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I don't know is this topic is already going on or not but here i found this-:woot:
ASIAN DEFENCE: Bangladesh

The Indian Air Force is offering the Bangladesh Biman Bahini (Bangladesh air force) the use of its facilities to modernise and maintain fighter aircraft and helicopters, a senior defence source told. In reaching out to Dhaka with an offer to help upgrade its air fleet, New Delhi is stepping into an area in which Bangladesh has been dependent mainly on China and, to a limited extent, on Pakistan, Russia and the US.

Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik, currently in Dhaka on a week’s visit that began on Saturday, offered the use of Indian Air Force facilities in meetings with the chief of the Bangladesh Biman Bahini, Air Marshal S.M. Ziaur Rehman. The IAF is understood to have offered to liaise with defence public sector company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Bangalore, to help modernise Bangladesh’s MiG-29 aircraft and Mi-17 helicopters. The IAF flies and has upgraded the two aircraft for its own fleet. HAL is engaged in upgrading India’s own MiG-29s.

This is the first visit by an Indian Air Force chief to Bangladesh in more than five years. The last such visit was in 2004. But the Bangla air chief was here in April 2009. Military-to-military relations with Bangladesh have been resuscitated since the visit by the Bangladesh army chief in February 2008. An IAF source pointed out that while Bangladesh had mostly Chinese and some American-origin aircraft, it also had a squadron of MiG-29aircraft.

Nearly 70 per cent of Bangladesh’s flying fleet is aged, with the fighter aircraft being 20 years old or even more than that. Bangladesh has taken help from China and Pakistan for its A-5 and A-7 Chinese-origin aircraft.But the Indian Air Force has said that the facilities for its Mi-17 helicopters (the IAF flies the transport helicopter in large numbers), the MiG-29 and the Antonov 32 could be spared for Bangladesh’s limited air force. Bangladesh flies three AN 32s and 14 Mi-17s.

In Dhaka, Air Chief Marshal Naik has met President Zillur Rahman and was scheduled to meet Sheikh Hasina on Wednesday. He has also met the three chiefs of the armed forces. “The main focus of the visit will be on improving bilateral relations, promoting defence ties, outlining further areas of defence co-operation between the two countries and resolving pending issues through dialogue and understanding,” the air force source said.
 
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BullCrap... Why Indians are so eager to upgrade our fleets...
If we need we will ask.. until then .. thanks a lot. You take care of your own junk fleet....
 
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BullCrap... Why Indians are so eager to upgrade our fleets...
If we need we will ask.. until then .. thanks a lot. You take care of your own junk fleet....

India offered the service. The decision lies on BD policy makers.
Calling Mig-29 and MI-17 junk is way too immaturte.
 
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BullCrap... Why Indians are so eager to upgrade our fleets...
If we need we will ask.. until then .. thanks a lot. You take care of your own junk fleet....

Increase relations Raise trust

Business to Indian companies.

Possibly the need for upgrades came up in talks between the IAF and BAF,
We can only offer, IT is of course up to Bangladesh to make its own decisions.

I dont understand why you need to be so defensive, on the issue.

India is already upgrading its fleet of Mig-29's, If BAF chooses to do the same the whole process becomes cheaper and more cost effective.

As for the Mi-17, India has facilitates to upgrade the helicopter. Simply providing the Bangladesh the option to make use of them.

India has been accused of being a passive player when it comes to foreign policy for years, Finally it is taking a more active role in the region.
 
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BullCrap... Why Indians are so eager to upgrade our fleets...
If we need we will ask.. until then .. thanks a lot. You take care of your own junk fleet....

well for your sake lets hope that the BD air force and the govt..refuse the offer...I am sure the GoI would understand that Bangladesh wants to stay hostile for all times to come...and would follow suit...it's better if things simplify...and it's a better feeling fighting an enemy that refused to shake your hand whence it was offered...
even the gross weight of a junk fleet can prove deadly if it happens to fall on top of some one with an immovable ego...
 
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Increase relations

Business to Indian companies.

Possibly the need for upgrades came up in talks between the IAF and BAF,
We can only offer, IT is of course up to Bangladesh to make its own decisions.

I dont understand why you need to be so defensive, on the issue.

this gentleman you quoted makes use of this forum as a personal sandbag to vent out his angst against India...talking in terms of commerce and mutual benefit would not be well taken by him...
 
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well for your sake lets hope that the BD air force and the govt..refuse the offer...I am sure the GoI would understand that Bangladesh wants to stay hostile for all times to come...and would follow suit...it's better if things simplify...and it's a better feeling fighting an enemy that refused to shake your hand whence it was offered...
even the gross weight of a junk fleet can prove deadly if it happens to fall on top of some one with an immovable ego...

Its nothing to do with hostility towards India but its all about strategic point of view. India is not a complementary country for us rather a competing country even though your shear size is way bigger than us. You got to understand that.
 
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BullCrap... Why Indians are so eager to upgrade our fleets...
If we need we will ask.. until then .. thanks a lot. You take care of your own junk fleet....

Forgive him. He spoke of being molested by a RAW agent some time ago in another thread. His anger against India is understandable :coffee:
 
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this gentleman you quoted makes use of this forum as a personal sandbag to vent out his angst against India...talking in terms of commerce and mutual benefit would not be well taken by him...

Yes we want commerce, but we are breaking our heads, so that India opens itself up. Its not us the problem but India is. Only yesterday India refused all the visas of Dhaka Chambers of Commerce members who suppose to attend Tripura trade fare next week without showing any reason whatsoever. Hypchrate of its worse kind.
Today BSF crossed the border shoot one of BDR member and took him away.
 
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Indian brothers.

Why waste time?

This is the second thread with same subject as earlier thread mentioned in my post.

The impression that I get from Bangladeshi's here is that they are WWII era Germany who can easily defeat India which according to them is a WWII era France.

To reject such offeres from India they will come up with lies that Indian doctorine does not allow arms sale to BD or vice versa that BD doctorine does not allow Indian arms etc.

You ask them to prove their claims and they will come up with our doctorine is confidential and can't be share.

Now if the doctorine is confidential how come these members know about it is another question.

While the fact remains that there was a time when Indian defence equipment was sold/donated to BD and upgrading MiG-29 or Mi-17 should not be a problem.

India overhauls Omanese Jaguars, Malaysian Su-30's.

You take care of your own junk fleet....

For how many years BAF MiG-29's were stored without operations due to bad maintainance and corruption?

GB
 
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Its nothing to do with hostility towards India but its all about strategic point of view. India is not a complementary country for us rather a competing country even though your shear size is way bigger than us. You got to understand that.

Europeans work together despite being competitors why cant we ?

:cheers:

Yes we want commerce, but we are breaking our heads, so that India opens itself up. Its not us the problem but India is. Only yesterday India refused all the visas of Dhaka Chambers of Commerce members who suppose to attend Tripura trade fare next week without showing any reason whatsoever. Hypchrate of its worse kind.
Today BSF crossed the border shoot one of BDR member and took him away.

Really can i get a source to read on this,

Why would India do something like that after so many overtures during Hasina's visit.
 
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Really can i get a source to read on this,

Why would India do something like that after so many overtures during Hasina's visit.

Last time he told me that BD media does not cover such news so it is difficult to provide a link source.

God knows how come he knows these things then.

GB
 
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Yes we want commerce, but we are breaking our heads, so that India opens itself up. Its not us the problem but India is. Only yesterday India refused all the visas of Dhaka Chambers of Commerce members who suppose to attend Tripura trade fare next week without showing any reason whatsoever. Hypchrate of its worse kind.
Today BSF crossed the border shoot one of BDR member and took him away.



Is this the news you are talking about:


BDR men intrude into Indian territory; one detained

BSF jawans fired in the air and detained a BDR personnel who along with two others tried to intrude into the Indian territory in Meghalaya this morning.

"Three Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) personnel tried entering the Indian territory at Muktapur near Dawki. The BSF troopers first warned them and later had to fire one round in the air," BSF DIG Ravi Gandhi told PTI.

He said one of them was caught by the BSF and "he will be handed over to the Bangladesh authorities during a flag meeting later in the day".

There was, however, no casualty in the firing, the DIG added.

http://www.ptinews.com/news/499919_BDR-men-intrude-into-Indian-territory--one-detained
 
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Is this the news you are talking about:


BDR men intrude into Indian territory; one detained

BSF jawans fired in the air and detained a BDR personnel who along with two others tried to intrude into the Indian territory in Meghalaya this morning.

"Three Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) personnel tried entering the Indian territory at Muktapur near Dawki. The BSF troopers first warned them and later had to fire one round in the air," BSF DIG Ravi Gandhi told PTI.

He said one of them was caught by the BSF and "he will be handed over to the Bangladesh authorities during a flag meeting later in the day".

There was, however, no casualty in the firing, the DIG added.

fullstory

:what: this confuses me greatly.

Why were there only 3 BDR soldiers, And why would they not stop and then speak with the BSF.

why would BDR try to intrude into Indian territory.

Or even going by Bangladesh side of story why would BSF go into Bangladesh and then go after BDR soldiers.

Nothing makes any sense, I cant find a motivation.

And since no one was shot i can only assume there was no confrontation. so why BSF go after BDR and why BDR did not just stay and communicate.

:what:
 
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