation. Proof would be 29-11 handler calls traced to Pakistan.

If you google the name of the person accusing us you will have a idea and she also accusing pakistan involment in AF we all know that we are involve and i dont understand why we are affraid of , bharat sharma clearly said in pakistan TV interview that this will only stop when pakistan makes peace with india

Why we are not hanging the terrorist involve in parliament and mumbai attack
And what stopping us in making surjical strike in terrorist bases that are involve
Even if it lets full war .

 

[humanfirst]

This the proof that india is involved in balochistan

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post

In an online discussion earlier this year -- convened by the much-respected journal Foreign Affairs -- Fair had said that Pakistan had legitimate concerns about India's involvement in Afghanistan and that perhaps Islamabad's [ Images ] paranoia that New Delhi was fanning unrest in Balochistan was not unfounded.

'I think it is unfair to dismiss the notion that Pakistan's apprehensions about Afghanistan stem in part from its security competition with India,' she had then said, and noted, "Having visited the Indian mission in Zahedan, Iran, I can assure you they are not issuing visas as the main activity. Moreover, India has run operations from its mission in Mazar and is likely doing so from the other consulates it has reopened in Jalalabad and Kandahar along the (Pak-Afghan) border.'

Fair also went on to claim, 'Indian officials have told me privately that they are pumping money into Balochistan. Kabul has encouraged India to engage in provocative activities such as using the Border Roads Organisation to build sensitive parts of the Rind Road and use the Indo-Tibetan police force for security.'

US: Expert who infuriated India offered key post - Rediff.com India News

There goes your proof...

Pakistanis Have Blown My Comments Out Of Proportion' -Christine Fair

'Pakistanis Have Blown My Comments Out Of Proportion' | Ashish Kumar Sen

 

[foxbat]

There goes your proof...

An interesting quote from the interview of the lady on whose comments Pakistanis were going to town talking about Indian's involvement in Balochistan

"While India's economy is booming and its relationship with the US, Israel and every other country is growing, Pakistan is becoming ever more diplomatically isolated. I think that as the power inequality between India and Pakistan expands, Pakistan is going to be more reliant on militancy not less. I think this idea that, as India becomes stronger and Pakistan becomes weaker, that Pakistan is simply going to capitulate and acquiesce is probably not going to happen. In fact, I see quite the opposite. I see Pakistan becoming ever more unable to shake free of this tool that it has developed - and from its point of view successfully - for the past six decades. Now, obviously this is not something that has been beneficial. It is eroding the state, it is driving the state ever more into a pariah status and it is destabilising the subcontinent."

 

[humanfirst]

Absolutely!

FC invaded one of their own depot and showed it to media, but then, they never had AAAs. No point in presenting anything more.

None of those weapons are indian origin..A Russian PKM machine of that group was passed of as Indian Vickers Machine Gun and spread in various social media as proof of indian hand in supporting TTP..Its debunked here:
Indian weapons in Swat OR ISI strategy to demonize civilian government?

.Another 82mm mortar from the same collection was also faked as indian by photoshopping on the chinese markings to make it look like hindi,that was debunked in this very forum when one indian member posted the original pictures with clear chinese markings on it..

 

[ajtr]

Sau baat ki ek baat i'll trust pak govt,PA,ISI over their claim that GOI is doing subversive activities in pakistan based on past records of helping and training mukti bahini to do subversive activities in east pakistan and then sending terrorists to do bomb blasts in pakistan or even training LTTE.India is no way innocent.A leopard doesn't change it's spots.