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India’s Moves and the Pakistani Puzzle

what should be India's response to Pakistan?

  • multidimensional efforts of increasing strength,intelligence capability

    Votes: 14 66.7%
  • counter proxy war

    Votes: 7 33.3%

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Pakistan’s internal troubles and external behaviour point increasingly to the need for an increasingly muscular Indian posture
When US President Barack Obama visited India in November of last year, he made a point of staying at one of the two luxury hotels that had been attacked by terrorists two years earlier. The Mumbai attacks of November 26th, 2008, for the first time brought home to a global television audience that India is a frontline state against international terrorism. The carnage was notable for its savagery, audacity, choice of targets and duration. The attacks marked a tipping point, and constitute India’s own 9/11. They spawned a new and frightening, frozen anger at a government that is all bark and no bite. Indians were more contemptuous of their own politicians than angry at Pakistan. Eventually, unvented rage could morph into rejection of democracy in India as limp and corrupt.
Outsiders advised India against war with Pakistan, but offered no realistic plan to destroy the infrastructure of terrorism infesting Pakistan. The world may hope for the best, but should be prepared for the worst. Rising demands for a more assertive regional posture by a nationalistic and increasingly impatient citizenry are the inevitable corollary of India’s sharply higher global profile.
War clouds over the subcontinent will not dissipate because of three key factors: changes in the balance of considerations between no action and some military response by India; India’s waning interest in a stable Pakistan; and the rogue tendencies of Pakistan’s notorious Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).[/B] India’s preference is for the establishment of civilian supremacy over the army and intelligence in Pakistan and consolidation of the institutions of good governance. Failing this, of necessity, India will have to acquire the capability to attack and destroy terrorist infrastructure and operatives across the border. India, along with the international community, will also have to reconsider the balance of rewards and punishment for Pakistan for its contradictory roles in fighting versus fomenting terrorism.
Terrorists have attacked India repeatedly with planning, training and financing based in Pakistan, the military-intelligence-jihadist complex of which has been lethally effective in outsourcing terrorism as an instrument of state policy. India’s policy of off-shoring the response by appealing to the nebulous ‘international community’ has been ineffectual.
The murderers of 9/11 came out of the mountainous caves of Afghanistan, where the Taliban regime – an after-creation of the US and Saudi-backed mujahideen against the Soviet-installed regime, as well as of Pakistan’s search for strategic depth against arch-enemy India – had nurtured them as a potent weapon against all infidels. India’s repeated warnings that the epicentre of international terrorism had shifted from the Middle East to Southwest Asia were dismissed as self-serving rants.
Pakistan has been triangulated historically by the three ‘As’: Allah, the army and America. Washington and NATO are most interested in cajoling Pakistan to fight the militants in the lawless border region with Afghanistan, and to secure their logistical supply route through Pakistan without the added complication of India-Pakistan rivalry. Russia has no leverage over Pakistan. China has a history of using Pakistan to trap India in a subcontinental straitjacket. Outsiders’ neglect of India’s sensitivity could result in a double blow: a costly India-Pakistan war and the intensification of export-quality Islamist terrorism as Pakistan falls apart. For its part, Pakistan’s security elite could fall into the familiar trap of mistaking a democratic neighbour’s reluctance to go to war for weakness, while ignoring the history of democracies as ‘powerful pacifists’ once their peoples are roused and fully mobilized.
India has a vested interest in a stable and prosperous Pakistan, just as all South Asians benefit from a vibrant India. The choice has often seemed to be between an intolerable status quo and the nightmare of a militantly Islamic, 185-million strong, nuclear-armed failed state at the strategic crossroads of South Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East. Born amid the mass killings of partition in 1947, Pakistan has never escaped the cycle of violence, volatility and bloodshed whence it emerged. It lies at the intersection of Islamic jihadism, international terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and the struggle between democratic forces and military dictatorship. This is why in Pakistan, the bad is at least the enemy of the worse.
India should solve its Kashmir problem based on self-interest. New Delhi shows a curious mixture of hubris, arrogance and disingenuousness – too clever by half – in denying that there is a problem. The issue has gravely corroded India’s democratic, secular and humanist values and institutions, and hobbled its globalist aspirations. That said, the core issue bedeviling India-Pakistan relations is not Kashmir, but rather the nature of the Pakistani state and its obsession with parity vis-à-vis India.
Pakistan was an artificial creation with two founding ideologies: ‘not India,’ and homeland of the Muslims. Its primary validating ideology was negative: the Muslims of the subcontinent, whose destiny is to be rulers – not subjects – cannot be ruled by a Hindu-majority government. ‘Not India’ is, on its own, an inadequate basis for building a state. The incompatibility thesis has proven true of Pakistan, but not of India. The proportion of Muslims in India today is higher than the corresponding figure after partition. By contrast, the percentage of Hindus in Pakistan today is a fraction of the proportion in 1947.
The only glue binding the new country was religion. The ruling elite has traditionally viewed Pakistan as the custodian of all Islam – not just of the subcontinent’s Muslims. Many Pakistani Muslims believe that India was their patrimony from the Mughal Empire – stolen from them by the British, who bequeathed it to undeserving Hindus. This is why the leaders of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT – ‘Army of the Pure’) and the Jaish-e-Muhammed (JEM – the soldiers of Muhammed) dream of unfurling the Islamic green flag in the Red Fort in Delhi, as well as in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
In 1971, Islam proved insufficiently strong to hold the country together. That generation of the Pakistani elite neither accepted internal failures of governance as the primary cause of Bangladeshi secession, nor forgave India for being midwife to Bangladesh’s independence. The India threat validates the military’s size, power and influence – dwarfing all other institutions, establishing ascendance over all civilian competitors, and spreading its tentacles into virtually every aspect of Pakistan’s national affairs.
Traditionally, for Indians, the question is: What kind of Pakistan does India want? One that is on the brink of state collapse and failure, splintered into multiple centres of power, with large swathes of territory under the control of religious zealots and terrorists? Or, alternatively, a stable, democratic and economically powerful Pakistan, minus the influence of the three ‘Ms’: the military, militants and mullahs?
The answer is no longer straightforward. Previously, many said that having a nuclear Somalia for a neighbour would not be the end of India’s Pakistan problem, but rather the beginning of India’s woes. Yet, for over a decade, even as Pakistan has teetered on the brink of collapse and disintegration, and has been reduced to a bit player, India has prospered and emerged as a global player. Prakash Shah, India’s former UN ambassador, describes the belief that Pakistan’s stability is essential for India’s progress as one of several “flawed assumptions and myths of the 20th century on which our Pakistan policy is based.” G. Parthasarathy, former High Commissioner to Pakistan, rejects the claim that “a rising India cannot assert its rightful place in the comity of nations without good relations with Pakistan.” He believes that this is “factually incorrect,” and that this fallacious belief in turn “undermine Indian diplomacy” with the unnecessary hyphenation of India’s prospects with those of Pakistan: “We can ‘rise’ in the world with or without Pakistan’s cooperation.”
Islamabad’s record of double-dealing, deceit and denial of Pakistan-based attacks, in Afghanistan and India alike, has been based on four degrees of separation – between the government, the army, the ISI and terrorists – the plausibility of which is fading as it is exploited as a convenient alibi to escape accountability. That Pakistanis in general might harbour goodwill and friendships toward India is irrelevant if they have little say in making policy.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh – by instinct circumspect – has said that, “given the sophistication and military precision,” the Mumbai attacks “must have had the support of some official agencies in Pakistan.” The combination of training, selection and advance reconnaissance of targets, diversionary tactics, discipline, munitions, cryptographic communications, false IDs, and damage inflicted is more typically associated with special forces units than with terrorists.
At the heart of Pakistan’s emotional parity lies the ability to match India militarily. This could not have been done without alliance with the US to begin with, nor sustained subsequently without a de facto alliance with China – something that also allowed Pakistan to bring its own nuclear and missile programmes to fruition in 1998. Pakistan’s first nuclear weapon test was allegedly carried out for it on May 26th, 1990 by China.
With the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Pakistan’s three As converged. But yesterday’s anti-Soviet mujahideen in Afghanistan is today’s anti-Western jihadist everywhere. To Pakistan, control over Afghanistan – first through the mujahideen, and then via the Taliban – provided strategic depth against India, but also pitted it increasingly against Iran. The Saudi connection led to a spurt of madrassas spewing hatred against Jew, Christian and Hindu with equal venom. The army harnessed Islamism against civilian political parties at home to maintain control over Afghanistan and against India.
After 9/11, Islamabad abandoned the Taliban and joined the US war on terror. Yet, on the critical issues of fighting Islamic terrorism and promoting democracy, progress has been minimal, and the nightmare scenario of nuclear weapons coming under the control of Islamists has come ever closer to reality in Pakistan. According to respected US intelligence analyst Bruce Riedel, Pakistan today has the world’s fastest growing nuclear arsenal, as well as the most terrorists per square-mile. Indeed, classified cables published by Wikileaks include the revelation that, since 2007, the US has been engaged in unsuccessful efforts to remove from a Pakistani research reactor highly enriched uranium that could be diverted for use by terrorists in an illicit nuclear device.
US President Obama promised, but has failed to confront the core of Pakistani duplicity. If Pakistan successfully eliminates the threat of Islamists, its utility to Washington and the fear of the alternative would disappear. Pakistan would lose an asset after the US withdraws from Afghanistan. If it fails to show tangible progress, it will be punished. So, Islamabad has played both ends against the middle. However, because of internal contradictions, slowly but surely, Pakistan has descended into the failing state syndrome where the Koran and Kalashnikov culture reign supreme. Almost every incident of international terrorism, including 9/11 and the failed Times Square bombing in 2010, has had some significant link to Pakistan.
Against this backdrop, the 26/11 Mumbai attacks presented India with a policy dilemma of heads they win, tails we lose. If India failed to respond effectively to the terrorist threat originating from over the horizon, it could be kept bleeding at a cost-free policy of state-sponsored terrorism by Pakistan. But if India did respond with robust military action, then that would allow Pakistan’s army to break from fighting the Islamist militants – fighting that deepens the army’s unpopularity – assert dominance over the civilian government, regain the support of the people as the custodian of national sovereignty, and internationalize the bilateral dispute.
What, then, might be a way forward? First, Pakistan’s military must be brought under full civilian control. This cannot be done until the government accepts the reality of Pakistan being the de facto headquarters of world terrorism. If the Balkans produce more politics than they can consume, Pakistan produces more terrorism than can be exported. Serial attacks might wound India, but Pakistan itself could be consumed by blowback before India is destroyed.
The standard of proof for protection from foreign attacks cannot be the same as in national courts of law: ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ has a different connotation in the two contexts. British and American leaders have become progressively more plainspoken in pinning the responsibility for acts of international terrorism on Pakistan-based or -trained operatives. Still, official Pakistani spokesmen question the world’s double standards for silence over the ‘immense torture’ of innocent Kashmiris and the killings of children and women in Gaza, while exaggerating and raising a hue and cry over isolated incidents of terrorism, in India and elsewhere, with alleged links to Pakistan.
A second possible way forward – that of military and/or intelligence strikes on or in Pakistan – could be attempted if the establishment of civilian supremacy fails. The state of denial does not inspire confidence that Pakistan will depart significantly from its proven modus operandi of: initial denials; grudging acceptance in the face of incontrovertible evidence in due course; doing the absolute minimum necessary to absorb and deflect international pressure for action against the perpetrators; promises to stop future attacks; and then going back to business as usual.
India still has several options to explore before having to confront the need for some overt military or covert intelligence action. It could restrict commercial transport and tourist links with Pakistan; downgrade diplomatic relations; urge arms exporters not to sell armaments to Pakistan on pain of being blacklisted from bidding for lucrative Indian tenders; be more aggressive against Pakistan in international lending institutions; and press for escalating UN sanctions under anti-terrorism conventions and relevant Security Council resolutions. Like Ronald Reagan vis-à-vis the old Soviet Union, India could use its superior economic performance and potential to bankrupt a parity-obsessed Pakistan.
If these fail to yield demonstrable action and measurable progress within a reasonable timeframe, the question of unilateral action will become inescapable. Like the Americans firing missiles into Pakistan from unmanned drones, India could adopt the policy of taking the fight into neighbouring territory whence terrorism attacks originate. It could strike at the human leadership and material infrastructure of terrorism through surgical strikes and targeted assassinations. As India does not have such intelligence and military capabilities today, it could invest all means necessary to acquire them urgently. To be successful, the policy would have to be backed with the capability of escalation dominance: the enemy should know that any escalation from the limited strikes will bring even heavier punitive costs from a superior military force at every stage of the process.
For more than a decade, lacking a coherent vision or strategy on how to deal with the dilemma of quasi-official complicity in cross-border terrorism, and with flat official denial, India has, at best, managed to cobble together a muddled ‘shaming campaign’ against Pakistan as it solicits international censure of terrorism-tolerant postures by Pakistan. At worst, it elicits contempt and pity in India, Pakistan and overseas for hand-wringing appeals to others to sort out the mess in its own neighbourhood.
Terrorism is used by Pakistan as a continuation of war by other, safer and less costly means. A rising, increasingly self-confident and newly assertive India will learn to fashion a robust response within a clear vision and a hard-nosed strategy of turning terrorism back into warfare that imposes heavier penalties and damage.
Pakistan’s contributions to the war on terror on its western front are of lesser import than its fuelling of terrorism on its eastern front. Yet, the rewards for the former exceed penalties for the latter. Much of the cumulative US $20 billion (and counting) in military aid has been directed by Pakistan at India – not the Taliban. Indians seem more able to grasp the moral hazard of continuing and increased international aid to Pakistan being tantamount to Islamabad reaping a growing terrorist dividend. As Tavleen Singh argued recently in a recent Indian Express column, in effect, “American money finances terrorism against India in the hope that this will persuade Pakistan’s generals to eliminate the terrorist groups that work against the United States.”
India and the US, acting together, must reverse the structure of incentives and penalties. Failure by India to respond forcefully and effectively will embolden and inspire terrorist actors in Pakistan. Their sympathizers-cum-supporters inside the military and intelligence agencies will conclude that the benefits of: attacking high-value targets in India of political (parliament), commercial (financial capital), cultural (Jewish centres), religious (Hindu temples and festivals) and symbolic (iconic hotels) significance far outweigh pinprick costs. Echoing this argument in an article in the New York Times last fall, former US ambassador to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad wrote that “Washington must offer Islamabad a stark choice between positive incentives and negative consequences.”
There is no national or international security crisis so grave that it cannot be made worse by going to war – with a full range of unpredictable and perverse consequences. The first is the risk of military defeat, for only the battlefield can test a country’s investment in weaponry, equipment, training and doctrine against the likely enemies. Short of that, there are the risks of political and social upheavals in one’s own country, including heightened Hindu-Muslim tensions in any war with Pakistan. There are the matching risks of the domestic and policy consequences in Pakistan, including the strengthening of the military vis-à-vis the government and civil society, a nationalistic unity behind the government as it faces the historic enemy, a decision to reinvest in, and even expand, covert and clandestine assets and operations against India with the help of Islamist militants, and an escalation to a nuclear exchange, with all the attendant dangers.
To walk away from the aggressive option in perpetuity is to give free rein to Pakistan to engage in serial provocations as a low-cost, moderate-value, long-term strategy. Given these costs, risks and constraints, India’s fourfold policy imperative is: to institute new and effective security measures to deter, prevent and defeat terrorist attacks on its soil; develop intelligence capability to detect and disrupt plans for terrorist strikes; create a credible yet deniable capability to pre-empt or retaliate against attacks from beyond its borders; and avoid having to go to war by convincing Pakistan (and Washington) – through military modernization, doctrines and deployments – of its ability and determination to do so.
The newly forged will of steel, the wellsprings of political courage, and the shedding of the shibboleths of a soft state could also be utilized to protect Muslims from being massacred in Gujarat, Christians from being terrorized in Orissa, and Hindus from being ethnically cleansed in Kashmir. Moreover, if Pakistan is complicit in cross-border terrorism in South Asia today, India was guilty of playing the same dangerous game in the past with respect to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in Sri Lanka. All countries of the region should cooperate in ridding South Asia of the deadly virus of terrorism. This requires a united three-pronged approach of: robust and resolute action by the law enforcement agencies acting collaboratively to “disrupt, dismantle and defeat” terrorist plots and groups (to borrow President Obama’s language); efficient and credible criminal justice systems to hold them criminally accountable within the principles and institutions of the rule of law; and an urgent redress of group-based political grievances to reduce their motivation and also to cut off sympathy and support for certain terrorist groups from the community at large.

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personally i think we should handle situation carefully.

our best choice is > urge arms exporters not to sell armaments to Pakistan on pain of being blacklisted from bidding for lucrative Indian tenders;[/U] be more aggressive against Pakistan in international lending institutions; and press for escalating UN sanctions under anti-terrorism conventions and relevant Security Council resolutions.
 
i like the article , it shows a lot of misconceptions shared by both sides .
 
Oh can't vote as I don't know what's a multi proxi war.:hang2:

options are

1.multidimensional efforts of increasing strength,intelligence capability

2. counter proxy war

from where did you got multi proxy war option?
 
options are

1.multidimensional efforts of increasing strength,intelligence capability

2. counter proxy war


from where did you got multi proxy war option?

Oh sorry I mean counter proxy war.
 
Should we take US support with this whole PAK thing as we know that US backstabbed many countries in the past.
 
simply put we need to improve intelligence capabilities and have a fool proof system of preventing and dealing with terrorism that is supported by the ISI
 
Many Pakistani Muslims believe that India was their patrimony from the Mughal Empire – stolen from them by the British, who bequeathed it to undeserving Hindus. This is why the leaders of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT – ‘Army of the Pure’) and the Jaish-e-Muhammed (JEM – the soldiers of Muhammed) dream of unfurling the Islamic green flag in the Red Fort in Delhi, as well as in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
I think this part of the artical was extremely stupid . If they really belive this then Pakistan should also be a part of India as even Pak was stolen from India by Mughals:azn:
 
Many Pakistani Muslims believe that India was their patrimony from the Mughal Empire – stolen from them by the British, who bequeathed it to undeserving Hindus. This is why the leaders of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT – ‘Army of the Pure’) and the Jaish-e-Muhammed (JEM – the soldiers of Muhammed) dream of unfurling the Islamic green flag in the Red Fort in Delhi, as well as in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
I think this part of the artical was extremely stupid . If they really belive this then Pakistan should also be a part of India as even Pak was stolen from India by Mughals:azn:

author is right.

even on you tube i have seen vids showing Pakistani rule over India.

i believe Pakistanis ( not all ) have this view.
 
HERE'S ANOTHER NICE ARTICLE
INDIA’S RESPONSES TO PAKISTAN’S PROXY WAR AND TERRORISM: An Analysis
Pakistan for over a decade has engaged in an incessant proxy war and terrorism campaign against India. Successive Indian Governments of different political hues have stood frozen in incompetence to deal with Pakistan’s proxy war aggression. Had it not been for the selfless sacrifices and devotion of the Indian Army and Para-military forces, Pakistan would have achieved its strategic objectives by now.

India as a nation aspiring for a regional power status appears poor, politically and strategically, when Pakistan, fractional in size and resources has bled India successfully for the last ten years.

Pakistan stands emboldened to bleed and strategically taunt India due to a combination of these factors:

* India’s inability and restraint in not inflicting military strikes on Pakistan and initiating a counter-proxy war in Pakistan to restrain that nation's military adventurism.

* Pakistan’s assumption that its nuclear weapons secure it against any Indian military options.

* Pakistan’s smugness that United States and China would secure Pakistan against India in all eventualities.


It is the first factor which needs deeper analysis in this paper as the other two stand analysed in my earlier papers. More importantly, one needs to discover and analyse as to what all is encompassed in this factor which has paralysed India’s ineffective responses to Pakistan’s proxy war and terrorism.

Pak proxy war intentions are strategic and wider- Its Intent is Not Kashmir Alone: Pakistan’s proxy . The intentions are not Kashmir-specific or focus on Kashmir alone. Pakistan’s proxy war and terrorism and associated ISI onslaughts against India emerge from a smaller nation's strategy of bleeding a major adversary by asymmetric warfare.

This is a point which is sorely missed or not emphasized by India’s political leaders. The Indian press and electronic media, in the absence of strategic thought, keep on viewing and projecting Pakistan’s proxy war in Kashmir-specific terms alone. In the process they grossly distort the issue both at home and abroad with the latter damaging India’s image.

India needs to understand that given the constant of India’s size and resources, Pakistan’s strategic aim would be to confine India within the straitjacket of growing internal security threats, not confined to Kashmir alone. As a noted Pakistani political analyst, Hasan-Askari Rizvi has put it: “India’s dominance model is anathema to Pakistan, whose leadership strongly believes that a New-Delhi -centered regional system cannot serve as a basis for durable peace in South Asia.”

Pakistan’s military adventurism, arising from the above impulses, can only be restrained by military firmness and assertion, counter proxy war in Pakistan, economic warfare and institutionalized dynamic diplomacy.

Pakistan’s Proxy War- Its Nature: Pakistan’s proxy war against India has the following distinctive features:

* Pakistan’s chosen state - instrument for its proxy war against India is distinctly religious in nature. “Islamic Jehad” is the instrument being used against India. Every conceivable Islamic fundamentalist organizations, whether the Pakistani or Pan-Islamic like the Al Qaeda stand commandeered by Pakistan to inflict damage on the Indian nation state.

* Jammu and Kashmir and specifically the Kashmir Valley with its high percentage of Muslims was chosen as the initial target.

*Target areas, thereafter have spread to other such places- Gujarat, Bombay, Hyderabad, Bangalore and Coimbatore.

* Lately in a bid to fan communal riots, Pakistan started targeting Hindu places of worship all over the country.

India’s political leaders and the Indian media should not shirk from terming Pakistan’s proxy war and terrorism as “ Islamic Jehad”. If the media cannot make this distinction nor India’s self-professed secularists, India’s Muslims can be relied upon to make the distinction as to how the holy name of Islam is being exploited by Pakistan for its insidious games.

Pakistan’s “Proxy War is War” And Not a Freedom Movement: Policy makers in the West and all those who clamour for “ Human Rights for Terrorists” and oppose India’s laws to cope with terrorism (POTA eg) must realize that:

* Pakistan’ proxy war against India is a full fledged war aimed at the disintegration of the Indian nation state.

* Islamic Jehadis launched by Pakistan, whether in Jammu and Kashmir, Gujarat, Kolkata or New Delhi Parliament House are engaged in a proxy war and not in any freedom movement.

* Islamic Jehadis sponsored by Pakistan are neither covered by the Geneva conventions on Prisoners of War nor do they qualify for any human rights protection under the Indian Constitution. Even any Indian so involved forfeits that protection when he wages war against the Indian Constitution.

India’s National Human Rights Commission and the Indian Governance Apparatus must be alive to the fact that their national security obligations outweigh any literal interpretation of laws, which in any case are not applicable to those outside the law.

Pakistan’s Proxy War is a Military Problem Not a Political Problem: India’s responses to Pakistan’s proxy war would emerge with more clarity once the Indian Government makes this important distinction.

Pakistan’s aims have all along been strategic. Jammu and Kashmir provided a lucrative target to begin the proxy war because Pakistan could add the colouration of a liberation movement and confuse the issue, internationally. Pakistan successfully camouflaged its strategic proxy war against India by the Kashmir label and distorted both Indian and international perceptions.

Since Pakistan’s proxy war is a war and a war alone, the following needs to be emphasized:

*Pakistan’s proxy war merits a military response, being an armed conflict launched by it. India’s national security imperatives therefore would demand a military response. Options can be debated.

* United States and Britain need to understand that if they can demand regime change in Iraq, India has far stronger reasons for military intervention to end Pakistan’s proxy war.

*United States Track II Diplomacy and behind the –scenes diplomacy in the last 10 years have had no effect on Pakistan.

India’s Counter-Proxy War and Covert Actions in Pakistan: Pakistan needs to be given a taste of its own medicine. Pakistan’s own provinces of Sindh, Baluchistan and NWFP are restive. Movements for secession exist. In the frontier provinces, money can buy anything. The United States too used money extensively during the Afghanistan military intervention. India could also use all means to carry proxy war back home to Pakistan.

Conflict Resolution Measures have Failed –What next?

In the last ten years the following measures for conflict prevention have failed:

* Summit level dialogues by India with Pakistan’s civil and military leaders.

* United States Track II Diplomacy.

* Former President Clinton’s chastising of Pakistan on their soil itself.

* Flurry of Bush Administration dignitaries' visits counseling Pakistan for restraint.

* India’s military coercion of Pakistan through full-scale mobilization.

The entire spectrum of conflict resolution, conflict prevention and conflict management by India and externally by the United States has not borne fruit. India has to painfully arrive at the conclusion that either it has to go for an all out war or carry the proxy war to Pakistan’s territory.

India’s Will to Use Power: The Indian nation state once again seems to be slipping into the strategic inaction, of the days gone by and running to find the first soft strategic option.

The continued lack of will to use power by India in the last 54 years of its existence has led to enfeebled responses to the likes of Pakistan, boldly in continuance of its proxy war and unmindful to even external coercion.

India as a nation yearns for its leadership to be strong and capable of having the will to use India’s tremendous reservoir of power.:coffee:
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/\papers6\paper555.html
 
author is right.

even on you tube i have seen vids showing Pakistani rule over India.

i believe Pakistanis ( not all ) have this view.
Really I thought he's making it up all by himself . Stupid isn't it.:cheesy:
 
Really I thought he's making it up all by himself . Stupid isn't it.:cheesy:

who is stupid?

have a good look at another article written by same author whose article you posted.
 
South Asia Analysis Group

Paper no. 312

11. 09. 2001







COUNTER PROXY WAR

by B.Raman

Afghanistan marked an important landmark in the evolution of covert action techniques. It was a proxy war, partly overt, partly covert, to make the Soviet troops bleed through the use of surrogates, without the direct involvement of US troops.

Conscious encouragement of religious fanaticism was for the first time used as a covert action tool. Whereas the past covert actions of the Western intelligence agencies were projected in ideological terms (democracy vs Communism), those in Afghanistan were projected in religious terms (Islam vs Communism). Jehad was brought out of the closet of medieval times and sought to be used against the evil empire of Communism, without a careful examination of its long-term implications for peace and stability in the world.

In their eagerness to take full advantage of the entrapment of the Soviet troops in Afghanistan, the Western intelligence agencies reverted to the pre-1970s concepts, which viewed any means as good means for achieving a national security objective. Even the production and smuggling of heroin were encouraged to make the proxy-war at least partly self-financing and to promote addiction amongst Soviet troops.

As a result of these ill-advised actions, Islamic jehad has become a multi-headed hydra, striking here, striking there and striking everywhere and no country, which has a sizeable Muslim population, has been able to escape its ravages. The Islam vs Communism clash has been replaced by an Islam vs Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism clash.

Let there be no mistake about it. The long-term objective of Pakistan's Army of Islam vis-à-vis India is no longer the acquisition of territory in J & K. It is to make the sub-continent safe for the spread of Islam by weakening Hinduism, by debilitating the Indian State and thereby paving the way for the restoration of the Mughal State. This is an illusion, but illusions can cost lives and suffering. India has been the target of a religious war, which is not going to end with the resolution of the Kashmir issue. What is in danger is not just the future of J & K as an integral part of India, but the future of India itself as a secular, politically pluralistic and economically prosperous State.

Pakistan's objective of debilitating the Indian State, which is the driving force behind its proxy war, is not of recent origin dating from its experience of its successful (as perceived by it) role in the Afghan war of the 1980s. This has nothing to do with the two-nation theory; this has nothing to do with the so-called unfinished agenda of the Partition of 1947, as Pakistan describes its quest for J & K, by hook or by crook.

It has everything to do with a mindset, riddled with complexes, which is marked by a permanent hostility to India, by a compulsive urge to take advantage of every difficulty faced by India and to keep the Indian Security Forces bleeding and by a burning desire to prevent, by every manner possible, the emergence of India as a major regional power.

It was this mindset, which was at work in the North-East before 1971, in the Punjab thereafter and in J & K since 1989. Pakistan's proxy war against India dates back to the 1950s, when it started training and arming the Naga hostiles. It suspended it after the humiliating defeat of its Army in 1971 and started it again --this time in Punjab-- after Gen.Zia-ul-Haq seized power in 1977.

What is new about the latest phase of its proxy war in J & K and other parts of India is the use against the Indian Security Forces of the expertise, the experience and the arms and ammunition and other tools acquired by it under the supervision of the CIA in Afghanistan. What is equally new is the use of the clandestine Army of Islam of the Afghan War vintage, without the direct involvement of its Army of the State.

The diversion of this Army of Islam from the battlefields of Afghanistan to J & K serves three purposes, in Pakistan's perception:

* It keeps the Indian Security Forces and civilians bleeding without the Pakistani Security Forces suffering any casualties.
* It keeps the fanatical jehadis dying at the hands of the Indian Security Forces, thereby preventing their return to Pakistan and clamouring for the imposition of a Taliban-type rule there. In the Pakistan Army's perception, the longer the jehadis are kept fighting and dying in Indian territory, the longer it would be able to prevent a possible Talibanisation of Pakistan.

* It provides a training and motivating force and a training ground for Muslim extremist elements from other parts of India such as the cadres of the Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) just as it had functioned in the 1980s as a training and motivating force in Afghanistan for Muslims from Muslim and non-Muslim States wanting to take up arms against the State.

The post-1989 phase of Pakistan's proxy war has an overt as well as a covert component. The overt component relates to its political, moral and diplomatic support to the indigenous Kashmiri organisations, its orchestration of the All-Parties Hurriyat Conference, its Psywar against India on the human rights and other issues and its attempts to internationalise the issue. The covert component is about its letting loose its Army of Islam against the Indian Security Forces and civilians.

The Pakistan Army thinks that its demonstrated nuclear and missile capability has insured it against a retaliatory response from the Indian Security Forces due to the fears of the Indian leadership that retaliation could degenerate into a regular warfare. Its feeling of having acquired a psychological asymmetric advantage over India due to the nuclear factor has given it a confidence that it can persist with its proxy war at no cost to itself.

In the absence of a meaningful and effective response from our side, it is India, which has been bleeding at the hands of this Army of Islam, with the Pakistan Army remaining untouched. Unless and until the Pakistan Army is made to realise that a proxy war is a game which two can play and that India can play it more effectively and conclusively than Pakistan, there is going to be no respite from the ravages of this war.

Till now, we have been restricting ourselves to the conventional counter-terrorism strategy based on the principle of passive defence in our own territory in response to Pakistan's proxy war. This strategy has not brought this war to an end and is unlikely to do so. We have to adopt a counter proxy war strategy based on the principle of active defence through a mix of overt and covert actions. UN declarations and international laws and practice justify the adoption of an active defence strategy by a State against another State which seeks to use terrorism as a weapon to achieve its strategic objective.

State-sponsors of terrorism generally tend to project the terrorist groups backed by them as "freedom-fighters", just as Gen. Musharraf has been doing since he captured power on October 12,1999. How to differentiate between terrorists and freedom-fighters is one of the questions considered by President Reagan's Special Task Force on Terrorism headed by Mr. George Bush (Sr), his Vice-President and the father of the present President. It said that while freedom-fighters confined their attacks only to Security Forces, who were in a position to defend themselves, terrorists were those who killed innocent civilians. It defined a State-sponsor of terrorism as a State "supplying money, weapons, training, identification documents, travel documents, or safehaven for terrorists."

The USA's Department of Defence Directive 2000.12 issued in 1996, finetuned the definition of terrorism in order to bring under its ambit acts directed against civilians as well as security forces. Its definition of terrorism is as follows:" Unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property, with the intention of coercing or intimidating governments or societies, often for political or ideological purposes."

It laid down the following other definitions:

* International (or Transnational) Terrorism Terrorism in which planning and execution of the terrorist act transcends national boundaries. In defining international terrorism, the purpose of the act, the nationalities of the victims, or the resolution of the incident are considered. Those acts are usually planned to attract widespread publicity and are designed to focus attention on the existence, cause, or demands of the terrorists.
* Non-State Supported Terrorism Terrorist groups that operate autonomously, receiving no significant support from any Government.

* State-Directed Terrorism Terrorist groups that operate as agents of a Government, receiving substantial intelligence, logistical, and operational support from the sponsoring Government.

* State-Supported Terrorism Terrorist groups that generally operate independently, but receive support from one or more Governments.

The State Department's report on the Patterns of Global Terrorism during 2000 has further expanded the definition of terrorism to bring under its ambit even attacks on military installations. It said: "We also consider as acts of terrorism attacks on military installations or on armed military personnel when a state of military hostilities does not exist at the site."

A Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in Accordance with the Charter of the UN approved by the UN General Assembly on October 24,1970, has laid down that "every State has the duty to refrain from organising, instigating, assisting or participating in acts of civil strife or terrorist acts in another State or acquiescing in organised activities within its territory directed towards the commission of such acts."

Subsequently, while speaking during a debate on another Declaration on the strengthening of International Security, which was passed as Resolution No. 2734 on December 16,1970, delegates from the USA, the UK, Canada, Italy, Australia, Japan and the then USSR described the sponsoring by a State of acts of terrorism against another State as indirect aggression.

The right of a victim-State to defend itself against such indirect aggression by the use of appropriate conventional as well as non-conventional means was underlined in an address delivered by Mr. George Shultz, the then US Secretary of State, after the signing on April 3,1984, by President Reagan of a National Security Directive on this subject and again later in a foreword contributed by Mr.Bush Sr to a study on Terrorist Group Profiles in November, 1988.

Mr.Schultz described State-sponsored terrorism as a new form of warfare and said that the success of diplomatic options in dealing with State-sponsors of terrorism would depend on the readiness of the victim-State to hit back, through conventional military and non-conventional clandestine means if the diplomatic options failed. He, therefore, expressed the determination of the US to follow a strategy of active defence, that is, taking the counter-terrorism operations into the territory or against the interests of the State-sponsor of terrorism, if left with no other alternative.

In his Foreword, Mr.Bush Sr reiterated the determination of the US to demonstrate to State-sponsors of terrorism that their actions would not be cost-free.

Even though international law and practice thus give us the right of active defence against Pakistan, we have not exercised it even once. We do not have even after so many years a credible counter proxy war strategy to demonstrate to Pakistan that its proxy war will not be cost-free.

Is it any wonder that Gen.Musharraf behaves towards us with such impudence? There is not even a sense of outrage in us as was seen by the way we fell over each other in welcoming and lionising him when he came to India for the Agra summit in July,2001. Nations, which become incapable of feeling a sense of indignation and anger when attacked and let their will and readiness to retaliate, when warranted by circumstances, be weakened by misplaced forbearance invite greater aggression. Perceived over-anxiety for peace with a State-sponsor of terrorism does not lead to peace. It leads to only more violence and more suffering for innocent people.

A credible counter proxy war strategy against Pakistan has to have an overt and a covert component. The overt component relates to extending political, moral and diplomatic support to the alienated sections of ***************** Kashmir (***) and the Northern Areas (NA) in their agitations/ struggle against the Government of Pakistan. Islamabad goes to the world promptly with exaggerated accounts of every incident taking place in J & K in order to keep the issue constantly in the media and before international public opinion. At the same time, it has imposed a virtual iron curtain on developments in *** and the NA in order to keep world media and public opinion in the dark about the real situation there.

For nearly two years the world was not aware of the massacre of the Shias in Gilgit in 1988 by the tribal hordes of bin Laden instigated by Musharraf. The world was ignorant of the demonstrations all over *** in 2000 against the proposal of the military junta to raise the height of the Mangla dam to benefit the farmers of Punjab. The Amnesty International's report on the Pakistani ban on pro-independence groups/individuals contesting elections in *** has hardly received any publicity.

The policies followed by the Zia and the Musharraf regimes of settling Punjabi and Pathan ex-servicemen in the NA in order to weaken the nationalist forces there are hardly known even in the rest of Pakistan. The outbreak of sectarian riots in Gilgit in the second fortnight of June before Musharraf's visit to India and the way, after Agra, Musharraf forced the *** Assembly to elect Maj. Gen. Mohammad Anwar Khan, the Vice Chief of the General Staff in the GHQ, as the President of the *** after he had prematurely retired from the Army to contest the election have not been brought to the attention of the world.

The world does not know that the *** Assembly does not have any financial powers, that the budgets are prepared in Islamabad, that the Chief Secretary and other senior officials of the NA are either Punjabis or Pathans, that the people of the NA have never participated in the elections to Pakistan's National Assembly and that they are governed even today as the frontier tribals of British India were before independence by the Frontier Crime Regulations promulgated by the British colonial masters, under which no native of the NA can move from one village or city to another without the permission of the police and has to register himself or herself with the police during such movements.

After 1988, a number of new organisations came up in the *** and the NA demanding greater democracy, autonomy and even independence, but the ISI has ruthlessly suppressed them keeping their leaders under detention without trial. Those, who escaped arrest, are living in exile abroad.

India claims that the entire J & K as it existed before August 15,1947, is an integral part of India and, yet, our political leadership, bureaucracy and public opinion have taken no interest in the plight of the peoples there and in bringing to the attention of the world what has been happening behind the iron curtain erected by Islamabad.

One has the impression that New Delhi is as ignorant about the state of affairs on the other side of the Line of Control (LOC) as the rest of the world. It has taken little notice of the emerging new leadership in the *** and the NA and has avoided interactions with the political exiles from these areas living abroad. No attempt has been made to better organise them in their struggle against Islamabad. We have every moral right to do so if we consider the *** and the NA as rightfully belonging to us.

This tragic neglect has to be put an end to as part of the overt component of the proposed counter proxy war policy. What should be the contours of the covert component cannot be discussed in a study like this, but certain points can be flagged. It has to be based on a recognition of certain ground realities such as the following:

* Ideas such as the right of hot pursuit, raids on training camps across the LOC etc will not work. Hot pursuit can work against terrorists/insurgents indulging in hit and run raids from rear bases across the border. There cannot be any hot pursuit of terrorists operating from shelters inside our territory and against suicide bombers. The question of raids on training camps across the LOC does not arise because the camps are located on either side of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and not in the *** or the NA.
* Covert actions against the Pakistani interests in the *** and the NA would be difficult because of the strong presence of a Punjabi-Pathan component (mostly ex-servicemen) in the local population. Even before 1947, the present *** had a strong Punjabi presence and this has increased since then due to the systematic resettling of Punjabi and Pathan ex-servicemen. The NA had very little Punjabi-Pathan component before 1947 except in the areas in the proximity of the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP). Today, Punjabis and Pathans are economically dominant, though not yet numerically.

* Pakistan has the advantages of terrain and local support in this region and, therefore, will be able to frustrate any covert actions without serious difficulties.

* Hence, the epicentre of the covert component of any counter proxy war policy has to be largely outside the *** and the NA, in areas where we will have the advantages of ground conditions and local support. We have to carefully choose the terrain, which will hurt Pakistan and hurt it badly.

Before drafting and implementing an effective counter proxy war policy, we have to pose to ourselves certain questions, which have rarely been posed till now, or if posed, rarely been answered keeping in view the imperatives of national security. The more important of these questions are:

* Is it in India's interest to ensure that the law and order situation in Pakistan continues to be as bad as ever thereby deterring foreign investment?
* Is it in India's interest to do any thing, such as the normalisation of the bilateral trade, which might help Pakistan come out of its economic difficulties?

* Is it in India's interest that the unbridgeable sectarian divide in Pakistan strengthens demands for an independent Shia State?

* Is it in India's interest that the movements of the non-Punjabi nationalities of Pakistan for a genuine confederation, if not independence, succeeds?

* Is it in India's interest that the movement for the restoration of democracy with the Army returning to the barracks with no political role gathers momentum and succeeds?

* Is it in India's interest that Pakistan remains inextricably trapped in the black hole of Afghanistan?

* Is it in India's interest that the swarming Mullas and their organisations continue to drag Pakistan back into the past, thereby making it an unwelcome proposition either as an ally or as a friend or as an investment destination?

You find the right answers to these questions and you will have the right mix of the covert component of our counter proxy war strategy. The careful drafting of the strategy has to be entrusted to a special task force on a time-bound basis. Once the strategy is adopted, its implementation has to be the responsibility of a counter proxy war centre in the external intelligence establishment.

We have till now treated our intelligence agencies essentially as intelligence collection, analysis and assessment agencies and not given them an adequate covert action/counter proxy war capability. This capability is an urgent need.

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/\papers4\paper312.html
 
who is stupid?

have a good look at another article written by same author whose article you posted.

Arre bhai I was calling those LET JEM and SOME pak people stupid who think like this as even PAK was INDIA'S part once so by the same reason even we should do the same thing.
 

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