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India-Russia defence deals face US sanctions as Donald Trump tries to punish Vladimir Putin
Under a law that U.S. President Donald Trump signed in August, any country trading with Russia`s defence and intelligence sectors will face sanctions.

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Apr 25, 2018, 06:46 AM IST
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NEW DELHI: U.S. sanctions on Russian military exports have put the brakes on a $6 billion deal with India and may derail the arms purchases of other U.S. allies around Asia, experts say.

Under a law that U.S. President Donald Trump signed in August, any country trading with Russia`s defence and intelligence sectors will face sanctions.

The law is designed to punish Russian President Vladimir Putin for the 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine, involvement in the Syrian civil war and meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
But American allies who buy weapons and equipment from Russia, the world`s second-largest arms exporter, could suffer as well.

The highest-profile example is India, which wants to buy five S-400 long-range surface-to-air missile systems that the country`s military sees as a game changer. The systems are touted as being able to counter the ballistic missiles and stealth aircraft that China is developing, while overwhelming the capabilities of Pakistan, India`s other main adversary.

The deal, which Putin and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi struck as part of an inter-government agreement in 2016, has run headlong into the U.S. sanctions law, two officials in Delhi said.

Indonesia and Vietnam also buy weapons from Russia while being regional partners of the United States. Jakarta closed a $1.14 billion pact for Sukhoi fighters recently, while Vietnam is seeking more jet fighter-bombers from Russia.

And with both Almaz-Antey Air and Space Defense Corporation, which makes the S-400, and Rosoboronexport, which negotiates Russian export deals, listed as under sanction, those deals have become trickier.

"The optics of a major arms purchase from Russia looks quite `iffy` from the point of view of Western capitals, especially at a time when Russia-West relations are at an all-time low and India seeks strategic convergence with the West, including with the U.S." said Abhijnan Rej, a defence strategy expert at Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi think tank.

The U.S.-led airstrikes this month against facilities of the Syrian government, an ally of Russia, has further aggravated tensions between the superpowers.

A Russian source close to the Indian S-400 deal said "a lot will depend on the confidence and sanity of our Indian partners."

WIDER IMPACT

The effects of the U.S. sanctions law could be more sweeping than intended, said Cara Abercrombie, a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Vietnam, whose air force flies Russian-made Su-30 fighters and uses the S-300 air defence system, wants to continue modernising its inventory.

Vietnamese military scholar Carl Thayer said he believed Moscow was still pushing Hanoi to invest in state-of-the-art S-400 missile defences as part of its long-term military plans.

"I think it is clear that Russia is still pressing Vietnam for big deals," Thayer said, noting that the two countries already have had reciprocal visits by defence ministers this year.

But with the United States working hard to promote sales of American military hardware, and sanctions against Russia`s exporting agencies, Vietnam`s plans could prove overly costly.

Indonesia, meanwhile, said the delivery of the first couple of Sukhoi Su-35 jets out of a total of 11 is on track for this year. Officials said that so far they did not anticipate any changes to the deal with the Russians.

Indonesian defence officials declined to describe what, if anything, they might do to tackle the fallout of the sanctions imposed on Russian arms sales.

A THORNY PROBLEM

Indian Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale and Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra held discussions with U.S. officials in Washington last month to try to find a solution, a second Indian official said.

The issue is crucial to the Indian military, because without Russian parts, supplies and maintenance help, "our ships won’t sail, our planes won’t fly," the official said. "We can hardly be the regional security provider that America wants us to be at this rate."

One way to avoid secondary sanctions would be if the U.S. determines that India is reducing its dependence on Russian arms, said Atman Trivedi, managing director of Hills & Company, a Washington-based firm that advises on international trade and investment.

Russian hardware represented 62 percent of the country`s total weapons imports during the past five years, compared with 79 percent in 2008-2012, the Stockholm Peace Research Institute said in a report last month.

The U.S. administration could also declare that imposing sanctions on India, a major defence partner, would hurt U.S. national security interests. That would allow a waiver permitting India to do business with Russia.

The United States has emerged as India`s No. 2 weapons supplier, closing $15 billion worth of deals over the last decade. Now Lockheed Martin and Boeing are leading the race to provide India with a fleet of new fighter-bombers, one of the world`s largest open tenders.

"The intent of the legislation was never to disrupt U.S.-India defence relations, which Congress has repeatedly recognised in law as a strategic priority to the U.S.," said Benjamin Schwartz, aerospace and defence head at United States India Business Council.

Abercrombie of Carnegie added that if Congress grants waivers to India, it may also need to do so for other countries such as Vietnam and Indonesia.

"The bottom line: India warrants an exemption from these secondary sanctions, as does any country with which the U.S. is forging new and strategically important defence relations," she said.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/some...ire-of-sanctions-on-russian-arms-2102776.html
 
A Russian source close to the Indian S-400 deal said "a lot will depend on the confidence and sanity of our Indian partners."

I expect Modi to cancel the s-400 deal like he did with FGFA deal.

lolzzzz trump is a lost case crazy

Actually this is a very clever move. Now, most of the Indo-Russian deals that are in progress would be cancelled and replaced with Indo-US deals.

FGFA deal would with replaced with F-35

S-400 with Patriot/THAAD

MIG-29 with F-18

Kornet with Javelin etc...
 
I expect Modi to cancel the s-400 deal like he did with FGFA deal.



Actually this is a very clever move. Now, most of the Indo-Russian deals that are in progress would be cancelled and replaced with Indo-US deals.

FGFA deal would with replaced with F-35

S-400 with Patriot/THAAD

MIG-29 with F-18

Kornet with Javelin etc...
Are these some of your wet farts or do you always live in delusion?

Modi would've gone to procure F-16/18 off the shelf rather than going with 36 Rafales if he really wanted to suck American balls.

If we would go with F-35, we're gonna be the last one to receive em where the entire negotiation process would take around a decade and we end up receiving our first jet in 2035-2040 by the time US, China, Russia would move on to 6th gen and maybe even pak will have a couple of 5th gen squadrons.

I'm also sure US would compel us to procure 100+ F-16/18 to offer the F-35. Moreover, IA/IAF never fantasized American defense systems and there have been reports that Patriot/THAAD are prone to malfunctions and mostly duds. I'm sure India would rather rely on indigenously developed defense systems or go with Israeli options.

Javelin maybe the only probable option after the cancellation of Spike deal but MoD is pushing to induct Nag ATGM after it has been proved successful in it's recent tests

https://qz.com/1240887/the-patriot-...and-misses-but-raytheon-still-makes-billions/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1138790
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...5-jets-over-repair-cost-dispute-idUSKBN1HI304
https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/indias-new-anti-tank-guided-missile-destroys-2-tanks-in-test/
 
Are these some of your wet farts or do you always live in delusion?

Modi would've gone to procure F-16/18 off the shelf rather than going with 36 Rafales if he really wanted to suck American balls.

If we would go with F-35, we're gonna be the last one to receive em where the entire negotiation process would take around a decade and we end up receiving our first jet in 2035-2040 by the time US, China, Russia would move on to 6th gen and maybe even pak will have a couple of 5th gen squadrons.

I'm also sure US would compel us to procure 100+ F-16/18 to offer the F-35. Moreover, IA/IAF never fantasized American defense systems and there have been reports that Patriot/THAAD are prone to malfunctions and mostly duds. I'm sure India would rather rely on indigenously developed defense systems or go with Israeli options.

Javelin maybe the only probable option after the cancellation of Spike deal but MoD is pushing to induct Nag ATGM after it has been proved successful in it's recent tests

https://qz.com/1240887/the-patriot-...and-misses-but-raytheon-still-makes-billions/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1138790
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...5-jets-over-repair-cost-dispute-idUSKBN1HI304
https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/indias-new-anti-tank-guided-missile-destroys-2-tanks-in-test/

Modi went with Rafales due to Ambanis not for love of Rafales. Had LM partnered with Ambanis, F-16s would have been selected.
 
Modi went with Rafales due to Ambanis not for love of Rafales. Had LM partnered with Ambanis, F-16s would have been selected.
But these 36 Rafales aren't being manufactured in India, nor they aren't procuring any subsystems from Reliance. If your statement of Modi going with the US actually happens, that would be the end of Rafales and so is your logic regarding Rafale-Reliance drama
 
Actually this is a very clever move. Now, most of the Indo-Russian deals that are in progress would be cancelled and replaced with Indo-US deals.

FGFA deal would with replaced with F-35

S-400 with Patriot/THAAD

MIG-29 with F-18

Kornet with Javelin etc...

Agreed. India is in US camp at full. Its a matter of time India start signing these massive deals for US.
 
But these 36 Rafales aren't being manufactured in India, nor they aren't procuring any subsystems from Reliance. If your statement of Modi going with the US actually happens, that would be the end of Rafales and so is your logic regarding Rafale-Reliance drama

That is the whole point. France does not need to transfer any technology to India. The 30% offsets would also be just on paper through a front company called DRAL.

France won, Ambanis & Modi won. India lost.
 
That is the whole point. France does not need to transfer any technology to India. The 30% offsets would also be just on paper through a front company called DRAL.

France won, Ambanis & Modi won. India lost.
So you're saying the 30% offset funds is sucked in by DRAL and opposition would be idle on that! I guess you are aware of the fact the MMRCA has been a huge saga during Congress's regime and UPA is currently trying to find any opportunity to screw NDA as the elections are only an year away.
 
So you're saying the 30% offset funds is sucked in by DRAL and opposition would be idle on that! I guess you are aware of the fact the MMRCA has been a huge saga during Congress's regime and UPA is currently trying to find any opportunity to screw NDA as the elections are only an year away.

Didn't BJP play politics with Bofors?
 
Didn't BJP play politics with Bofors?
That's the whole point. BJP is well aware that the reason UPA lost in most of the states and is represented with very few members in the center is primarily due to it's scams and they're way too much into minority appeasement and I'm sure BJP wouldn't wanna be tainted as a scam ridden party like congress if they want to win in 2019
 
That's the whole point. BJP is well aware that the reason UPA lost in most of the states and is represented with very few members in the center is primarily due to it's scams and they're way too much into minority appeasement and I'm sure BJP wouldn't wanna be tainted as a scam ridden party like congress if they want to win in 2019

Corruption by Congress is direct through use of middlemen while BJP indulges in corruption through crony capitalism. Both are equally corrupt. I am not interested in the tu tu mai mai politics of these parties.
 

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