India overtakes China in Times’ World University Rankings

[Cheepek]

With 91 institutions, India is now the fourth most-represented nation in the Times Higher Education’s 2024 edition of World University Rankings, overtaking China that saw 86 of its institutions in the coveted list.

Indian Institute of Science (IISc) topped the list of 201–250 bands, followed by Anna University, Jamia Millia Islamia, Mahatma Gandhi University, and Shoolini University of Biotechnology and Management Sciences in the 501–600 band.


Among the Indian Institute of Technologies (IITs), IIT Guwahati got its place in the 601–800 band along with IIT Dhanbad and IIT Patna.

The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2024 include 1,904 universities across 108 countries and regions. This year’s ranking analysed more than 134 million citations across 16.5 million research publications and included survey responses from 68,402 scholars globally.

Times said the US is the most-represented country overall, with 169 institutions, and also the most-represented in the top 200 (56). The University of Oxford tops the ranking for the eighth year in a row, but others in the top five have seen shifts in their ranks. Stanford University moves up to second place, pushing Harvard University down to fourth.

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) climbed up two places to third this year. The University of Cambridge slips to fifth place, after being in joint third place last year.

Interestingly, the majority of the institutions joining the ranking for the first time this year are in Asia.


Times said the performance indicators are grouped into five areas, although the names of these have been tweaked: Teaching (the learning environment); Research environment (volume, income and reputation); Research quality (citation impact, research strength, research excellence and research influence); International outlook (staff, students and research); and Industry (income and patents).

India overtakes China in Times’ World University Rankings

Among the Indian Institute of Technologies (IITs), IIT Guwahati got its place in the 601–800 band along with IIT Dhanbad and IIT Patna.

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[Skull and Bones]

IITs doesn’t qualify as traditional university in western standard, it’s a technical institute, hence its ranking will always be lower.

 

[beijingwalker]

Many top Chinese universities boycott this rankings, as for Indian schools, not in the same league even by western standard

No Indian university in Times World Rankings' top 200 universities; check list here

Times World Rankings: Even some of the most sought-after universities in India, including University of Delhi, Jawaharlal Nehru University, IITs, BITS Pilani, Symbiosis, Christ University, Annamalai, etc. were all ranked beyond the 500 band.

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[VkdIndian]

With 91 institutions, India is now the fourth most-represented nation in the Times Higher Education’s 2024 edition of World University Rankings, overtaking China that saw 86 of its institutions in the coveted list.

Completely false data and incorrect. All this is being done at the behest of USA.

Indian education system is bad. HaaanWarrior and BeijingCrawler will post the pictures of Indian colleges, where mass scale copying is going on as a proof. Just wait.

Only China and Papa Xi can produce decent universities.

 

[beijingwalker]

Many top Chinese universities boycott this rankings, as for Indian schools, not in the same league even by western standard

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[beijingwalker]

Only China and Papa Xi can produce decent universities.

Then you can compare to Hong kong first, a city of 6 million people

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No Indian university in Times World Rankings' top 200 universities; check list here

Times World Rankings: Even some of the most sought-after universities in India, including University of Delhi, Jawaharlal Nehru University, IITs, BITS Pilani, Symbiosis, Christ University, Annamalai, etc. were all ranked beyond the 500 band.

www.businesstoday.in

The Chinese mainland now has two universities in the top 20, seven in the top 100. Hong kong also has 4 universities made into top 100

 

[huanghong]

Completely false data and incorrect. All this is being done at the behest of USA.

Indian education system is bad. HaaanWarrior and BeijingCrawler will post the pictures of Indian colleges, where mass scale copying is going on as a proof. Just wait.

Only China and Papa Xi can produce decent universities.

Indeed you have the right idea. According to this ranking, only one university in India ranks between 201 and 250.
In this ranking, Tsinghua University and Peking University have both moved up some places, ranking 12th and 14th respectively.
China now has 13 universities in the top 200. In other words, there are 13 Chinese universities in the top of India's best rankings.
This proves your point that the education system in India is terrible.
The number of Chinese institutions in the top 400 world universities has doubled from 15 in 2021 to 30 this year.
This proves another of your valid points,
China and Xi Jinping do continue to build decent universities.

 

[beijingwalker]

India overtaking China on something reports must be flooding Indian media every day. this nation really badly needs some pat on its own back.

 

[Hero786]

Completely false data and incorrect. All this is being done at the behest of USA.

Indian education system is bad. HaaanWarrior and BeijingCrawler will post the pictures of Indian colleges, where mass scale copying is going on as a proof. Just wait.

Only China and Papa Xi can produce decent universities.

If Universities in India are better than Chinese, then question is why Indian students are in China, instead Chinese students in India?

 

[TriptiD]

With 91 institutions, India is now the fourth most-represented nation in the Times Higher Education’s 2024 edition of World University Rankings, overtaking China that saw 86 of its institutions in the coveted list.

Indian Institute of Science (IISc) topped the list of 201–250 bands, followed by Anna University, Jamia Millia Islamia, Mahatma Gandhi University, and Shoolini University of Biotechnology and Management Sciences in the 501–600 band.


Among the Indian Institute of Technologies (IITs), IIT Guwahati got its place in the 601–800 band along with IIT Dhanbad and IIT Patna.

The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2024 include 1,904 universities across 108 countries and regions. This year’s ranking analysed more than 134 million citations across 16.5 million research publications and included survey responses from 68,402 scholars globally.

Times said the US is the most-represented country overall, with 169 institutions, and also the most-represented in the top 200 (56). The University of Oxford tops the ranking for the eighth year in a row, but others in the top five have seen shifts in their ranks. Stanford University moves up to second place, pushing Harvard University down to fourth.

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) climbed up two places to third this year. The University of Cambridge slips to fifth place, after being in joint third place last year.

Interestingly, the majority of the institutions joining the ranking for the first time this year are in Asia.


Times said the performance indicators are grouped into five areas, although the names of these have been tweaked: Teaching (the learning environment); Research environment (volume, income and reputation); Research quality (citation impact, research strength, research excellence and research influence); International outlook (staff, students and research); and Industry (income and patents).

India overtakes China in Times’ World University Rankings

Among the Indian Institute of Technologies (IITs), IIT Guwahati got its place in the 601–800 band along with IIT Dhanbad and IIT Patna.

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This list is nonsense. Anna University is definitely not the second best university in India after IISc. And everyone knows that the IITs at Guwahati, Dhanbad and Patna are way below those at Delhi, Kanpur, Kharagpur, Bombay and Madras. The ones at Dhanbad and Patna are not even among the top 10 IITs.

PS : I had to google Shoolini University. It is probably not in the top 500 in India, forget about the world.

If Universities in India are better than Chinese, then question is why Indian students are in China, instead Chinese students in India?

There may be a handful of Indian students in China because of their desire to get familiar with Chinese culture for various reasons. American, Japanese, British and European students also study in India. That doesn't mean Indian universities are better than those in these countries.

 

[VkdIndian]

If Universities in India are better than Chinese, then question is why Indian students are in China, instead Chinese students in India?

Capacity. We don’t have adequate capacity to educate all those seeking higher education.
Few professional courses in India are very expensive. Medical degree is one major field which is cheaper and easier to get from abroad than India. Hence, capacity as well as the cost plays a role in this.

 

[Hero786]

There may be a handful of Indian students in China because of their desire to get familiar with Chinese culture for various reasons. American, Japanese, British and European students also study in India. That doesn't mean Indian universities are better than those in these countries.

Not due to culture but due to better education system and lower fees than EU, US.

Western students not prefer Chinese universities as they have good quality of educations in their own countries like US, UK and others.

Majority of foreigner students in China are Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
Majority of students go there for MBBS, others for Engineering, IT.

None of South Asian country have good education system

 

[beijingwalker]

Not due to culture but due to better education system and lower fees than EU, US.

Western students not prefer Chinese universities as they have good quality of educations in their own countries like US, UK and others.

Majority of foreigner students in China are Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
Majority of students go there for MBBS, others for Engineering, IT.

None of South Asian country have good education system

Statistical report on international students in China for 2018 - Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China

en.moe.gov.cn

 

[Cheepek]

Majority of foreigner students in China are Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

10,000 Indians in China, ~500k foreign students in total.
Sure a majority

 

[VkdIndian]

Although this thread shows Indian education in good light, I don’t believe in such rankings.
Most of these are biased or not adequately researched. There can be many factors that can’t be considered while giving such rankings.
We have a lot of deficiencies in higher as well as basic education.
Condition of most government schools is pathetic in the most populous states. South is a little better but there is no reason for cheer till we can provide decent opportunities to each child.