India, Russia to embark on $45 bln nuclear energy roadmap

[MilSpec]

Problem with offshore wind farms is that in our region we face many storms and threats like tsunami which could damage them and cost us millions.

There are locations off the southern coast, arabian sea and IN Ocean, which can be used, and haven't seen such drastic weather patterns in last 100 years. There can be safeguards built into the system Tsunamis donot have extreme effect untill they hit land mass.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

OH MY GOD ! 45 billion dollars

 

[mastaan]

I work for a wind turbine mfg for REPOWER systems, the project is Thornton Bank Phase II, Belgium.

48 meter, 62.5 meter and eventually 78 meter blades producing 6M, 7.6M and eventually ~9MW per turbine.

wow... those sound like pretty big rotor diameters... and that's a German company

and where did you hear about the 7.6 and 9MW machines... Have heard about a Siemens 7MW machine, but nothing more

 

[MilSpec]

wow... those sound like pretty big rotor diameters... and that's a German company

Our 48m and 62.5 blades are 3 piece modular, hence are not nightmare in logistical support. Apart from that, we are right now planning a 100 m blade in next three years. Hopefully will be GL certified in 5 years.

 

[mastaan]

Our 48m and 62.5 blades are 3 piece modular, hence are not nightmare in logistical support. Apart from that, we are right now planning a 100 m blade in next three years. Hopefully will be GL certified in 5 years.

Who told you that Modular blades are already in use in offshore? That is not correct information.

and where did you hear about the 7.6 and 9MW machines... Have heard about a Siemens 7MW machine, but nothing more... Any credible source???

 

[Yeti]

There are locations off the southern coast, arabian sea and IN Ocean, which can be used, and haven't seen such drastic weather patterns in last 100 years. There can be safeguards built into the system Tsunamis donot have extreme effect untill they hit land mass.

Im sure we can find suitable spots that are less risky and there is many benefits to wind farms but I have no idea on the costing. Also I found this article where a Dutch study finds birds avoid offshore wind turbines, while marine life finds shelter and new habitats so from a environmental view it not only is safe but could have added benefit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/11/offshore-wind-farms-good-wildlife

 

[xyxmt]

Uncle will be mad, real mad

 

[MilSpec]

Who told you that Modular blades are already in use in offshore? That is not correct information.

and where did you hear about the 7.6 and 9MW machines... Have heard about a Siemens 7MW machine, but nothing more... Any credible source???

We build modular blades, we are the pioneers in the system. Our 45M just got GL certification an is in the process of installation as we speak. 61.2M is done with pre tests and awaiting GL test procedure. I wont disclose the company i work for on the forum.

Im sure we can find suitable spots that are less risky and there is many benefits to wind farms but I have no idea on the costing. Also I found this article where a Dutch study finds birds avoid offshore wind turbines, while marine life finds shelter and new habitats so from a environmental view it not only is safe but could have added benefit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/11/offshore-wind-farms-good-wildlife

Sir ji, the cabon foorprint we are leaving is unbearable. Earth has a brutal way of balancing things out for herself, lets not push her to that. Renewable energy is a must.

 

[mastaan]

We build modular blades, we are the pioneers in the system. Our 48M just got GL certification an is in the process of installation as we speak. 62M is done with pre tests and awaiting GL test procedure. I wont disclose the company i work for on the forum.

Don't want to pick up a fight.. But, Modular Blades are 'under' design and certification phases by multiple companies. But, there is no single large farm with running modular blades. I would love to be proven wrong by a credible public source... Never asked you about your company (that was meant to be a joke)

 

[Yeti]

Wind Turbines are built to survive high severity storms and that was proved recently when a big storm hit the east coast of US and only one or two machines went down physically... These are engineering marvels mate and have the survivability better than your normal coal plant and being modular, the risk of one or two machines going down makes it much more bearable risk than a whole gas, coal or nuclear plant shut down... You should really see how Germany has been transformed by these wind turbines... they are all over the place and large companies are changing their supply mix actually... Have done a detailed study for a large utility and I can tell you, Wind is here to stay and offshore will grow like crazy, once infra problems around grid availability in high seas is resolved...

Only problem having them on land in massive numbers for India is they are a damn eyesore and also we will face big problems in obtaining land for them but in offshore wind farms we would not have those issues.

 

[El Weirdo]

I think solar energy is the future for India as the cost will become lower and whole villages can be powered using the sun we should invest more in this technology.

I was trying to convince myself to get a Solar Panel in my parents House. So I decided some google searching.
I was very disheartened by the findings..
In Brief - The cost of Solar Energy willl run in Lakhs in India a.t.m. and by the time a person wil start getting `money back` from it . 15-20 years down the line , it will be timne to change the Solar Panels..
So atm I dont think its a viable option.. now thats what I read a few months ago.
But I clearly remember back in 1996 we went to Banglore with my family for vacations and Solar Panels were quite common there..
May be someone with more info can halp me out here????

 

[Yeti]

@sandy_3126 I agree with you 100% on the need for Renewable energy but what about solar energy? the costs are becoming lower and we have direct access to the sun all day long and people can even sell electricity back to government if they have surplus that they not using.

 

[MilSpec]

Don't want to pick up a fight.. But, Modular Blades are 'under' design and certification phases by multiple companies. But, there is no single large farm with running modular blades. I would love to be proven wrong by a credible public source... Never asked you about your company (that was meant to be a joke)

relax, I am happy that atleast somebody takes interest in wind turbines.
We are not running the farm currently, we are currently in the process of supplying the modular blades to repower for multiple projects. I am the chief test engineer for the company and we have proven better static and fatigue results than the conventional design and gone through GL and IEC certification for our 45M blade. Our first tower of the 15 assigned in belgium is coming up this quarter. Our prodution o/p is still low, but we intend to deliver the entire project in next two quarters (fingers crossed). There is another company in texas which is trying 2 piece mod blades for GE and their blades will be up on the towers by next year in oklahoma.

 

[Yeti]

I was trying to convince myself to get a Solar Panel in my parents House. So I decided some google searching.
I was very disheartened by the findings..
In Brief - The cost of Solar Energy willl run in Lakhs in India a.t.m. and by the time a person wil start getting `money back` from it . 15-20 years down the line , it will be timne to change the Solar Panels..
So atm I dont think its a viable option.. now thats what I read a few months ago.
But I clearly remember back in 1996 we went to Banglore with my family for vacations and Solar Panels were quite common there..
May be someone with more info can halp me out here????

I want to find more information also and your right costs need to be brought down but also we need to invest more in R&D for this to happen.

I found this article its 1 day old but its more to do with national solar parks instead of solar panels for everyday consumers wishing to install at home.


Business Line : Opinion : How to support solar power projects


Rooftop systems

With regard to promoting grid connected rooftop solar PV in urban India, a national policy on net metering to encourage in situ generation, primarily for self consumption should be brought forth.

Consumer tariffs of commercial and high-end residential consumers in many States are already high enough (or will soon be) to incentivise them to shift to solar. Hence the option of in situ generation for self-consumption, which is more socially equitable and financially viable in comparison to subsidising such systems through budgetary capital grants needs to be promoted.

 

[MilSpec]

@sandy_3126 I agree with you 100% on the need for Renewable energy but what about solar energy? the costs are becoming lower and we have direct access to the sun all day long and people can even sell electricity back to government if they have surplus that they not using.

If I was in India I would have cast my vote whoever ensured, solar, wind, tidal and geo-thermal sources for energy.

45 billion is too much, sometimes we forget the value of these billions. Nuclear fuel, coal, oil costs a lot more. Wind farms/ solar farms although have higher setup costs, in the long run they are goldmines.